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originally posted by: seeker1963
originally posted by: windword
a reply to: DBCowboy
No, general Kelly doesn't believe that any "patriotic American" has the right to question the authority of the military hierarchy or the president's motives. He is projecting military demand for blind obedience onto the American people.
LOL!
You stepped in it so bad, now you are pretending you can read minds????? A patriotic American who understands the Constitution, you know that ancient piece of paper you Progs want destroyed, KNOWS that questioning the government IS PARAMOUNT to our Freedom and Liberty!
I know, it's a hard concept for Totalitarians to grasp......
"Their struggle is your struggle," Kelly said, according to a video of his remarks.
"They disdain those who claim to support them but not the cause that takes their innocence, their limbs, and their lives. As a democracy … we must support them. I know it doesn't apply to anyone in this room today, but if anyone thinks you can somehow thank them for their service, and not support the cause for which they fight–our country–then these people are lying to themselves and rationalizing away something in their own lives, but, more importantly, they are slighting our warriors and mocking their commitment to this nation."
freebeacon.com...
well, I saw an interview with a gold star mom who was disappointed with Kelley's speech and the way he went after that congress women.
originally posted by: windword
a reply to: thesaneone
"He knew what he was signing up for.......but it still hurts when it happens."
You know, that 2nd part makes it worse, don't you? It gives the impression that death is the expectation, and that Trump considers his soldiers disposable fodder and their deaths as acceptable collateral damage.
originally posted by: hounddoghowlie
a reply to: windword
didn't say any thing about free speech,or but since you brought it up.
both kelly and trump both have that right to. and they have the right to give you apiece of their mind.
from listening to both men, i would dare say they would tear you a new one in their response to you.
even as dumb as trump is.
originally posted by: windword
originally posted by: seeker1963
originally posted by: windword
a reply to: DBCowboy
No, general Kelly doesn't believe that any "patriotic American" has the right to question the authority of the military hierarchy or the president's motives. He is projecting military demand for blind obedience onto the American people.
LOL!
You stepped in it so bad, now you are pretending you can read minds????? A patriotic American who understands the Constitution, you know that ancient piece of paper you Progs want destroyed, KNOWS that questioning the government IS PARAMOUNT to our Freedom and Liberty!
I know, it's a hard concept for Totalitarians to grasp......
No mind reading required. This is an except from a speech Gen Kelly made 4 days after his son's death, speaking about those who "support the troops, but not the Iraq war".
"Their struggle is your struggle," Kelly said, according to a video of his remarks.
"They disdain those who claim to support them but not the cause that takes their innocence, their limbs, and their lives. As a democracy … we must support them. I know it doesn't apply to anyone in this room today, but if anyone thinks you can somehow thank them for their service, and not support the cause for which they fight–our country–then these people are lying to themselves and rationalizing away something in their own lives, but, more importantly, they are slighting our warriors and mocking their commitment to this nation."
freebeacon.com...
originally posted by: windword
a reply to: matafuchs
Kelly just lost the respect and moral authority that had been projected on him. He is exposed as the Trump lap dog that he is, prostrating himself before the media.
Why are you using a right wing rag to support your argument? Guess it is fitting for the hole you have dug?
originally posted by: windword
a reply to: seeker1963
Why are you using a right wing rag to support your argument? Guess it is fitting for the hole you have dug?
No, I'm using a verbatim quote from Kelly, that proves my point. No mind reading necessary. This is why the military combat generals were not meant to oversee civilian governmental issues.
originally posted by: windword
a reply to: pavil
That maybe true, but if (not when) you are one of the officers sent to the door to notify his parents of his death, is what you're going to tell them, that he had no expectation of survival?
This is why the military combat generals were not meant to oversee civilian governmental issues.
originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
Unfortunately this smear attempt was strong enough to entrench itself in the dung that some people call brains for long enough, that they will continue to fight for it despite its smell.
originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
Unfortunately this smear attempt was strong enough to entrench itself in the dung that some people call brains for long enough, that they will continue to fight for it despite its smell.
originally posted by: windword
a reply to: seeker1963
Why are you using a right wing rag to support your argument? Guess it is fitting for the hole you have dug?
No, I'm using a verbatim quote from Kelly, that proves my point. No mind reading necessary. This is why the military combat generals were not meant to oversee civilian governmental issues.