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Clinton and DNC Paid For Research That Led To Russian Dossier

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posted on Oct, 25 2017 @ 09:49 AM
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From the horses mouth who is directly involved in this investigation.


“I want to know whether the nation’s premier law enforcement agency relied on a document that looks like the National Enquirer prepared it. … And if they relied upon an unsourced, un-vetted document to launch a really important investigation … then I think our country is big enough to handle that truth.”



“Usually people plead the Fifth when they think the answer’s going to get them in trouble,” he said.


Gowdy really wants to know if the dossier info was used for warrants any warrants. He states the FBI is stonewalling on the info. He then goes on to say the Trump Dossier is completely false from information based off sworn testimony yesterday from a person directly involved in the Dossier. 3:39 mark they talk directly about the Dossier.


I believe Trey Gowdy over anyone on ATS....just saying.

This interview was from this morning BTW...




edit on 25-10-2017 by GuidedKill because: (no reason given)

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posted on Oct, 25 2017 @ 09:50 AM
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a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

Dont even know where to start with you just about everything you said is false. The house voted to fund groups against ISIL as partof the anti terrorism campaign. The decision to take Crimea had nothing to do with american imperialism and everything to with Putin taking advantage of a conflict he created in Ukraine to aquire land and prevent Ukraine from joining the EU.



posted on Oct, 25 2017 @ 09:51 AM
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a reply to: face23785

What I glean from the op is Nunes started this. I'm sure at the orders of his boss. Trump promised to lock her up. Oh goody, more of my tax money spent for the whims of the swamp creatures. And they get a raise for being swamp creatures.



posted on Oct, 25 2017 @ 09:54 AM
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a reply to: GuidedKill

Hes grandstanding he has no way ofknowing what the FBI used in their assessments,and secondit wasnt their decision to make only twopeople can attain a FISA warrant the president and the AG. So the question you need to ask is what did they show the court?



posted on Oct, 25 2017 @ 09:58 AM
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originally posted by: dragonridr
a reply to: GuidedKill

Hes grandstanding he has no way ofknowing what the FBI used in their assessments,and secondit wasnt their decision to make only twopeople can attain a FISA warrant the president and the AG. So the question you need to ask is what did they show the court?


That's the question he is asking!! Did the FBI or anyone use this dossier as probable cause for a warrant. He never states that as fact but a question to the DOJ, FBI, Etc.

...Maybe you should have listened to the whole video before you spewed your political bias.



posted on Oct, 25 2017 @ 10:12 AM
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originally posted by: GuidedKill


From the horses mouth who is directly involved in this investigation.


“I want to know whether the nation’s premier law enforcement agency relied on a document that looks like the National Enquirer prepared it. … And if they relied upon an unsourced, un-vetted document to launch a really important investigation … then I think our country is big enough to handle that truth.”



“Usually people plead the Fifth when they think the answer’s going to get them in trouble,” he said.


Gowdy really wants to know if the dossier info was used for warrants any warrants. He states the FBI is stonewalling on the info. He then goes on to say the Trump Dossier is completely false from information based off sworn testimony yesterday from a person directly involved in the Dossier. 3:39 mark they talk directly about the Dossier.


I believe Trey Gowdy over anyone on ATS....just saying.

This interview was from this morning BTW...





This. And everyone who keeps calling it "Trump's DOJ" doesn't understand how these large organizations work. Changing the AG doesn't change the rest of the organization. Most of Justice right now is still Obama or Bush people. They're not on board with Trump's agenda. That takes a while to change.



posted on Oct, 25 2017 @ 10:13 AM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: Tempter

Assuming what is true, that the DNC and Clinton Campaign paid for opposition research?

Seems normal to me.

Did they pay foreign powers for it? Promise them favors? Were they trying to, I don't know, built a luxury hotel in the capital of their country?



What Don Jr. did wasn't so bad now too, I'm sure.




posted on Oct, 25 2017 @ 10:14 AM
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originally posted by: Tempter

originally posted by: DanteGaland
So...Clinton and the DNC hired an American company to continue oppiosition research that a REPUBLICAN DONOR started...

And that American company (Fusion GPS) hired a retired intelligence officer ...

I fail to see the issue.


Really? They hired a guy to create a fake dossier (slander) and then created a fake narrative of Russian Collusion.

You don't see a problem with trying to trash someone with a fake report they paid for in order to subvert a dually-elected President?


That was also the basis for unmasking, a federal investigation, and the issuing of FISA warrants.



posted on Oct, 25 2017 @ 10:17 AM
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We already knew that Hillary Clinton and the DNC paid for the dossier - it just takes liberals seeing it in left-wing news outlets to finally get it. The same is true of Fusion GPS's ties to the Russian govt. We know that is true, but it won't be to some until it's on CNN or in WaPo, etc.
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posted on Oct, 25 2017 @ 10:23 AM
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originally posted by: UKTruth
We already knew that Hillary Clinton and the DNC paid for the dossier - it just takes liberals seeing it in left-wing news outlets to finally get it. The same is true of Fusion GPS's ties to the Russian govt. We know that is true, but it won't be to some until it's on CNN or in WaPo, etc.


Well, maybe you can help one of those alleged liberals understand your claim here: what are the "ties" between Fusion GPS and the government of Russia again?

The Democrats hired Fusion GPS in 2012 to do opposition research on Mitt Romney too ... was that also connected to the Russians? LOL.

What really sticks in the craw of right-wingers is that Fusion GPS help bust the fraudulent Planned Parenthood videos which resulted in Daleiden and his little accomplice facing multiple felonies in CA.

SSDD.



posted on Oct, 25 2017 @ 10:25 AM
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originally posted by: GuidedKill

originally posted by: dragonridr
a reply to: GuidedKill

Hes grandstanding he has no way ofknowing what the FBI used in their assessments,and secondit wasnt their decision to make only twopeople can attain a FISA warrant the president and the AG. So the question you need to ask is what did they show the court?


That's the question he is asking!! Did the FBI or anyone use this dossier as probable cause for a warrant. He never states that as fact but a question to the DOJ, FBI, Etc.

...Maybe you should have listened to the whole video before you spewed your political bias.


He can get access to the FBI report so he can easily see what intel they used on their assessment. But thats not what hes looking for he wants to know what the Obama admin used to obtain a FISA warrant. Which means he has to go through the DOJ to see what info the Fisa court was shown. By the way the DOJ has rules dispite who is in charge and he knows this. To see what information was used to show the judge he can read their decision if it tells you or talk to who ever requested the warrant. Going through the FBI is just grandstanding.



posted on Oct, 25 2017 @ 10:25 AM
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a reply to: Gryphon66




I don't care a wit for Obama or the Obama Administration on it's own merits, just as I don't give a hoot about the Clintons.

Wow

Award for most outstanding work in the area of fiction?
I have seen you post woppers before, but that is incredible!



posted on Oct, 25 2017 @ 10:28 AM
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originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: Gryphon66




I don't care a wit for Obama or the Obama Administration on it's own merits, just as I don't give a hoot about the Clintons.

Wow

Award for most outstanding work in the area of fiction?
I have seen you post woppers before, but that is incredible!


Yeah, I'm sure you have ... you tell a lot of those whoppers yourself.

It's always good to hear from obsessed fans ... but unless you have evidence of my praising the Obama Administration or Obama himself ... save it for another time when another installment of your opinion about me is in someway relevant to the conversation, K?



posted on Oct, 25 2017 @ 10:33 AM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: UKTruth
We already knew that Hillary Clinton and the DNC paid for the dossier - it just takes liberals seeing it in left-wing news outlets to finally get it. The same is true of Fusion GPS's ties to the Russian govt. We know that is true, but it won't be to some until it's on CNN or in WaPo, etc.


Well, maybe you can help one of those alleged liberals understand your claim here: what are the "ties" between Fusion GPS and the government of Russia again?

The Democrats hired Fusion GPS in 2012 to do opposition research on Mitt Romney too ... was that also connected to the Russians? LOL.

What really sticks in the craw of right-wingers is that Fusion GPS help bust the fraudulent Planned Parenthood videos which resulted in Dathen sleiden and his little accomplice facing multiple felonies in CA.

SSDD.


Did the dems pay fusion GPS in 2012 which then paid foreign agents and used Kremlin connected sources to get dirt on Romney?

Did they then scream about how Romney was in cahoots with russians, ignoring the hypocrisy that that is exactly what they were doing?

Did they then use that paid info to possibly obtain fisa warrants against Romney?

Oh, so I guess this is completely different.



posted on Oct, 25 2017 @ 10:33 AM
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posted on Oct, 25 2017 @ 10:34 AM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: UKTruth
We already knew that Hillary Clinton and the DNC paid for the dossier - it just takes liberals seeing it in left-wing news outlets to finally get it. The same is true of Fusion GPS's ties to the Russian govt. We know that is true, but it won't be to some until it's on CNN or in WaPo, etc.


Well, maybe you can help one of those alleged liberals understand your claim here: what are the "ties" between Fusion GPS and the government of Russia again?

The Democrats hired Fusion GPS in 2012 to do opposition research on Mitt Romney too ... was that also connected to the Russians? LOL.

What really sticks in the craw of right-wingers is that Fusion GPS help bust the fraudulent Planned Parenthood videos which resulted in Daleiden and his little accomplice facing multiple felonies in CA.

SSDD.


Strawman again please stop and come back when your ready to have a debate instead of troll everyone.



posted on Oct, 25 2017 @ 10:35 AM
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originally posted by: dragonridr

originally posted by: GuidedKill

originally posted by: dragonridr
a reply to: GuidedKill

Hes grandstanding he has no way ofknowing what the FBI used in their assessments,and secondit wasnt their decision to make only twopeople can attain a FISA warrant the president and the AG. So the question you need to ask is what did they show the court?


That's the question he is asking!! Did the FBI or anyone use this dossier as probable cause for a warrant. He never states that as fact but a question to the DOJ, FBI, Etc.

...Maybe you should have listened to the whole video before you spewed your political bias.


He can get access to the FBI report so he can easily see what intel they used on their assessment. But thats not what hes looking for he wants to know what the Obama admin used to obtain a FISA warrant. Which means he has to go through the DOJ to see what info the Fisa court was shown. By the way the DOJ has rules dispite who is in charge and he knows this. To see what information was used to show the judge he can read their decision if it tells you or talk to who ever requested the warrant. Going through the FBI is just grandstanding.


Did you listen to the video at all?? That's exactly what Trey Gowdy says, that he has requested this info TWICE from the FBI and they have not given over the info yet. Gowdy clearly states in the interview that there is no reason why they should have to ask more than once from this info from the FBI. He clearly states the FBI is stonewalling on these requests which should have been immediately turned over upon request.

Sheesh man watch the video before you comment on it.






posted on Oct, 25 2017 @ 10:35 AM
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originally posted by: Garmanarnar

originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: Grambler

Well, IF I were doing that I would tell you my preference, but like most of the fake assertions you're making, I'm not.

I don't care a wit for Obama or the Obama Administration on it's own merits, just as I don't give a hoot about the Clintons.

I care about the truth being valued on ATS ... and in these matters, folks mangle the truth at every opportunity, as you've done here.



So if Hillary's camp paid foreign agents for this dossier, and it was used for for a warrants, you admit this is a terrible abuse?


You sound upset MI5 uncovered trumps collusion.


And what Collusion was that? C'mon now, give me your verified facts of Trump's collusion.



posted on Oct, 25 2017 @ 10:36 AM
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originally posted by: dragonridr

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: UKTruth
We already knew that Hillary Clinton and the DNC paid for the dossier - it just takes liberals seeing it in left-wing news outlets to finally get it. The same is true of Fusion GPS's ties to the Russian govt. We know that is true, but it won't be to some until it's on CNN or in WaPo, etc.


Well, maybe you can help one of those alleged liberals understand your claim here: what are the "ties" between Fusion GPS and the government of Russia again?

The Democrats hired Fusion GPS in 2012 to do opposition research on Mitt Romney too ... was that also connected to the Russians? LOL.

What really sticks in the craw of right-wingers is that Fusion GPS help bust the fraudulent Planned Parenthood videos which resulted in Daleiden and his little accomplice facing multiple felonies in CA.

SSDD.


Strawman again please stop and come back when your ready to have a debate instead of troll everyone.


Strawman fallacy, really? LOL. Where, how, who's argument did I alter?

Are you saying that the Democrats haven't used Fusion GPS for opposition research previously?

The only one trolling by posting nonsense is you Dragon. I'm disappointed; you usually have more integrity than that at least.



posted on Oct, 25 2017 @ 10:36 AM
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a reply to: the2ofusr1

If and this is a big if i might add that they can show the FBI made payments to Fusion GPS that is illegal.




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