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Great Speech on Where we are as a Nation and Where it's Headed

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posted on Oct, 22 2017 @ 06:53 AM
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It kind of reminds me at the USAF recruiters office, "jump right in young man" and do your best serving our country.




posted on Oct, 22 2017 @ 07:21 AM
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Hillary got the popular vote, I think she can win if we recount the votes and take out all the Russian votes



posted on Oct, 22 2017 @ 07:24 AM
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Dont watch any videos that I dont know who it is
Could be a loon sitting inside Shady Rest Asylum for the Criminally Insane
Who is Chris Hedges and why the eff should I care?
(p.s., I dont)

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posted on Oct, 22 2017 @ 07:38 AM
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as to the core issue: Where we are as a Nation ... and Where it's Headed



completely absent is the Elephant-in-the-room.... which is the Westernized, Suit & Tie, Muslim Brotherhood in the Government --- where IT has absolutely no business being involved.....


As To Where The Nation Is Headed:

there is a silent Coup taking over this USA Constitutional Republic and replacing the present Civil Law system of the Western, Illuminated, Civilization with a Muslim Brotherhood world-view

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posted on Oct, 22 2017 @ 08:37 AM
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a reply to: St Udio




there is a silent Coup taking over this USA Constitutional Republic and replacing the present Civil Law system of the Western, Illuminated, Civilization with a Muslim Brotherhood world-view


Let's see, JFK got his whig pushed back, back in what..62-3? Your about 54 years too late with that obeservation


And it's not a Muslim Brotherhood world-view. It's a trans nationalist "let's get this money", because money can be turned into power, world view.



posted on Oct, 22 2017 @ 09:00 AM
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originally posted by: dfnj2015

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: mOjOm

I apologize for throwing shade on your video, but my criticism still applies. What little bones he throws to right and left mean very little in the direction of his overarching, anti-capitalist premise.

“This resistance must be accompanied by an alternative vision of a socialist, anti-capitalist society.”


Wealth inequality is at all time highs. What is your solution? Do nothing and let the status quo continue to drive the worker making the median wage deeper and deeper into a poverty wage? Every year the rich get richer. Money talks, all your "this is anti-capitalism" and "capitalism is sacred" is BS. Nobody is talking about getting rid of money from society. But having a little economic equality and justice would be nice rather than the billionaire extremism we suffer under now.


Why don’t you just do it instead of demanding others do it for you? Go start a big company and pay everyone massive wages, healthcare, etc.

But we all know the answer to that.



posted on Oct, 22 2017 @ 09:02 AM
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a reply to: LesMisanthrope

How many “big companies” have you started and built again?

Should we listen to your experience, or are you, like many here, whistling past a graveyard?



posted on Oct, 22 2017 @ 09:05 AM
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a reply to: mOjOm

I’ll bet you remember now why you start so few discussion threads.



posted on Oct, 22 2017 @ 09:05 AM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: LesMisanthrope

How many “big companies” have you started and built again?

Should we listen to your experience, or are you, like many here, whistling past a graveyard?


I have my own business, but either way, I’m not the one complaining.



posted on Oct, 22 2017 @ 09:11 AM
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originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: LesMisanthrope

How many “big companies” have you started and built again?

Should we listen to your experience, or are you, like many here, whistling past a graveyard?


I have my own business, but either way, I’m not the one complaining.


Perhaps you are not the one “complaining” but you are the one giving advice and claiming to speak on behalf of “what we all know” which suggests you know what you’re talking about. Do you? Have you built a business from nothing to profitability? How many people do you employ?
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posted on Oct, 22 2017 @ 09:17 AM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: LesMisanthrope

How many “big companies” have you started and built again?

Should we listen to your experience, or are you, like many here, whistling past a graveyard?


I have my own business, but either way, I’m not the one complaining.


Perhaps you are not the one “complaining” but you are the one giving advice which suggests you know what you’re talking about. Do you? Have you built a business from nothing to profitability? How many people do you employ?


The point is, people want the government to fix everything where they refuse to do it themselves. They walk by impoverished people everyday and likely do nothing. Why not hire the guy? Take him into your home? Give him healthcare?



posted on Oct, 22 2017 @ 09:23 AM
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originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: LesMisanthrope

How many “big companies” have you started and built again?

Should we listen to your experience, or are you, like many here, whistling past a graveyard?


I have my own business, but either way, I’m not the one complaining.


Perhaps you are not the one “complaining” but you are the one giving advice which suggests you know what you’re talking about. Do you? Have you built a business from nothing to profitability? How many people do you employ?


The point is, people want the government to fix everything where they refuse to do it themselves. They walk by impoverished people everyday and likely do nothing. Why not hire the guy? Take him into your home? Give him healthcare?


The point is you talk about theory and what you’ve heard. No one who has any any level of success in business “Wants the government to do everything.” Normal people don’t expect that. It’s BS political rhetoric that folks repeat ad nauseam. Do you really think this “reverse virtue signalling” you do fools anyone? You complain that people aren’t doing enough to help the underpriviledged because it suits your agenda, or at least, the agenda you mouth.

In reality, you are doing nothing more than I suggested ... you’re mumbling empty platitudes that have no basis in your personal experience. You are set against what you view as an opposing “narrative” when in reality, all you’re doing is arguing one side of the same argument you pretend to despise.

The OP’s video suggests exactly what you’re nominally calling for here by the way - PERSONAL action not relying on professional politicians to do so of any branding ... which you remember of course because you watched the video months ago.

Pfft.



posted on Oct, 22 2017 @ 09:29 AM
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a reply to: Gryphon66

You can’t help to make it personal, because I suspect you lack any other appropriate response.

If you want economic equality and other such nonsense, why don’t you give it? If you want good wages, healthcare, affordable housing, why won’t you do that? It’s because you don’t want to. The push for socialism is a lie in order to disguise the socialist’s propensity towards laziness and moral posturing.



posted on Oct, 22 2017 @ 06:47 PM
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originally posted by: Mandroid7
If you were honest, you would disclose this guys political agenda
before people spend an hour watching your lame video.

If you think like this guy, you need a new role model.

Horrible speech by a political drone.



It's rather important, whatever your leanings, to listen carefully the words and logic of those you don't agree with. They may say something you agree with. I doubt you agree 100% with anyone. If you listened to the entire lecture you would have heard Mr. Hedges blame Democtrats as well in the decline into fascism.

Just to label someone Red or Blue robs them (and you) of your individually. I doubt you agree 100% with anyone.

Don't make excuses for your short-attention span and your intellectually laziness.

THis applies to the comment above by JinMI as well.



posted on Oct, 22 2017 @ 07:23 PM
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a reply to: LesMisanthrope

But you're making assumptions on your own preconceived ideas, not by what is being said.

He's talking about the dangers of Corporate Fascism. Also known today as Neo Liberalism. Which has come to be after years of corrupt Capitalism or what he calls Casino Capitalism. What he says about it and his evidence for it is all around us for you to see for yourself. He's spot on in identifying a very real problem whether or not you want to admit it's there.

He also avoids coming out and stating that Socialism is the answer, but certainly anyone can see that he personally would agree that it should be the answer. But regardless of what he thinks the answer may be, or whether you agree with his solution, it does nothing to change the reality of the problem, which is very real.

Our current Neo Liberal form of Capitalism/Civil Government is made to empower Corporate Fascism with the Government as it's strong arm against all Democratic Principles, putting all power and wealth in the hands of a small group of Private Owners who've been engineering this for a long time. It's happening right now and you know it as well as I do. Private Corporate Power has bought the alliance of our Government for their own benefit.

Capitalism because of limitations on resources and growth has reached a point where almost all natural resources available have reached peak levels and are in decline. This makes the profits and growth of that system impossible at the past levels so in order to continue it must now cannibalize from within. This includes removing the restrictions which once protected living systems we depend upon, allowing predatory practices which are considered unethical or illegal, etc.

You seem to want to complain about what you assume might be the solution, but in doing so you're just ignoring the problem. Because that is what is being talked about here, the problem. If we can't even agree there is a problem what good is it to worry about what possible solutions there are??? You're stuck going in circles because you're hung up on discussing ideological theory rather than objectively looking at our reality.

This isn't a battle over Capitalism vs Socialism because the system we're actually using in the real world is neither one of those but some complex mashed together hybrid of various ideologies all wound together. Some of which are just plain illegal. So we need to get past arguing about ideology as if it represents reality and simply look at what we have and what to do about it.



posted on Oct, 22 2017 @ 07:34 PM
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originally posted by: mOjOm
Haven't made a thread of my own in a while but I felt this speech really drills home some insight into what has happened, what is happening and where it all is most likely going to lead. This is a speech given by Chris Hedges back in May of this year. Regardless of what you think about Chris personally what he says in this speech can be seen as true by anyone simply by comparing it with what we're all living through both yesterday and today.

It is certainly somewhat gloomy in it's delivery I'll admit that. But then that neither makes it untrue or unavoidable. He not only covers the current US election of Trump and his associated cabinet but the larger picture of Neo-Liberal Economic Policy happening within Government and the very real and possible future we're facing and how we got ourselves here.

It's a bit long in total, however even right from the start he wastes no time with words. So while a bit long it's only because so much needs to be said to grasp such a large picture. Everyone regardless of political lean can gain something from this I think and should give it a listen with an open unbiased position to grasp what I think is a very informative speech.

To cut right into it skip up to the 3:00 min mark and just let it play from there.

For those who view/listen to it and would like to discuss some of the point made feel free to comment. For those who don't even care enough to listen to it but want to comment anyway, don't. You'll have nothing of worth to say about it if you don't watch it and nobody wants to read your comments when they're made out of ignorance. Thank you and enjoy.



Brilliant - thank you.



posted on Oct, 22 2017 @ 07:37 PM
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originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
Anti-enlightenment, anti-American, anti-western claptrap with a Trump-bashing cherry on top. You have to love when preachers try to predict the future.


Very simple question for you? Did you watch the speech? All of it?

Only question I want answered - I guess it's actually two questions.



posted on Oct, 22 2017 @ 07:38 PM
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originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: Gryphon66

You can’t help to make it personal, because I suspect you lack any other appropriate response.

If you want economic equality and other such nonsense, why don’t you give it? If you want good wages, healthcare, affordable housing, why won’t you do that? It’s because you don’t want to. The push for socialism is a lie in order to disguise the socialist’s propensity towards laziness and moral posturing.


Make it personal? Let's remain within the boundaries of the facts here. You are the one who piped claiming to know something about how a successful business is run.

It's pretty evident that you know little to nothing about how businesses actually run, small, medium or otherwise. No one's "pushing for socialism" by compensating employees fairly and making sure they have healthcare, in fact, if you had any idea of the reality of what we're talking about, you would know that for a relatively small investment in salaries and group insurance plans, any workforce stays more highly motivated and more productive thereby increasing profitability far beyond the investment. The biggest expense in virtually any enterprise is the people who work for you ... when you have a skilled, experienced, motivated staff ... the value is truly priceless.
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posted on Oct, 22 2017 @ 08:14 PM
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originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
Anti-enlightenment, anti-American, anti-western claptrap with a Trump-bashing cherry on top. You have to love when preachers try to predict the future.





Utter rubbish, the speech was bashing corporations .

You didn't watch it.



posted on Oct, 22 2017 @ 10:55 PM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: LesMisanthrope

How many “big companies” have you started and built again?

Should we listen to your experience, or are you, like many here, whistling past a graveyard?


(or just a poor small business owner).




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