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originally posted by: Asktheanimals
I've put this in several threads hoping to lay the police chopper footage to rest.
FAA Radar returns from Las Vegas near the Route 91 concert venue.
Seems all the helicopters but one were tourist flights followed by a Las Vegas PD chopper.
This is the one thought to be shooting due to bright flashes when it was in fact, a searchlight.
originally posted by: Zoyd23
But a lot of critical thinkers are still questioning every detail until they're satisfied...
Right now, the official story is neither logical nor credible, and the long list of witnesses of who claim they saw/heard multiple shooters suggests a larger game is afoot, and somewhere there may be evidence that will unravel this whole fishy, tragic performance.
And maybe somebody on ATS will figure out a more credible scenario...
And great post, Brodicaea!
...am even more confused by the "leaked" information that keeps popping up from you know, "unidentified sources."
I also know how very many of those videos must have been collected as evidence and how much time it is going to take to look at each one and try to stitch together an honest timeline of events.
Perhaps this above reply is not intended to be so, but something about this reply makes me immediately think this has been written by someone who is paid to attend these forums and write replies that cast doubt on the premise of the OP. When caught out, a flippant comment meant to minimise the impact of the lies told by the media and the official story, is then made.
Cant help but sense the touch of an uncle sam agency here.
originally posted by: djz3ro
Okay, I have a new theory. What if the leaked crime scene pictures were taken by the real gunman as a big F.U. to everyone?
One person who was at the concert said that she didn't see how some of the victims who were shot close to the stage could have been shot from the 32nd floor of the Mandalay Bay because they couldn't have been seen, or hit, from that vantage point due to the stage backdrop with its video projection screens. (Those were not her words. She said "the angle", but it is clear what she meant.)
While eyewitness claims are notoriously unreliable, all these transcripts and accounts taken together definitely point at multiple shooters.
I've seen that Rene Downs video as well as the interview, and was reading a thread on Youtube (I'd have to dig to find the link!) that she was responding in herself. Some people claimed that a rack of metal stands fell against the door, causing everyone to panic. Well if that were true, why is the Bellagio not releasing video of that to debunk everyone's claims?
I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of casino video footage goes "missing".
originally posted by: ChadeS
a reply to: Boadicea
I suspect Paddock made his income by laundering money. The "gambling" winnings and real estate investments all point to that. Whether he operated in some Deep State capacity or had ties to some criminal network remains to be seen.
Money-laundering is a dirty secret most Casinos prefer to ignore, but it does seem to be their bread and butter.
News broke days before the shootings of a big money-laundering operation busted in Vancouver, BC. Here's an article showing how real estate and casino gambling are linked with that: www.nationalobserver.com...
originally posted by: Boadicea
a reply to: ipsedixit
I've wondered about that too -- but just from the pics I've seen, not personal experience. But I had no idea how to confirm or debunk the thought. I might also depend on the shooter's position -- standing, kneeling or prone on the ground.
We had considered sheltering in Hooters, then all of the sudden there was a massive panic and stampede of people trying to get away from Hooters. We started running again as fast as we could, unsure exactly what the panic was about.
We heard talk of multiple shooters in multiple locations. This was the point that I remembered how unreliable early information is in these situations. We didn’t know what was true that we were hearing, and what wasn’t....
As we approached McCaren airport we heard rumors that one of the shooters had stolen a Police vehicle during the Chaos.