originally posted by: Bluntone22
The family is planning a trip to Yellowstone and the Grand Canyon for next summer. We usually use our smartphones for pictures but they are very
limited for scenery shots.
Point and shoots just don't cut it either.
I want to be able to use a telescopic lense to reach out and touch someone.
Obviously this will be used for many years for family portrait type shots and future vacations.
I'm not looking to publish in national geographic so I don't want to spend $5k.
Anybody have some experience with cameras in the $500-$800 dollar range?
I have found a few kits online like a canon EOS 1200D and Nikon D3400 in that price range.
I have bought cameras in the past, mostly the point and shoot types with hundreds of functions and end up using about six of them so all the bells and
whistles are a waste for me.
Any thoughts ATS?
First you should know what you plan on shooting, landscapes, people, bugs, plants, or wildlife. People usually want to shoot whatever it is that is in
front of them, I know I do. =)
My first digital camera was a Nikon 990 back in around 1999, I was a Canon 35mm user before that though, I held no real allegiance to Canon, although,
they are the ones that broke the $1,000 DSLR price so 'normal' people could afford a good digital camera. So, I went with Canon again and I don't have
any regrets. I will say that now days almost any brand will give very good results, the thing is to know what lens to get, lenses can cost quite a bit
if you get serious.
I mainly shoot wildlife, I get exercise and enjoy being out looking for surprises, I'm in Texas so we don't get some of the cooler critters that those
up north might. To shoot wildlife and if one is fairly serious it takes a good lens, if you have a fairly decent camera and put a good lens on you can
get some really excellent results.
My first DSLR Canon was a 450D (XSi), it cost me around $1,000 and I bought a Canon 100-400mm L zoom lens that sold new for about $1,600. or so, that
gave me the reach to shoot birds AND stuff that was far and near. A zoom lens is what I would definitely recommend for your first lens, you can also
buy a Canon wide-angle zoom for under $100. too that will do you a lot of good. I had the Canon 18-55mm kit lens, I have had several of them in the
past years and I actually liked them so much that I still use that same lens although the newest version. Some kit lenses are really crap, some are
For instance, a Canon 50mm f/1.8 kit lens known for its quality even though they are a cheap-o lens. Perfect for starting out.
Personally, I would go for the Canon 55-250mm zoom lens to go with that 50mm, this is a really good quality kit lens that can get some good shots.
Of course, later on as you get a good feel for your equipment you will read about and hear about other lenses and cameras, but then you will have more
knowledge about DSLR's and you won't have to ask, you can choose what you feel is best for you. Almost ALL photographers go through this, its just a
part of growing.
You can buy used equipment on Craigslist, or on a camera forum, I do both, I rarely buy new. The reason is that some stuff costs more than the average
person wants to spend.
My first camera the 450D I had the 55-250mm lens and I used that almost exclusively, then I realized that it wasn't enough reach and I could not get
the wildlife that I was after the way I had pictured. New they cost a total of $1,150 or so, not including tax. That was then though...
Now you can buy that same camera (not that I would) for $250. and the lens for $100.-$150., some people try to sell that lens for more than it is
worth, the market is flooded with 'em.
So for cheap you could go that route.
Personally, (see the link below) I'd go to a forum and join so you can see what others use and do with their equipment, looking at their EXIF (camera
information) you will be able to tell what camera they used for that shot, what lens, what settings they used, etc. It's a very good way to learn,
then as you get more familiar with things in general you can go and seek out places like YouTube and any other places online that will further your
As what was said earlier the Canon T2i on up with get you very good results, the T2i allowed me to get some really good results on a budget. I paired
that with my Canon 100-400mm zoom lens and got what I was after finally, close-us of birds.
There's a lot more to it than that though, the T2i is not as fast with its 4 frames per second, so I went higher and higher until I go cameras that
would. The ones I have now are 10 frames per second which is not the fastest, but it works well enough for me. (These camera are in the thousands
Look over this forum and see if you like it, it used to be a Canon only forum but a couple of years ago they are now any brand. This is a really good
forum and you can find out anything that you need. You will also be able to BUY used stuff that you can afford from someone that others trust. They
have a way to see all of the stuff they have bought/sold, plus you can see how long they have been an (active) member. I trust this place as much or
more than any other place including e-Bay, Craigslist, etc.
Here's some that I have or have had, I have also bought and sold used cameras for fun, so the lest below is only a portion of the ones that I had, but
these are the ones that I use right now.
To show you how much you can save buying used, I bought a Canon 1DmkIV that sold new for $5,000. for $3,600. used, it didn't have hardly any clicks on
I bought a Canon 5DmkII that sold for $3,600. new and got it used (hardly any clicks) for $1,800.
The lens I bought for the Canon 1dmkIV cost $10,000. new and I got it used for $6,800., it was owned by a pilot that liked to take shots of big jets
and he rarely if ever used it, so I got a deal.
I doubt that you will want to jump in like this, but by this time I knew what I wanted, so I splurged.
For $2,000. I replaced my 1DmkIV with the Canon 7DmkII, it does essentially the same, and the 7DmkII's way lighter, andhas newer technology.
Canon EOS 7D Mark II
Canon EOS 5D Mark II
Canon EOS 1D Mark IV
Canon EOS Rebel XS / EOS 1000D / Kiss F
Canon EOS Digital Rebel XTi / EOS 400D / Kiss Digital X
Canon EOS Digital Rebel XSi / EOS 450D / Kiss X2
Canon EOS 550D / EOS Rebel T2i / EOS Kiss X4
Canon EF 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L IS II USM
Samyang 14mm f/2.8 ED AS IF UMC
Tamron SP 150-600mm F/5-6.3 Di VC USD
Canon EF 100mm f/2.8 Macro USM
Canon EF 400mm f/2.8L IS USM
Canon EF 28-105mm f/4-5.6 USM
Canon EF 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L IS USM
Canon EF 50mm f/1.8
Canon EF-S 55-250mm f/4-5.6 IS
Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6
Canon Speedlite 430EX II
Here's some links that should be of some help...
This is a really cool place, it allows you to compare side-by-side two cameras. If you want to compare a Canon 7Dmkii alongside of a Canon T6i it will
show all you need to know. (It's down right now so I don't know what that means, hopefully that is only temporary)
Use this to compare the sizes of the cameras, it may not sound like it, but it can be really helpful...
Here's another comparison site...