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Vegas Shooting: shooters spotted on roof next to stage, Evidence and proof

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posted on Oct, 19 2017 @ 04:49 AM
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I've seen tons of footage but only 2 videos really show something many people have been missing, let's jump right into it..

in the first video, filmed on the 48th floor above the suspected Paddock in the Mandalay bay, this video i captures 3 times muzzle flash coming from the roof on the right side of the stage facing the crowd, what appear to be a half moon looking building.




Here is an aerial view of the building in question from google earth.





1st video,


1st muzzle flash from roof paused at exactly 9 seconds on the video



2nd flash from roof exactly at 30 seconds on the video



3rd and most clear flash from roof, 52-54 secs of video, it's after the girl says wtf is that



Now for the first video images don't really do much justice, if you look at the video at the times posted then you can clearly see the flashes coming from that roof.


Now let's move on the second video, this one is more important as what appears to be a masked man dressed in all black is spotted on the roof of the building in question..

Second Video





posted on Oct, 19 2017 @ 04:54 AM
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Contiued


From 4:05-4:09 on the top right of the video you can see a figure standing on what appears to be stairs to access the roof, he might be a lookout if you zoom in and play it frame by frame this figure is moving.


Image of possible shooter/lookout.. 4:05-4:09 video




Second image of second video shows a masked man in all black crouching and moving along the roof , video mark 4:53-4:56 , video shows very clear




Thoughts, this shooter(s) on the roof can be using suppressed guns,that's why no one is looking in that direction the shooting from the Mandalay is to attract their attention to that direction. I feel like this is 1 shooter caught, can there be more? was it a setup, please let me know your thoughts



posted on Oct, 19 2017 @ 04:58 AM
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also note, for the first video, go full screen, from 0:19 to 0:26 you can see a figure moving on the room from right to left, look very closely, also note he stops right on the top of the most lit window below him


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posted on Oct, 19 2017 @ 05:07 AM
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Silenced weapons dont sound like they do on the movies... they are not completely silent.

Those flashes are from some idiot taking photos or video with his cell phone, most likely with the auto flash turned on.
Them being on those roof tops would indicate to me that they are workers at the concert...



posted on Oct, 19 2017 @ 05:12 AM
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That building has a viewing platform ontop for concert goers by the look of it.
Same with the identical structure on the opposite side.



posted on Oct, 19 2017 @ 05:29 AM
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My first thought was:
Wouldn´t somebody of the people directly in front of that building see where the shots are coming from? They even run into the direction of that building, to take cover, as it seems.
Or maybe to stop the shooter?

There is definitely a man on the roof, but the pic of him, before climbing up to the roof, it doesn´t look as if he is masked. At least for me it looks not like a masked man.

And the muzzle flashs could be the flashlight of a spyPhone, while taking pictures.
The man could have been just somebody who wanted to hear/see the concert without paying, and then shtf and he took pictures of the chaos unfolding beneath him.

He is just to good to see, a shooter would hide himself on the roof and you wouldn´t see him in the video.
Just some thoughts.

On the other side, we all know that the whole official story stinks...
But with this event it will be like with all the other curious events before, we all know that something is really wrong, but we will never get real evidence. Because the puppetmasetrs of such events are to good incovering up their tracks, in forming, creating the "reality", as they need it.

You know, nobody knew that the japanese were coming for Pearl Harbor... L H Oswlad shot Kennedy, all alone... Muslims with carpet knives hijacked planes they never could fly and flew manoeuvres that were almost impossible, even for real pilots that were at least able to fly single engine sport planes... "U"S Special Forced killed Bin Laden and threw him into the sea, without taking any evidence like DNA samples for example, to present them to the public, etc. etc.

The ones that write the history books are creating the reality people later believe to.
And these people have an elastic relationship with the truth, with the real reality!

We all will know forever that something is wrong with all those events, but we will never be able to prove it.

edit on 19 10 2017 by DerBeobachter because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 19 2017 @ 05:46 AM
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a reply to: DerBeobachter


I don't know what's worse.... being asleep and hopeless, or being awake and helpless....



posted on Oct, 19 2017 @ 05:47 AM
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originally posted by: oddnutz
That building has a viewing platform ontop for concert goers by the look of it.
Same with the identical structure on the opposite side.


By the looks of it? So you don't know.

I highly doubt the public are allowed up there. Imagine the lawsuits if someone fell off.



posted on Oct, 19 2017 @ 05:58 AM
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a reply to: NotFooledOct1

How did the shooter get through the gates?

I mean, you do know that that half circle building is inside the festival grounds, right?



posted on Oct, 19 2017 @ 06:16 AM
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a reply to: Chadwickus

Good question. I guess it depends who was running the security at the event. I'm not saying the guy is shooting but there is definitely someone up there and they're not wearing a security uniform.



posted on Oct, 19 2017 @ 06:19 AM
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That would be my question too, how do we know these are muzzleflashes and not camera phone flashes?


Would a highly trained sniper team not use muzzle flash suppressors? If they were using sound supressors, surely they're also using flash suppressors?



posted on Oct, 19 2017 @ 06:29 AM
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Got to give him credit for taking the time to look at these videos in this manner. A lot more People should do that. Its a great way to highlight Things that could be important to see.


When it comes to this image: I dont think he is a shooter. Here is why:

- If i was going to shoot from that position i would not dress in black. And stand in front of a white wall.
- I would not do so this Close to a gate where there are People looking towards the fairground.
- If something goes wrong i would have to expose my self to the crowd.



THe other image of the person clibing the stairs to get to the rooftop is probably doing so to get a better view of the shooting. He doesnt know he is in great danger up there.


If i was going to shot up the crowd i would do it from the stage. No one is going to evacuate through stage. It is barricated to keep the spectators away at a safe distance. The stage is also elevated and gives you a good view of everything. The stages also provides cover, and the lights are focused on the spectators. You can also dress in black and no one would see you backstage.




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posted on Oct, 19 2017 @ 06:33 AM
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a reply to: Painterz

Suppressors still flash, just not as much.


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posted on Oct, 19 2017 @ 06:54 AM
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originally posted by: NotFooledOct1
also note, for the first video, go full screen, from 0:19 to 0:26 you can see a figure moving on the room from right to left, look very closely, also note he stops right on the top of the most lit window below him



What room are you talking about?



posted on Oct, 19 2017 @ 07:00 AM
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originally posted by: Painterz
That would be my question too, how do we know these are muzzleflashes and not camera phone flashes?


Would a highly trained sniper team not use muzzle flash suppressors? If they were using sound supressors, surely they're also using flash suppressors?

A sound suppressor cuts flash down to almost nothing.
Flash hiders do cut the flash, but the flash is still noticeable.
One of the biggest factors when a noise suppressor is NOT used is barrel length. The shorter the barrel, the bigger the flash.



posted on Oct, 19 2017 @ 07:01 AM
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Very good observations of the video and I like your thinking. Obviously can't say for sure who the guy is or what he is doing?



posted on Oct, 19 2017 @ 07:36 AM
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I've never been shot at before, but at 5:05 - 5:12ish you can hear what i'm assuming as rounds "whizzing" by the guy, then hear the shots a second later. Not really relevant to the OP, but I know if that would have been me, my booty hole would have been squeezed a little tighter.

The first few shots I hear in the 2nd video, sounds to me like a high powered bolt action rifle.

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posted on Oct, 19 2017 @ 07:48 AM
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Actually there's 2 figures at the 4:53 mark, the second barely poking their head up. Not sure if it's people wearing black or if it's their shadows. If you go frame by frame you do see what appears to be someone crouched in a firing position though there are no flashes or shots. Much of the firing is wild as you can hear it all over the place, the sharp cracks you hear is actually bullets passing by your ear above the sound barrier, the sharper the crack (the higher the pitch) the closer it is to your ear.

You can go through Youtube frame by frame using the . and , keys to go forward or backwards.



posted on Oct, 19 2017 @ 07:59 AM
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a reply to: Tekaran

A Ruger maybe? Could the missing gun be the smoking gun?



posted on Oct, 19 2017 @ 08:06 AM
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So the first film is from 48th floor of the Mandalay! ??
so the gun mans room is just below them ?

So Why is the gun shots so quiet?
No way are the shots coming from just below them.

as for the man below on the roof.
the flashes dont mach the gun shots at all.

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