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IRS to block, suspend tax returns that lack Obamacare disclosures

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posted on Oct, 20 2017 @ 02:54 PM
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Looks like the IRS is getting sticky about people who don't disclose their health insurance status on their tax returns.

The IRS is going to reject some returns that lack the info.

Must be somebody at the IRS has a problem.

Or is this just another ploy of some sort ?

IRS to block, suspend tax returns that lack Obamacare disclosures


The IRS is warning tax professionals that it will block or suspend processing of 2017 income tax returns that do not comply with Obamacare rules requiring filers to disclose their health insurance status.

The new move to tighten Americans' compliance with the Affordable Care Act comes even as the Trump administration takes steps to undercut it.

"Taxpayers remain obligated to follow the law and pay what they may owe at the point of filing," the IRS said in a description of the new policy.




posted on Oct, 20 2017 @ 02:57 PM
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i am honestly not even sure what your'e speculating? the IRS has an agenda of... something... in making sure people are complying with the law?

what



posted on Oct, 20 2017 @ 02:57 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

Not processing an incomplete return?
Oh my goodness.



posted on Oct, 20 2017 @ 03:04 PM
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a reply to: Phage

It's quite a pain in the ass for those that got help signing up for Obamacare. They don't know their logins ect. Plus Healthcare.gov records are messed up about 5 to 10% of the time. In the past such things have delayed refunds by months.



posted on Oct, 20 2017 @ 03:05 PM
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a reply to: pavil

All you have to do is check a box on your 1040 and if you don't check it, explain why.

If you don't, your return is incomplete.

edit on 10/20/2017 by Phage because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 20 2017 @ 03:05 PM
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It looks like some of the Obama leftovers in the IRS are still salty from that devastating election loss and are hitting back against all the attacks trying to kill the ACA. Just more political games from the IRS, imagine that. It's not like Obama "weaponized" the IRS into a political entity that specializes in witch hunts involving conservative groups, no that could never happen.
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posted on Oct, 20 2017 @ 03:06 PM
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originally posted by: Nucleardoom
It looks like some of the Obama leftovers in the IRS are still salty from that devastating election loss and are hitting back against all the attacks trying to kill the ACA. Just more political games from the IRS, imagine that. It's not like Obama "weaponized" the IRS into a political entity that specializes in witch hunts only involving conservative groups.


actually, the IRS cracked down on left and right wing entities during the alleged conservative witch hunts



posted on Oct, 20 2017 @ 03:13 PM
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originally posted by: fiverx313

originally posted by: Nucleardoom
It looks like some of the Obama leftovers in the IRS are still salty from that devastating election loss and are hitting back against all the attacks trying to kill the ACA. Just more political games from the IRS, imagine that. It's not like Obama "weaponized" the IRS into a political entity that specializes in witch hunts involving conservative groups.


actually, the IRS cracked down on left and right wing entities during the alleged conservative witch hunts


So including some token left wing entities makes it all ok then? Not by a long shot.



posted on Oct, 20 2017 @ 03:16 PM
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originally posted by: Nucleardoom
So including some token left wing entities makes it all ok then? Not by a long shot.


first it's only conservative groups, now there's token left wing groups. which is it?


Beginning in March 2010, the IRS more closely scrutinized certain organizations applying for tax-exempt status under sections 501(c)(3) and 501(c)(4) of the Internal Revenue Code by focusing on groups with certain words in their names.[33][34][35] In May 2010, some employees of the "Determinations Unit" of the Cincinnati office of the IRS, which is tasked with reviewing applications pertaining to tax-exempt status, began developing a spreadsheet that became known as the "Be On the Look Out" ("BOLO") list.

The list, first distributed in August 2010, suggested intensive scrutiny of applicants with names related to a number of political causes, including names related to the Tea Party movement and other conservative causes.[35] Eventually, IRS employees in Ohio, California, and Washington, D.C.[36] applied closer scrutiny to applications from organizations that:[37][38][39]

referenced words such as "Tea Party", "Patriots", or "9/12 Project", "progressive," "occupy," "Israel," "open source software," "medical marijuana" and "occupied territory advocacy" in the case file;[34][35]
outlined issues in the application that included government spending, government debt, or taxes;
involved advocating or lobbying to "make America a better place to live";
had statements in the case file that criticized how the country is being run;
advocated education about the Constitution and the Bill of Rights;
were focused on challenging the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act—known by many as Obamacare;
questioned the integrity of federal elections.


looks fairly even-handed to me.

en.wikipedia.org...



posted on Oct, 20 2017 @ 03:25 PM
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Phage already said it. All you have to do, is check a box. Quite literally, that is all you need to do. The faux outrage!

Shouldnt supreme leader have just disbanded the IRS at this point anyways??



posted on Oct, 20 2017 @ 03:33 PM
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I remember that box. It was pretty easy to check it.



posted on Oct, 20 2017 @ 03:35 PM
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originally posted by: lightedhype
Phage already said it. All you have to do, is check a box. Quite literally, that is all you need to do. The faux outrage!

Shouldnt supreme leader have just disbanded the IRS at this point anyways??


Wouldn't that be a great accomplishment to disband the iRS?

That would arguably be the greatest act by a POTUS in the history of the U.S.



posted on Oct, 20 2017 @ 03:58 PM
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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: xuenchen

Not processing an incomplete return?
Oh my goodness.


Yeah, the nerve of the IRS.



posted on Oct, 20 2017 @ 04:40 PM
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a reply to: Phage

I do taxes for a living it's not that simple. If you had coverage through the marketplace you need the 1095 a. Even if you say no, the IRS knows and will hold your return till you clear that up.
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posted on Oct, 20 2017 @ 04:50 PM
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a reply to: pavil
Yes. Which is provided to the taxpayer. Right?

But that's not what this is about. This is about checking a box.

The IRS says it will not accept electronic tax returns that do not disclose whether the filer had health insurance coverage during the year.

It also says it will suspend paper returns that do not have the disclosure.

www.cnbc.com...


regarding your edit:

Even if you say no, the IRS knows and will hold your return till you clear that up.
Yes. But that would be because you filed an inaccurate return. Possibly fraudulent, actually.

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posted on Oct, 20 2017 @ 04:53 PM
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a reply to: Nucleardoom

No it's not that. The ACA is still the law of the land till Congress changes it. The law still has to be enforced, Trump's executive order non-withstanding.



posted on Oct, 20 2017 @ 05:11 PM
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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: pavil
Yes. Which is provided to the taxpayer. Right?

But that's not what this is about. This is about checking a box.

The IRS says it will not accept electronic tax returns that do not disclose whether the filer had health insurance coverage during the year.

It also says it will suspend paper returns that do not have the disclosure.

www.cnbc.com...


regarding your edit:

Even if you say no, the IRS knows and will hold your return till you clear that up.
Yes. But that would be because you filed an inaccurate return. Possibly fraudulent, actually.


You'd be shocked by how many people had someone else signed them up for the ACA. Those on Medicaid still get signed up on the ACA sometimes and it messes up their return since they don't think they were signed up on the marketplace. They don't know their username Nor their password. If you answer the question no I did not have coverage through the marketplace and you did, the IRS already knows that you did have coverage regardless of how you answer and it will delay your return.

It's more complicated than you imply for a significant amount of lower income people from my experience.

The whole mechanism could be automated by the IRS.....they have all the info they need to calculate any Shared Responsibility payments or Premium tax credit changes. It's been made more complex than it needed to be.....what a shock.



posted on Oct, 20 2017 @ 05:16 PM
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It's been made more complex than it needed to be.....what a shock.

But then you'd have to find a new way to make a living.



posted on Oct, 20 2017 @ 06:08 PM
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originally posted by: Metallicus

Wouldn't that be a great accomplishment to disband the iRS?

That would arguably be the greatest act by a POTUS in the history of the U.S.


Without a doubt!



originally posted by: pavil
a reply to: Nucleardoom

No it's not that. The ACA is still the law of the land till Congress changes it. The law still has to be enforced, Trump's executive order non-withstanding.


The federal government likes to pick and choose to which laws they deem "convenient" to enforce. I love how we were enforcing the federal immigration laws, among others.



posted on Oct, 20 2017 @ 07:02 PM
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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: pavil

All you have to do is check a box on your 1040 and if you don't check it, explain why.

If you don't, your return is incomplete.

Yeah , no proof needed...




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