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Vegas: Multiple Survivors/Eyewitness Tell of Multiple Shooters at Multiple Casinos

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posted on Oct, 21 2017 @ 11:11 PM
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a reply to: MysticPearl

Excellent points and very well said -- thank you!





posted on Oct, 21 2017 @ 11:14 PM
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originally posted by: KansasGirl

originally posted by: norhoc
a reply to: Boadicea


Sorry not buying it. Eyewitnesses are usually very unreliable. Ask any investigator and they will tell you one of the worst things they can hear is "there are eyewitnesses" Also you referenced a guy saying bullets were going horizontal and not "raining down", How would he know what direction the bullets are going. It is easy in a shooting scenario especially in a city setting with echo, to think shots are coming from several locations when all you are really hearing is echo.


So when the policeman said he had casualties at Giles and Alibaba, was he being an unreliable eyewitness?

He said there were reports/calls claiming as much. As should already be blatantly obvious, many of the calls and reports they received were incorrect. Again, look at the calls about Tropicana. They are receiving multiple calls claiming someone is firing there, and yet there was a strike team present at that location at that same time, and they said repeatedly that no shots had actually been fired there. It was a chaotic and confusing situation. Some information is virtualluly guaranteed to be incorrect and inaccurate.



posted on Oct, 21 2017 @ 11:17 PM
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To believe that this was a conspiracy and/or cover-up, you have to believe that hundreds upon hundreds of witnesses, including a multitude of EMT's and policeman and so forth, were either in on it from the beginning or are somehow being silenced and/or bought off.
If you're willing to believe that.... well, then you probably don't have the sharpest critical thinking skills.



posted on Oct, 21 2017 @ 11:18 PM
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a reply to: KansasGirl


So when the policeman said he had casualties at Giles and Alibaba, was he being an unreliable eyewitness?


Well... that sure isn't my take on the matter... If I thought that, then I'd have to think the same about the report of the dead female at the Tropicana too... and... well... pretty much the entire police audio that night would be unreliable.

But apparently some would say so.



posted on Oct, 21 2017 @ 11:23 PM
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a reply to: Maroboduus


To believe that this was a conspiracy and/or cover-up, you have to believe that hundreds upon hundreds of witnesses, including a multitude of EMT's and policeman and so forth, were either in on it from the beginning or are somehow being silenced and/or bought off.


I think that's the problem... there are so many conflicting reports that not all can be the truth, which leads one to wonder and in the end all we can do is wonder what is the truth.

For example, the EMTs at the Tropicana who reported being shot at. Or the security guard at the Bellagio? Were they lying? Were they wrong? Were they misunderstood?

We just don't know.



posted on Oct, 21 2017 @ 11:26 PM
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originally posted by: Boadicea
a reply to: KansasGirl


So when the policeman said he had casualties at Giles and Alibaba, was he being an unreliable eyewitness?


Well... that sure isn't my take on the matter... If I thought that, then I'd have to think the same about the report of the dead female at the Tropicana too... and... well... pretty much the entire police audio that night would be unreliable.

But apparently some would say so.


Because it IS unreliable. At least, it's not reliable in the manner that many of you are trying to claim. They were simply relaying what they were being told by callers, which, once again, is very often inaccurate.

Calls/radio: there is an active shooter in Tropicana.
Strike Team IN Tropicana: there is no shooter and zero shots have been fired.
Calls/radio: There is an active shooter in NYNY.
Strike Team IN NYNY: There is no shooter here, and no shots have been fired.

I mean, even one such instance should be enough to show that you can't rely on everything that's being said over the police radio as accurate information, let alone hard evidence.

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posted on Oct, 21 2017 @ 11:34 PM
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a reply to: Maroboduus


I mean, even one such instance should be enough to show that you can't rely on everything that's being said over the police radio as accurate information, let alone hard evidence.


Exactly. And neither of us know which reports are correct and which are not.

Nothing was "normal" that night. Nothing was what it should be or what we would expect it to be. There was a terrorist attack on the people. There is no reason to expect anything -- including police audio -- to be what it should be or what we would expect it to be.

Especially knowing that patrol cars were being taken by civilians giving unimpeded access to police communications.

Anything could have happened.

And while I have a little reason to doubt the stories of strangers (all of which correspond with the reports on the police audio, and each other), I have every reason to doubt the "official" story that keeps changing -- and the officials who keep changing it.
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posted on Oct, 22 2017 @ 12:57 AM
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originally posted by: Asktheanimals


About the most casual group you will ever see under fire:

Smiling? With automatic weapons going off within 100 yards of where you're standing? Death wish party, right?

You can't possibly be serious. Casual? You mean, aside from the hundreds of people in the video that can be seen running for their lives and heard screaming in terror? Or the ones crawling around or laying on the ground? Make up your mind, moron. First you claim that there were multiple shooters, then you seem to imply that there was no danger at all and people were acting casually. You can't have it both ways. *SNIP*

As for your claims about the shooters in othe areas (which you seemingly contradict in terms exact same post), there are logical explanations for those calls and claims. *SNIP*
edit on 10/22/2017 by Blaine91555 because: Snipped name calling.



posted on Oct, 22 2017 @ 01:05 AM
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originally posted by: Asktheanimals

originally posted by: SaturnFX

originally posted by: Asktheanimals
Smiling? With automatic weapons going off within 100 yards of where you're standing? Death wish party, right?

Many people react differently to high levels of anxiety..from bursting out crying, to laughing, etc.


True, but standing erect and not flinching as gunfire is going off around you supposedly not knowing who the targets are doesn't seem like a reaction to anything.....and that is what's abnormal. Nearly all of us duck instinctively, here we have a group that doesn't. With one standing tall wearing a 9/11 never forget commemorative T shirt.

They're far, far away from the shooting. And what the hell does his shirt have to do with anything?
And again, you seem to be implying... what, that they weren't in any danger, and thus this didn't happen? That's the natural implication of claiming they were not acting like people would if there was a gunman. Yet, you also claim that there were multiple shooters. Do you.... do you somehow not even realize how contradictory and downright idiotic that is? Make up your mind on which dumb theory you want to believe.


(post by Maroboduus removed for a manners violation)

posted on Oct, 22 2017 @ 01:29 AM
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a reply to: Boadicea

This isn't something that happened last year!! It JUST happened, and I remember it clearly as well as the rest of us on here!! We heard it on the scanners as it was happening live and there were several different reports of gunfire coming from different places. I heard "shots fired at (the place down the street), officer down"....

Just don't know what to make of it all. Strange.



posted on Oct, 22 2017 @ 01:46 AM
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originally posted by: scraedtosleep
The media and government lies to us all the time. Nothing new about that.

So why does it mater if there were other shooters?


It matters that they may be lying to us...



posted on Oct, 22 2017 @ 04:38 AM
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originally posted by: Asktheanimals

originally posted by: SaturnFX

originally posted by: Asktheanimals
Smiling? With automatic weapons going off within 100 yards of where you're standing? Death wish party, right?

Many people react differently to high levels of anxiety..from bursting out crying, to laughing, etc.


True, but standing erect and not flinching as gunfire is going off around you supposedly not knowing who the targets are doesn't seem like a reaction to anything.....and that is what's abnormal. Nearly all of us duck instinctively, here we have a group that doesn't. With one standing tall wearing a 9/11 never forget commemorative T shirt.

Yes,, perhaps not the typical reaction, but then again, its not really normal to stand up and give the finger to an active shooter while having a cold one

But there will always be people who react different than the norm, and those are the ones who are reported and seen, not the huddled shrieking masses next to them acting normal.



posted on Oct, 22 2017 @ 05:14 AM
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Great thread Boadecia
I feel so very sorry for all the eye witnesses, those actually there on the ground who are now been accused of fabrication lying and generally being "mistaken". The whole point of this ridiculous scenario by the FBI Police and MSM is to do exactly that, so people will discredit the eye witnesses and stick to the official narrative. They are in effect making these poor people conspiracy theorists!

Oh and Maroboduus...is it necessary to come into a thread spouting your opinion whilst name calling others? Calling people dumb clowns and morons...hmm critical thinking indeed
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posted on Oct, 22 2017 @ 05:22 AM
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originally posted by: scraedtosleep
The media and government lies to us all the time. Nothing new about that.

So why does it mater if there were other shooters?


The globalists rely on quashing every conceivable facet of sovereignty, and the individual is
a prime target toward this collective. It isn’t hard to grasp any more than one plus one becomes all, in time.

Watch, as the story vanishes, since the media, after all, have recognized that we have caught their
complicity, as too few Patrons of the Official Story are calling us ‘feces’ whilst shouting that
people died. Such discussion was not allowed during Newton, because people died, so it would seem we are making progress...

But in a few months, the Vegas loner psycho gun collector will reappear
as though nothing were odd about the narrative they scribed, as to herald new restrictions on liberty, new restrictions on speech, internet dissent, travel, etc... They will act as though they spoke God’s truth while selling us into permanent bondage and impossible submission.

The lone gunman theory casts suspicion on every individual, which is the gold standard as far as street sweeping, for collecting the recalcitrant conspiracy freaks, who live in Mom’s basement and who, using the internet, reach out to other freaks just like them, to paraphrase Anderson Cooper. You will see soon enough. The media may have dropped the story for now, all it’s lies, fabrications, and sinister crystal clear hidden intent. Eventually, the coming routine psych evaluations will begin to trickle into and out of the MSM, and mentioned as being a matter of routine security. But it has to start slowly, they must be careful with this one, since even the most ardent lover of Official Stories tends to become dubiously aware, when they sense what is to remain after such an inferno.

I should also point out, in direct response to.your query, that it is quite likely that a group were involved; isis, antifa, who knows, on a personal basis (the mob does and will probably deal with it on a person to person basis). The very last thing globaliss could ever wish for, or dread, would be that more firearms are collected by more individuals.

When they need it, the Paddock patsy will will be dragged up to complement every millimeter of progress toward erasing individual rights, the sum of which hold tyranny in perpetual check. It will be hard to not notice, trust me, just like having your face cleaned with a rag soaked in poo, each time the presstitutes mention Paddock, while acting like they believe it (scrutinize their faces/voices closely when they commemorate any OS event). This will be done in perpetuity. Too few will remember these days, the lies, the changes, these pages, or worse....too few will dare to speak of them. Time will tell, as ever. But in the long run,
we’re all dead.

Indeed, it is almost necessary that we smell the stink; it serves as a psychological wrecking ball. We are supposed to feel powerless after all.

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posted on Oct, 22 2017 @ 05:30 AM
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a reply to: Boadicea

Another good thread Boadicea! 👏👏

Thanks for the work you did, to put this together. I know it’s not easy keeping track of all info that has been presented.



posted on Oct, 22 2017 @ 07:22 AM
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Just want to fallow, but not comment.



posted on Oct, 22 2017 @ 07:37 AM
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If I had a dollar for every call that I responded to on a "routine" day of patrol in which a person called in shots being fired, but in reality it was something else, I would have a sizable amount of money.

I would imagine that after something as chaotic as the concert shooting everyone was on the razor's edge and reporting every loud bang as a gunshot, and every person looking slightly suspicious as a potential shooter.






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posted on Oct, 22 2017 @ 07:37 AM
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originally posted by: TruthJava
a reply to: Boadicea

This isn't something that happened last year!! It JUST happened, and I remember it clearly as well as the rest of us on here!! We heard it on the scanners as it was happening live and there were several different reports of gunfire coming from different places. I heard "shots fired at (the place down the street), officer down"....

Just don't know what to make of it all. Strange.



How many chaotic situations have you been in that involved multiple people spread out? If the answer is more than 0 then the incorrect reports of multiple shooters should make sense..

The real world is not a TV show and the fog of war, Murphy's Law, human perception all add their own variables into scenarios like this..into a network outtage that doeant have an obvious source, into a car accident..take your pick...

I ask again what seems more likely, logical or realistic...

Their were multiple shooters and injuries all up and down the strip yet their isnt a single picture , video, audio clip showing that . Only reports from people in an unknown, developing situation..

Or

Humans in a chaotic situation did what humands did and acted chaotically which added to the chaos...

Even without shooting if you lined up people at the Mandalay Bay end of the strip down to the Bellagio and played whisper down the lane I am sure the statement that starts off as "the sky is blue" would end up as "the grass is green". When those people at the other end of the Strip start reporting what they heard that doesnt mean they were accurate or right..it just means their perception of what they heard has modified what the truth was....



posted on Oct, 22 2017 @ 08:12 AM
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a reply to: Maroboduus

The insults and rudeness are neither necessary nor appropriate and sure as hell not appreciated here. No one has been rude or insulting to you -- exactly the opposite. And I also know you don't know what happened --and did not happen -- any more than we do. So whether it's ignorance, or arrogance, or a combination of the two that makes you think you know... you are wrong. You don't know. And we all know that much. So you're only fooling yourself... and making a big fool of yourself in the process.

Have your say... I can't stop you from making a total and complete fool of yourself... only you can do that. But I can and will tell you: I'm done with you.



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