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BREAKING: Puerto Rican Secretary Of State Blows Whistle On Hurricane Relief Fraud, Finds Unopened US

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posted on Oct, 18 2017 @ 12:54 PM
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with all that being said and seeing how it's after 12:00Pm here i think i'll have a brd( beer ready to drink)




posted on Oct, 18 2017 @ 01:00 PM
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a reply to: hounddoghowlie

Obviously. at least in the pic you brought, the boxes appear waterlogged, too. Instead of being distributed, they are stored open to the elements, long enough to begin rotting.




posted on Oct, 18 2017 @ 01:01 PM
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PR leadership literally let their own people starve just to spite Trump and score brownie points with the liberal media and political left. They want socialism... this a taste of it first hand.





posted on Oct, 18 2017 @ 01:14 PM
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a reply to: theantediluvian

yes i guess i did, my bad.

i'm getting the impression from all that i'm reading about this that they were loaded some where that way and left out.
there was one post on the twitter account that gave me the impression that some stuff may have been shipped in open containers. i was going to do another screen shot of it, but now it looks as if the twitter page had been change within the last hour and it is not there, is that a common thing. like i said i don't use it and hardly evet read anything from it.

at any rate i doubt that the trailer in the video was the one that it came in, as many mre's and supplies the U. S. government has shipped all over the world, they wouldn't use a trailer or container that is a flimsy as that one looked, no matter what alphabet agency shipped it.

as i said it all depends on who, what, when, where, and why on who should answer for it.

excuse while i go finish my brd before it gets above optimal storage temperature.



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posted on Oct, 18 2017 @ 01:14 PM
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a reply to: Sillyolme

You and I know they don't pay anywhere enough in Federal taxes to offset the burden of their outrageous billions in debt taken on just to keep the lights on. (which are now off), nor do they pay anywhere near enough to offset the cost of rebuilding their infrastructure.

You need to do some serious research into the economic debacle that IS Puerto Rico before firing off ignorant one-liners!

Here, I'll give you some assistance: money.cnn.com...


The island is already deep in a years-long debt debacle spurred by mismanaged funds, archaic energy policies and a struggling economy.



Puerto Rico's government owes $74 billion to bondholders, and an additional $50 billion in pension obligations to teachers and almost all other government employees. In May, it filed for the largest municipal bankruptcy in U.S. history. Meanwhile, Puerto Rico faces another long-term problem: Many residents are moving from the island for the mainland United States, leaving it with few skilled workers to handle the rebuilding and development process.



posted on Oct, 18 2017 @ 01:18 PM
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a reply to: Flatfish

I think you're correct, although I don't recall the exact circumstances. Truthfully, "Congress" of the Government of the Plutocracy doesn't want Puerto Rico; they don't want to have to take on their problems or their debts. Plus, the population is seeing a mass migration OUT of Puerto Rico. Of course the other problem is that what do the flag makers do with the 51st Star? State hood is a lose/lose for both the US and Puerto Rico.....there's just no "there there".

From CNN:

Puerto Rico's government owes $74 billion to bondholders, and an additional $50 billion in pension obligations to teachers and almost all other government employees. In May, it filed for the largest municipal bankruptcy in U.S. history. Meanwhile, Puerto Rico faces another long-term problem: Many residents are moving from the island for the mainland United States, leaving it with few skilled workers to handle the rebuilding and development process.



posted on Oct, 18 2017 @ 01:20 PM
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originally posted by: Agit8dChop
a reply to: ElectricUniverse


... now what group of people would be so heartless?




Politicians in general?
This time the democrats next time perhaps the republicans I have seen both sides stoop pretty low over the years in their quest to one up each other.
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posted on Oct, 18 2017 @ 01:23 PM
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originally posted by: Flatfish

I worked as a longshoreman for 33yrs loading and unloading shipping containers, this is NOT a shipping container.

My best guess is that this is an area on the tarmac where they have partitioned an area off with temporary partitioning panels. Maybe it’s being done in order to segregate the relief supplies destined for different areas of the island, who knows?

The one thing I do know is that the supplies in question are NOT in a dumpster or shipping container.
Hello brother, or should I say brother form another mother since I'm on the West Coast. Have you heard that both ILA and ILWU are jointly sending people down to Puerto Rice to help out. After all it sounds like they have a huge logistics problem and need help unloading and transporting aid. It is nice to see Unions stepping up to help out our American hermanos y hermanas.



posted on Oct, 18 2017 @ 01:29 PM
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a reply to: intrptr



Obviously. at least in the pic you brought, the boxes appear waterlogged, too. Instead of being distributed, they are stored open to the elements, long enough to begin rotting.


and if you read that post of mine i said that mre's are in sealed pouches that are in vacuum sealed aluminum lined pouches called a tri-laminate retort pouch,that can last for years.

i also posted later what the USDA says about their storage,which says they can last a month in the desert at a120 degrees for a month. and 7 years at 60 degrees.

again i also posted later that even in a open metal container, the metal gets hot in the sun and so does the contents, and it's a 50 50 chance on whether they went bad.

in order to verify whether not they are bad or good you would have to open each and every one of the pouches to see if they went bad. then you could only serve the open pouches in a short window of time.

plus we don't know who ordered them to sit, or if they were wet when they arrived. questions that need to be answered,
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posted on Oct, 18 2017 @ 01:36 PM
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originally posted by: Devino

originally posted by: Flatfish

I worked as a longshoreman for 33yrs loading and unloading shipping containers, this is NOT a shipping container.

My best guess is that this is an area on the tarmac where they have partitioned an area off with temporary partitioning panels. Maybe it’s being done in order to segregate the relief supplies destined for different areas of the island, who knows?

The one thing I do know is that the supplies in question are NOT in a dumpster or shipping container.
Hello brother, or should I say brother form another mother since I'm on the West Coast. Have you heard that both ILA and ILWU are jointly sending people down to Puerto Rice to help out. After all it sounds like they have a huge logistics problem and need help unloading and transporting aid. It is nice to see Unions stepping up to help out our American hermanos y hermanas.


Hello brother. I am fourth generation ILA and proud of it.

No, I hadn't heard about the aid effort being put forth by our nation's longshoremen but it doesn't surprise me one bit.

Longshoremen are family oriented and they never shy away from extending a hand to those in need.

Makes me proud too, union proud!



posted on Oct, 18 2017 @ 01:38 PM
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damn i just read my posts, messing up more than usual better back off the brd's



posted on Oct, 18 2017 @ 01:42 PM
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originally posted by: hounddoghowlie

ETA: did you note the plastic to go box that looks like it has lettuce and tomato in it he pulled out of one. humm... i wonder if that is fit to serve/hand out after being in a wet box for who knows how long.
You can see lettuce and tomato? What image are you looking at?

Have you ever had an MRE? Actually that question is redundant since it's obvious from your post that you have not. Those boxes look like civilian aid MREs which are different than military MREs. I have had boxes of both. Military issue MREs come in wax coated boxes and usually have a higher calorie count per meal.

Even if the boxes get wet and are destroyed the meals inside are vacuum sealed in a very tough plastic bag. That helps give them a long shelf life.
What Is an MRE?



posted on Oct, 18 2017 @ 01:42 PM
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originally posted by: hounddoghowlie
a reply to: intrptr



Obviously. at least in the pic you brought, the boxes appear waterlogged, too. Instead of being distributed, they are stored open to the elements, long enough to begin rotting.


and if you read that post of mine i said that mre's are in sealed pouches that are in vacuum sealed aluminum lined pouches called a tri-laminate retort pouch,that can last for years.

i also posted later what the USDA says about their storage,which says they can last a month in the desert at a120 degrees for a month. and 7 years at 60 degrees.

again i also posted later that in a open metal container, the metal gets hot in the sun and so does the contents, and it's a 50 50 chance on whether they went bad.

in order to verify whether not they are bad or good you would have to open each and every one of the pouches to see if they went bad. then you could only serve them in a short window of time.

I read your post, am familiar wth how MREs are wrapped. They appear to not have been distributed, instead sitting there uncovered long enough to get rained on.

Same thing happened in Haiti after the earthquake. The local 'overlords' hoarded the aid packages, instead of distributing them.


Thats the story here too, not how long MREs remain edible.



posted on Oct, 18 2017 @ 01:43 PM
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a reply to: TonyS

I know that Puerto Rico's debt sounds pretty bad, but just for comparison, how much is 18 trillion divided by 50?

That's 18 thousand billion divided by 50, as in states.

Do you see where I'm going with this?

All of a sudden, Puerto Rico doesn't look so bad, now does it?


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posted on Oct, 18 2017 @ 01:47 PM
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originally posted by: hounddoghowlie
a reply to: intrptr



Obviously. at least in the pic you brought, the boxes appear waterlogged, too. Instead of being distributed, they are stored open to the elements, long enough to begin rotting.


and if you read that post of mine i said that mre's are in sealed pouches that are in vacuum sealed aluminum lined pouches called a tri-laminate retort pouch,that can last for years.

i also posted later what the USDA says about their storage,which says they can last a month in the desert at a120 degrees for a month. and 7 years at 60 degrees.

again i also posted later that even in a open metal container, the metal gets hot in the sun and so does the contents, and it's a 50 50 chance on whether they went bad.

in order to verify whether not they are bad or good you would have to open each and every one of the pouches to see if they went bad. then you could only serve the open pouches in a short window of time.

plus we don't know who ordered them to sit, or if they were wet when they arrived. questions that need to be answered,
Sorry I may have misunderstood your post. It appears you do know what MREs are. I don't think water will damage the meals but as for high temperatures I don't know.



posted on Oct, 18 2017 @ 01:49 PM
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a reply to: Devino
watch the video on the twitter link at the source. you can see him pull out a clear plastic to go box like you would buy from a store.

i was a in the Corps and live on the Gulf Coast i have seen and eaten many MRE"s and before that MCI also know as c rats, so yea i know a little about them.


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posted on Oct, 18 2017 @ 01:54 PM
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originally posted by: intrptr
I read your post, am familiar wth how MREs are wrapped. They appear to not have been distributed, instead sitting there uncovered long enough to get rained on.
You do understand that Puerto Rico is in crisis, right? It sounds like they don't have the infrastructure to properly store and transport aid that is incoming. That is why they NEED help! It also rains down there so things are going to get wet. It's okay, a little rain won't hurt those MREs.



posted on Oct, 18 2017 @ 02:03 PM
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a reply to: intrptr


then why did you make it a point to say just this, and nothing else.


Obviously. at least in the pic you brought, the boxes appear waterlogged, too. Instead of being distributed, they are stored open to the elements, long enough to begin rotting.


if you weren't trying to contradict my post why didn't you say this in the first post.



I read your post, am familiar wth how MREs are wrapped. They appear to not have been distributed, instead sitting there uncovered long enough to get rained on. Same thing happened in Haiti after the earthquake. The local 'overlords' hoarded the aid packages, instead of distributing them. Thats the story here too, not how long MREs remain edible.



posted on Oct, 18 2017 @ 02:05 PM
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a reply to: Devino

no problem.



posted on Oct, 18 2017 @ 02:05 PM
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a reply to: Devino


You do understand that Puerto Rico is in crisis, right? It sounds like they don't have the infrastructure to properly store and transport aid that is incoming.


For about two minutes. Starving people will crawl to a food and water source.

Edit: I just watched the video, I see a covered truck parked alongside, a building in the background, a car drive down a road in the background, plenty of people standing there, and this stuff just sitting and rotting. Its being hoarded.

Crisis is compounded by hoarding behavior.


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