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Playboy Features First Transgender Playmate

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posted on Oct, 20 2017 @ 07:48 AM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask

originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

You, a confirmed cisgendered heterosexual male cannot "tell" the difference in this model, i.e. you don't look at her and think, "well, that's a guy pretending to be a woman."

I would guess that's a big part of the reasoning behind making her a model in Playboy, along with some admitted "virtue signaling" that it's okay to appreciate trans* women models as well.




Lol brother basically everything you just said is Greek to me lol but yeah I think she looks female and attractive st that
But it's a dude. Right? You keep calling him a she. But he's not a she, he's a dude with tits. That you find attractive. Which makes you gay. You're the one mad that we're calling you gay. I'm fine that your gay.


No it doesn’t , she looks female to me and attractive at that ....if to me she looks female and attractive that pretty much makes me the opposite of gay


Not that you need backup from a gay guy, but yeah, you're exactly right.

You're a man attracted to a woman; that's what we call straight.


Lol hey man common sense is always welcome whoever it comes from ...

I kinda thought that too, I thought if you were attracted to the female form that made you straight, apparently there are even more stipulations than I thought !!!
edit on 10/20/2017 by ManBehindTheMask because: (no reason given)




posted on Oct, 20 2017 @ 07:49 AM
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originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: SailorJerry

originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

You, a confirmed cisgendered heterosexual male cannot "tell" the difference in this model, i.e. you don't look at her and think, "well, that's a guy pretending to be a woman."

I would guess that's a big part of the reasoning behind making her a model in Playboy, along with some admitted "virtue signaling" that it's okay to appreciate trans* women models as well.



Lol brother basically everything you just said is Greek to me lol but yeah I think she looks female and attractive st that
But it's a dude. Right? You keep calling him a she. But he's not a she, he's a dude with tits. That you find attractive. Which makes you gay. You're the one mad that we're calling you gay. I'm fine that your gay.


How does finding someone he things is a woman attractive, make him gay? That doesnt make sense at all. Seems like youre projecting in order to either TROLL, or just be a judgemental ass.

Maybe youre the one thats gay and because youre so scared of your sexuality youre projecting on everyone else in this forum
Lol, you'll have to try a more sophisticated argument that.


Actually, their argument is spot on you just can't dispute it logically.



posted on Oct, 20 2017 @ 07:50 AM
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a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

There really aren't.

The other member is trying to deny the reality of different gender identities by focusing on anatomy.



posted on Oct, 20 2017 @ 07:51 AM
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originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask
...that pretty much makes me the opposite of gay


Shhhh! What's that? Do I hear show tunes playing at your house in the background?

I wish MBTM would come out of the closet, and when you do tell Tom, John and R Kelly to come out too.



......but....I like show tunes....and “the Bird Cage” was a fantastic movie....

(Sigh) now I’m gonna have to tell my girl I’m questioning my sexuality ....and just when I thought another car payment was enoug this month
edit on 10/20/2017 by ManBehindTheMask because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 20 2017 @ 07:51 AM
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originally posted by: Skywatcher2011
Hugh Hephner is rolling in his grave right now...


I doubt it very much , hugh hefner was a libertarian and believed in freedom and justice for all
he fought the civil rights movement by allowing black artists to perform on his tv show despite , members in the south saying they would boycott his magazine etc
Hugh also believed in pushing the boundaries of what is accepted by society in terms of sex and sexual relations.

So having a trans female in the magazine wouldnt have been an issue for him



posted on Oct, 20 2017 @ 07:52 AM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

There really aren't.

The other member is trying to deny the reality of different gender identities by focusing on anatomy.
Your gender identity has nothing to do with your actual gender. Does this person have XX chromosomes, or XY chromosomes?



posted on Oct, 20 2017 @ 07:53 AM
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a reply to: Gryphon66

are you talking about me?

im not denying people can feel like they are a man or a woman and have different sexual organs.


but the guy asked how i can tell this person is genetically a man, XX/XY chromosomes have nothing to do with how you FEEL about you gender.

i answered his question how i can tell because of biology, is that not a good enough answer for you?



posted on Oct, 20 2017 @ 07:53 AM
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originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask

originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

You, a confirmed cisgendered heterosexual male cannot "tell" the difference in this model, i.e. you don't look at her and think, "well, that's a guy pretending to be a woman."

I would guess that's a big part of the reasoning behind making her a model in Playboy, along with some admitted "virtue signaling" that it's okay to appreciate trans* women models as well.




Lol brother basically everything you just said is Greek to me lol but yeah I think she looks female and attractive st that
But it's a dude. Right? You keep calling him a she. But he's not a she, he's a dude with tits. That you find attractive. Which makes you gay. You're the one mad that we're calling you gay. I'm fine that your gay.


No it doesn’t , she looks female to me and attractive at that ....if to me she looks female and attractive that pretty much makes me the opposite of gay
Is that a man or a woman in those pics.?


It's not her DNA that he finds attractive.



posted on Oct, 20 2017 @ 07:53 AM
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originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

There really aren't.

The other member is trying to deny the reality of different gender identities by focusing on anatomy.
Your gender identity has nothing to do with your actual gender. Does this person have XX chromosomes, or XY chromosomes?


You're talking about biological sex, not gender, or gender identity. Let's see if I can put it other terms ...

Tell me, whatever your orientation, are you only attracted to the genitalia of another person? Do you do a DNA test before you get "turned on"?
edit on 20-10-2017 by Gryphon66 because: Noted



posted on Oct, 20 2017 @ 07:54 AM
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a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

if the bird cage was that robin williams movie....it was pretty good



posted on Oct, 20 2017 @ 07:55 AM
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I think some of you are just getting lost here.

We are talking about a model in a porn mag.
Ink on paper, so chromosomes or history don't matter a damn. All that matters is whether the person sitting in their den with this grumble mag in their hands finds the particular arrangement of ink on paper in this case attractive enough to flick one off.

Gender identity doesn't come into it.

Now, if you are lying to yourself about whether you find this particular shoot attractive because of something someone else told you....well, aren't you just short changing yourself and being ever so fake?



posted on Oct, 20 2017 @ 07:56 AM
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originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

There really aren't.

The other member is trying to deny the reality of different gender identities by focusing on anatomy.
Your gender identity has nothing to do with your actual gender. Does this person have XX chromosomes, or XY chromosomes?


Except if they passed you on the street you wouldn’t know the difference



posted on Oct, 20 2017 @ 07:57 AM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

There really aren't.

The other member is trying to deny the reality of different gender identities by focusing on anatomy.
Your gender identity has nothing to do with your actual gender. Does this person have XX chromosomes, or XY chromosomes?


You're talking about biological sex, not gender, or gender identity. Let's see if I can put it other terms ...

Tell me, whatever your orientation, are you only attracted to the genitalia of another person? Do you do a DNA test before you get "turned on"?
I think you've been watching too much Bill Nye. All of the gender politics in the world will not change peoples chromosomes. To pretend otherwise is just pretending. Is that a man in those pictures or is that a woman in those pictures?



posted on Oct, 20 2017 @ 07:58 AM
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a reply to: penroc3

but you know you cant the pictures I posted of her, there is no way you would think she was a man, had it even come up at all.


If I would have sent you those pics and said "hey this is a girl im talking to , shes pretty cute" you would NEVER have thought she was a male and you know it.
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posted on Oct, 20 2017 @ 07:58 AM
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originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask

originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

There really aren't.

The other member is trying to deny the reality of different gender identities by focusing on anatomy.
Your gender identity has nothing to do with your actual gender. Does this person have XX chromosomes, or XY chromosomes?


Except if they passed you on the street you wouldn’t know the difference
I can paint the brick wall to look like a forest scape, but it's still just a brick wall.



posted on Oct, 20 2017 @ 07:58 AM
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a reply to: SailorJerry

fine, you're right.



posted on Oct, 20 2017 @ 07:59 AM
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originally posted by: SailorJerry
a reply to: penroc3

but you know you cant the pictures I posted of her, there is no way you would think she was a man, had it even come up at all.


If I would have sent you those pics and said "hey this is a girl im talking to , shes pretty cute" you would NEVER have thought she was a male and you know it.
I would just assume you were naïve, and gay



posted on Oct, 20 2017 @ 07:59 AM
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originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask

originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

There really aren't.

The other member is trying to deny the reality of different gender identities by focusing on anatomy.
Your gender identity has nothing to do with your actual gender. Does this person have XX chromosomes, or XY chromosomes?


Except if they passed you on the street you wouldn’t know the difference
I can paint the brick wall to look like a forest scape, but it's still just a brick wall.


Cool analogy , still doesn’t address the topic



posted on Oct, 20 2017 @ 08:00 AM
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originally posted by: SprocketUK
I think some of you are just getting lost here.

We are talking about a model in a porn mag.
Ink on paper, so chromosomes or history don't matter a damn. All that matters is whether the person sitting in their den with this grumble mag in their hands finds the particular arrangement of ink on paper in this case attractive enough to flick one off.

Gender identity doesn't come into it.

Now, if you are lying to yourself about whether you find this particular shoot attractive because of something someone else told you....well, aren't you just short changing yourself and being ever so fake?
You are calling me fake, while you are pretending that that dude is a hot chick.



posted on Oct, 20 2017 @ 08:01 AM
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originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

There really aren't.

The other member is trying to deny the reality of different gender identities by focusing on anatomy.
Your gender identity has nothing to do with your actual gender. Does this person have XX chromosomes, or XY chromosomes?


You're talking about biological sex, not gender, or gender identity. Let's see if I can put it other terms ...

Tell me, whatever your orientation, are you only attracted to the genitalia of another person? Do you do a DNA test before you get "turned on"?
I think you've been watching too much Bill Nye. All of the gender politics in the world will not change peoples chromosomes. To pretend otherwise is just pretending. Is that a man in those pictures or is that a woman in those pictures?


Ah, now the desperate segue to other topics ... let's get back to the matter at hand: do you have to see others genitalia or check their DNA before you are attracted to them, or not?

It should be a fairly straightforward question ... so to speak.



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