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Missing Mandalay Bay Guard Jesus Campos On Ellen In LA For His First Interview On 10/18

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posted on Oct, 18 2017 @ 12:46 PM
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originally posted by: face23785
a reply to: fiverx313

There is no point, they're hedging their bets. They want to insinuate there's a conspiracy, but they're "just asking questions" so when their conspiracies get proven wrong they can claim they never said it was for certain.


well, i guess we've all got our little ways to pass the time :/




posted on Oct, 18 2017 @ 12:47 PM
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a reply to: fiverx313

Because I'm not convinced of the authenticity of the award ceremony pics. The EXIF data shows a date one day prior to the alleged award and the coordinates place the photo being taken somewhere in the Monte Carlo, not the specified venue of the ceremony. Additionally, the venue was shown to have been remodeled in June of 2017, so the decor in the Campos photo should match the renovation... yet the decor is pre 6/2017. I find that incredibly odd, don't you? Hence why I'm looking at all inconsistencies.



posted on Oct, 18 2017 @ 12:51 PM
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i don't find it odd. exif data can be wrong. remodels can be incomplete. you're not there to see the whole damn building yourself, are you?

i don't understand what would even be the point of faking something like that? what does it gain anyone?
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posted on Oct, 18 2017 @ 01:06 PM
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originally posted by: fiverx313
i don't find it odd. exif data can be wrong. remodels can be incomplete. you're not there to see the whole damn building yourself, are you?

i don't understand what would even be the point of faking something like that? what does it gain anyone?


EXIF data could be wrong, but what are the odds of the Monte Carlo showing up as the location of the photo? I mean, it's another MGM property - that's one hell of a coincidence.

Sure maybe there's a perfectly reasonable explanation, I'd like to think there is. But it just seems like there are a lot of inconsistencies when it comes to this shooting and this is just another example of it. I mean, we are on a conspiracy site and you are interested in the shooting. I'd have to assume something about the event doesn't add up in your opinion otherwise why even take the time to delve into the matter?



posted on Oct, 18 2017 @ 01:12 PM
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What a by the book way of
relaxing the concerns of the public.
Ellen is the perfect host because
of the trust people have in her.
If Ellen says there's nothing more to Vegas
it'll put many fires out.
But where's the beef?
How about address the MANY personal videos and stories about
multiple shooters ? Anyone with ears can hear in video recordings
the official story is hiding this fact.
edit on 18-10-2017 by UnderKingsPeak because: Wendy's



posted on Oct, 18 2017 @ 01:48 PM
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originally posted by: abeverage

originally posted by: LSU0408
a reply to: jadedANDcynical

Great side by side shots... Definitely no moles on the other Campos. And his face, compared to the other, is pretty fat for only two weeks. The Campos in the video was very standoffish. It was easy to tell that he didn't wanna be there. He's either an imposter or guilty of Paddock's death, and he's ready to skip town and go south of the border. If he talks too much, or to a real reporter then he'll give himself away. Doesn't seem to handle pressure well.


What if this was taken 2 weeks ago? He is slimmer now cause of stress weight loss...just a suggestion until I can find the real recording date!


Very possible... I was thinking it was before the Ellen interview.



posted on Oct, 18 2017 @ 01:51 PM
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I heard they were not paid money but given season tickets to their favorite sports team


originally posted by: Chadwickus
a reply to: shawmanfromny



Ellen probably promised him money and a new car.


They may have offered it, but he didn't take a cent apparently.



posted on Oct, 18 2017 @ 02:12 PM
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interesting point...but they would put makeup on them to be on tv so they covered them up



originally posted by: AndyFromMichigan
a reply to: jaws1975

Good catch! The guy on Ellen doesn't have those moles. It's not the same guy in both pictures!



posted on Oct, 18 2017 @ 02:25 PM
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originally posted by: djz3ro

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: shawmanfromny

On Ellen. Yep, no agenda here, move along.



What's the deal with Ellen? From here in the UK her and all her fans seem like some shiny happy people cult. When I realised he was on Ellen I knew there was an agenda behind it...


But where should he give an interview. Which interviewer doesn't have an agenda? I would say Ellen is as good as anyone else?



posted on Oct, 18 2017 @ 02:37 PM
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a reply to: fiverx313

His jowls were wider. I would think it took longer than 2 weeks for that part of your face to fatten up.



posted on Oct, 18 2017 @ 02:40 PM
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originally posted by: face23785
a reply to: fiverx313

There is no point, they're hedging their bets. They want to insinuate there's a conspiracy, but they're "just asking questions" so when their conspiracies get proven wrong they can claim they never said it was for certain.


So which one of the stories, as told by authorities, do you believe? In my opinion, at this point it's laziness to look past a conspiracy because nothing adds up and the story keeps changing. Some things may be a little overboard, but this story has gotten more sloppier by the day.



posted on Oct, 18 2017 @ 02:50 PM
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Dear ATS Readers, Writers,

JaeG14 said:



How is the band aid negligible? He had a huge band aid on his forehead, that means there's likely visible bruising or abrasions.


It was covering up his cloned Gorbachev purple birthmark. (Just a bad joke, sorry)

I find the ties of Ellen to MGM more interesting, and perhaps telling. I didn't get to see the video, at it was blocked by the time I clicked on it. But how was his walking? Show "any" sign of a limp?

Too bad someone can't do an ear profile of both of these pictures somehow.. The ear would change little, despite weight gains.

If it really is Campos, then I am very glad he didn't get disappeared for good.

Pravdaseeker


a reply to: JaeG14


edit on 18-10-2017 by pravdaseeker because: incomplete



posted on Oct, 18 2017 @ 03:02 PM
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just a suggestion until I can find the real recording date!


From a post I just made on another thread:

This was apparently recorded this last Sunday. This was posted on Reddit Saturday until it was pulled by its author:


Guys, I’m a subscriber here and love reading all this, but I can confirm he’s not dead, as he is going to be on a very high-profile afternoon talk show tomorrow. I work at the show and we got the production schedule on Saturday morning. He’s most likely laying low because I’m sure we paid him an obscene amount of money to be his first/possibly exclusive interview. He probably disappeared while they were finishing up the paperwork, or once he saw our offer ghosted on anything less. He’s taping with us tomorrow afternoon, along with Stephen Schuck, and it will air Wednesday, 10/18. Keep an eye out for promos tomorrow when I believe it will become public knowledge, in the “tomorrow on —

wwwredditcom /r/conspiracy/comments/76wua6/question_what_is_the_status_of_jesus_campos/dohb0a4//


The award picture was taken 10/09/2017, so between when the award picture was taken and when the Ellen show as taped (10/15/2017), he got a lot bigger and bulkier in his frame. I know TV cameras "add 15 pounds," but it is obvious (to me) that the torso, shoulders and arms are all much bigger in the Ellen 'Campos' when compared to the award ceremony 'Campos.'

But maybe it's just my eyes going out on me?



posted on Oct, 18 2017 @ 03:05 PM
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originally posted by: LSU0408
a reply to: fiverx313

His jowls were wider. I would think it took longer than 2 weeks for that part of your face to fatten up.


Not if you are on steroids and anti-biotics.

I still think the Interview was done more than week ago and he is shedding pounds like butter...



posted on Oct, 18 2017 @ 03:06 PM
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originally posted by: JaeG14
I'd have to assume something about the event doesn't add up in your opinion otherwise why even take the time to delve into the matter?


what doesn't add up for me is when something terrible happens, people die, and other people rush to the internet to play sherlock junior with crappy internet face-matching software on bad pictures, misinterpreting digital artifacts, and thinking they're somehow uncovering a grand mystery with their brilliance.



posted on Oct, 18 2017 @ 03:19 PM
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With him being the target of Internet insanity, his biggest mistake is surfacing at all. Nuts will be stalking and doxxing him for years with wild theories and accusations and he should have stayed hidden.



posted on Oct, 18 2017 @ 03:22 PM
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originally posted by: fiverx313

originally posted by: JaeG14
I'd have to assume something about the event doesn't add up in your opinion otherwise why even take the time to delve into the matter?


what doesn't add up for me is when something terrible happens, people die, and other people rush to the internet to play sherlock junior with crappy internet face-matching software on bad pictures, misinterpreting digital artifacts, and thinking they're somehow uncovering a grand mystery with their brilliance.


And what doesn't add up to me is when my hard earned federal tax dollars go towards incompetence on the part of the investigating police and FBI team. They've changed their story numerous times and are being evasive to certain logical questions about what went down.

It's a national tragedy, add that to the fact that I personally go to Vegas a lot and often stay in the Mandalay Bay. I had friends in Vegas that weekend who endured a rough time from all that happened.I want to know exactly what happened and why and whether it was reasonable to expect that this could have been prevented given that Vegas casinos have arguably the most sophisticated surveillance systems on the planet.



posted on Oct, 18 2017 @ 03:52 PM
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originally posted by: fiverx313
i don't find it odd. exif data can be wrong. remodels can be incomplete. you're not there to see the whole damn building yourself, are you?

i don't understand what would even be the point of faking something like that? what does it gain anyone?


For people like alex jones mucho money can be made from a tragedy, that's the only gain.
If he hosted a show shilling stuff on the back of let's say gun control, where's the entertainment, where's the sales?
Making a conspiracy out of nothing while urinating on the dead, who can't sue, people will tune in, they have before and will again.



posted on Oct, 18 2017 @ 04:18 PM
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originally posted by: JaeG14
And what doesn't add up to me is when my hard earned federal tax dollars go towards incompetence on the part of the investigating police and FBI team. They've changed their story numerous times and are being evasive to certain logical questions about what went down.

It's a national tragedy, add that to the fact that I personally go to Vegas a lot and often stay in the Mandalay Bay. I had friends in Vegas that weekend who endured a rough time from all that happened.I want to know exactly what happened and why and whether it was reasonable to expect that this could have been prevented given that Vegas casinos have arguably the most sophisticated surveillance systems on the planet.


i think it's arrogant to assume that you would be provided with all the pertinent information in an ongoing investigation, or that you could yourself do a better job of responding to a crisis and then immediately issuing a nice, tight timeline that satisfies every nit-picky, weird question that comes from an internet warrior with no real experience in the field and nothing better to do.
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posted on Oct, 18 2017 @ 04:23 PM
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originally posted by: research100
I heard they were not paid money but given season tickets to their favorite sports team


originally posted by: Chadwickus
a reply to: shawmanfromny



Ellen probably promised him money and a new car.


They may have offered it, but he didn't take a cent apparently.


This is true. The Maintenance guy got a trip to watch the Colts and Campos got season tickets for the Raiders. I guess the NFL is desperate for ticket sales.



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