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Trump Tweets Out Fake News about UK Crime Figures to Suit His Agenda , So Sad

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posted on Oct, 20 2017 @ 07:08 PM
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originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
a reply to: EvillerBob

Don't even bother doing your research eh?

Trump said it so it must be true.

The increase in violent crime figures is driven largely by two things

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As such trump saying the crime figures are going up and trying to claim it’s a result of terrorism is wrong


Did you actually read anything that I posted?

Trump identified two things happening. There is a rise in crime - as you yourself say. There is a rise in terrorist-related incidents.

What you're putting forward is a reply to something that he didn't actually say. He didn't say that the rise in crime is caused by terrorist-related incidents.

Although, if you want to be pedantic, the crime figures would actually be lower if those terrorist acts didn't happen, because those acts involve crimes that are then... included in the crime figures, thereby increasing them. So Trump would be right anyway, if he was making the suggestion that you claim.

The issue isn't actually whether he's right or wrong, it's whether you want him to be right or wrong.




posted on Oct, 20 2017 @ 07:13 PM
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originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

I'm sorry but you're just misinterpreting simple English for whatever reason. Crime is on the rise amid the spread Radical Islamic terror . That's a fact.


Indeed.

"Summertime and the living is easy. Fish are jumping and the cotton is high."

According to ATS, George Gershwin is suggesting that "jumping fish" are somehow responsible for causing the cotton to grow. Clearly the man is an idiot!



posted on Oct, 20 2017 @ 07:52 PM
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a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

Na...they're watching the homeless line up in soup kitchens. No cameras in the UK...

www.google.com.au...


Based on David Davis' estimate, which is still unrivalled, the figure of how many CCTV cameras there are in London stands at around one camera for every 14 people, adding up to a total of about 422,000 – however this number is increasing…Mar 22, 201



From your own Echelon thread
www.abovetopsecret.com...


but with evidence that it has been used for targeting non-government organizations, may have been targeting private individuals and the evidence from the EU that it has been used for massive corporate espionage I have to question the cost benefit of this. It would appear to me that corporate-greed and a thrust for power is being put before civil-liberties



posted on Oct, 20 2017 @ 08:11 PM
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originally posted by: CranialSponge
Call me crazy, but doesn't this guy have a country to run or something ?

I thought only the kiddies had all the time in the world for tweeting twitty tweets day after day, after day, after day, after day......(inhale)

..... after day, after day, after day, after day..... (inhale)

..... after day, after day, after day, after day.....







Trumps job is to keep the people divided and arguing.

Tell me do you think he is fulfilling his purpose?



posted on Oct, 21 2017 @ 05:56 AM
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My bad, I do apologize. When I lived in Great Britain cops didn’t carry guns, my uncle was one. Things are much safer in your multicultural utopia now. Carry on....a reply to: skalla




posted on Oct, 21 2017 @ 06:24 AM
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Not just London. According to the US press recently, my home city is a Mulim-controlled no-go zone, which came as quite the surprise to its thousands of multicultural residents.
Also, not read to the end, so this point might already be made, but the rise in sexual offences directly correlates to the rise in reporting of said crimes, including those within marriage. This can only be a good thing. Trump needs to focus less on our crime statistics and concentrate on, particularly but not exclusively, sexual crimes a whole closer to home.
reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin



posted on Oct, 21 2017 @ 06:31 AM
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originally posted by: gortex
Latest crime figures for England and Wales published by the Office for National Statistics show an increase in recorded crime of 13% in the last 12 months , the reason for the rise is due to an increase in Knife crime and Sexual offences with a small rise in the number of homicides.

At 3:31 am the Twatter in chief tweeted out this little nugget of skewed wisdom.

Just out report: "United Kingdom crime rises 13% annually amid spread of Radical Islamic terror." Not good, we must keep America safe!
twitter.com...


The actual reason for the rise has Nothing to do with Islamic terrorism as the ONS say in this report

John Flatley, from the ONS, said: "While improvements made by police forces in recording crime are still a factor in the increase, we judge that there have been genuine increases in crime - particularly in some of the low incidence but more harmful categories."
But he said police figures alone cannot provide "a good measure of all crime in society".
"The recent increases in recorded crime need to be seen in the context of the overall decline in crime indicated by the Crime Survey for England and Wales," he said.

The 19% increase in "violence against the person" offences dealt with by police was "driven largely" by increases in the sub-categories of "violence without injury" (21%) and "stalking and harassment" (36%) and "violence with injury" (10%), the ONS said.
www.bbc.co.uk...


There is a problem with knife crime especially in London but not due to terrorism but criminal gang activity , only a fool would see a 13% increase in the figures as terrorism related.
Once again the leader of the free world spins a LIE to suit his own agenda.
Sad , pathetic and beneath contempt.


I actually do not think he is far off the mark. It seems to me Trump haters want any reason to tarnish the guy. What he says has truth in it, we are currently watching over 5000 extremists 24 hours a day 7 days a week 365 days a year. I will ask for the freedom of information act regarding costs to watch these people so I have facts but I have seen musings of £3000 a week per person? Full time surveillance does not come cheap and because of this cuts have been made in other areas leading to an Increase in crimes that before were being better funded I.e the bobby on the beat.

I sincerely had my reservations about the potus but from where I sit he is trying his best to drain the swamp, despite the intense grief he gets off all MSM. It's so obvious they want him out because they don't control him.




posted on Oct, 21 2017 @ 06:41 AM
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a reply to: EvillerBob

Then what was the point of his three o'clock in the morning tweet? Clearly, if you did not get the impression that Islamic terrorism was responsible me for the rise in crime, his effort was wasted. The question is whether he really believes the lie he is trying to tell. What do you think? Is he a cunning liar or delusional idiot?



posted on Oct, 21 2017 @ 06:50 AM
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originally posted by: WUNK22
My bad, I do apologize. When I lived in Great Britain cops didn’t carry guns, my uncle was one. Things are much safer in your multicultural utopia now. Carry on....a reply to: skalla



What happened is 1984 not extreamism. If all of a sudden our police armed themselves heavily we would have uprisen against it. Give us the tube bomb and a few guns come out, specialist tactical response teams. Fast forward to today and what we see is shocking. The police look like judge dread. We have allowed this because they are protecting us? They are wolves in sheeps clothing and we always need bogey men to keep us like nodding dogs to the system.

They have changed our laws over extreamists and have more control of the population because of the extremists. The system loves extreamists.




posted on Oct, 21 2017 @ 08:25 AM
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a reply to: TheConstruKctionofLight

That just blew me away, 422,000 CCTV cameras in London, one for every 14 people?.

Has it helped with crime there I wonder.

Considering this 13% rise in crime (surrounded by lol) spread of Radical Islamic terror, covers all England and Wales, is the % of crime less for London because of the cameras.

And mainly have they stopped the spread of the "Muslamic Ray Guns" yet?...



(Muslim rape gangs)



posted on Oct, 21 2017 @ 10:27 AM
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originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: gortex

Do you know what “amid” means? It doesn’t mean “caused by” or “reason for”. It means “surrounded by”.

And you guys invented the language.


Obviously to those not purposely trying to be obtuse, he is trying to link the two in the minds of those who read his tweet. Why else would he post that at all otherwise. This is not a big deal to me however, Trump is apparently learning how to be a politician, and spin facts to suit his agenda.



posted on Oct, 21 2017 @ 10:29 AM
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originally posted by: o0oTOPCATo0o
Acid

Maybe not exactly terrorism, but there has been a dramatic rise in acid attacks, which is traditionally committed by extreme muslims.



You made that up.

Acid attacks have been part of London gang culture since Jack Spot and Billy Hill.



posted on Oct, 21 2017 @ 10:33 AM
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a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

You know your problem, mate?

You're relying on direct experience, on real life.

You need to visit some US "news" websites and watch Fox News to see what's really going on outside your front door.



posted on Oct, 21 2017 @ 10:40 AM
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originally posted by: ModusPonus
a reply to: gortex

I think you will learn if you decide to read anything other than the BBC, is that crime against muslims has risen 70%. Now the next question is why? Why are the locals pushing back? hmmmm
Maybe they want to be able to go out at night? or visit some friends in places they can no longer go?
Either way Trump is still our president and he has been quite prophetic lately....


Because they are falling for all the propaganda, like that trump tweet. Just like the Germans did with Jews.



posted on Oct, 21 2017 @ 10:50 AM
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originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: smurfy

That's a good point. Crime in the UK does not rise 13% annually. Now only if the news had reported on that, it wouldn't have to make things up in order to fool an unsuspecting public.



The news in the UK reported the facts as were given, Trump however got his erroneous, 'facts' straight off an American channel...America News Network (OANN) and being a pro -Trump set-up, probably did that deliberately. Fake News eh?



posted on Oct, 21 2017 @ 06:23 PM
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originally posted by: Kurokage
Terrorism and crime recording in the UK is not labelled one and the same, we seem to be able to differentiate between the two here. Something Trump can't seem to do??
Also what is going on with this site lately with Americans labelling everything wrong in the world with liberals or right wing, its getting very tiresome listening to you guys ripping each other apart because of political beliefs in your country, the USA is going to tear its self apart!!!


tommy robinson wouldnt agree with you. he has case after case on video of the cops protecting the muslim immigrants while the native sons of the uk get pummeled in the streets. one of his big gripes is the fact the police in the UK are not reporting these crimes for what they are or just arent arresting them even when the police see them commit the act



posted on Oct, 21 2017 @ 06:38 PM
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a reply to: TheScale

But Tommy Robinson would say that wouldn't he ?



posted on Oct, 21 2017 @ 07:08 PM
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originally posted by: gortex
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There is a problem with knife crime especially in London but not due to terrorism but criminal gang activity , only a fool would see a 13% increase in the figures as terrorism related.
Once again the leader of the free world spins a LIE to suit his own agenda.
Sad , pathetic and beneath contempt.


So, by generalizing Muslim gangs by just calling them gangs you want to claim this is only related to gang violence and you obviously leave out the part about increase in Muslim gangs?...





Also



Who is lying to suit their own agenda?...


edit on 21-10-2017 by ElectricUniverse because: add and correct comment.

edit on 21-10-2017 by ElectricUniverse because: correct link.



posted on Oct, 21 2017 @ 09:00 PM
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originally posted by: Eshel
I have only one point of contention in this thread so far.

Can we stop using the word "Muslim" as interchangeable with "terrorist" ? Getting pretty sick and tired of seeing an entire religion blamed.

How about from now on, instead of calling them "nazis", I just use the word "christians". (ex: "man, those christians were horrible people during ww2")

Now, that being said, I see what the OP is saying and agree 100%. Just those small twisting of words can change a narrative greatly. Trump should really lay off Twitter. If for no other reason than to cover his own ass. Typed words have no inflection and anything said can be construed according to the reader. I say, if he wants to communicate like this, just use the camera on his phone and make a short statement and post that instead. I'd applaud him much more. (though, admittedly, i'd probably disagree with what he said lol)

)0( Blessed Be )0(


I think we might see less of the baby with the bathwater tossing when we see more of that vast majority of non extremist stepping up to silence the small splinter group of extremist.

I do agree that the Donald needs to stop acting like a tween girl and get off twitter.
edit on 10/21/2017 by DrumJunkie because: because I said so



posted on Oct, 21 2017 @ 09:15 PM
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a reply to: gortex

and if your going to go with that reply it shows just how closed your mind is cause why would the bbc be anyu more reliable. atleast tommy robinson has video evidence. actual facts. meanwhile ive yet to see anyone provide real evidence and statistics to prove the migrants havent had any affect. its always the argument of, "cause i said so" or look at these statistics which dont define the groups committing the crimes so theres no way to determine if thats part of the cause. even the end of the bbc article states that everyone is confused as to why there is such an increase. which imo is due to how they are logging the crimes, its way too broad of a stroke and if u want to identify the problem they need to get a more granular look at the data
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