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FBI uncovered Russian bribery plot before Obama admin approved nuclear deal with Moscow

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posted on Oct, 19 2017 @ 02:38 PM
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a reply to: ReadingOne

LOL... yes, genius. That's how it works...

I say my source is the FBI, NSA, and CIA.... which anyone can look up.

Anonynmous Internet person says that's all fake news.

And now it's up to you to figure out which source has more weight.




posted on Oct, 19 2017 @ 02:40 PM
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originally posted by: spiritualzombie
a reply to: ReadingOne

LOL... yes, genius. That's how it works...

I say my source is the FBI, NSA, and CIA.... which anyone can look up.

Anonynmous Internet person says that's all fake news.

And now it's up to you to figure out which source has more weight.


So you're just talking out of your rear end, you say?



posted on Oct, 19 2017 @ 02:41 PM
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a reply to: spiritualzombie

FBI, CIA, NSA never said Russia meddled in the election.



posted on Oct, 19 2017 @ 02:44 PM
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originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: Wardaddy454

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: butcherguy
a reply to: Wardaddy454



John Podesta was a member of Hillary's campaign.

Not just a member, the Chairman.


And this is another example of how some of you cannot understand the nuances that make a huge difference.

Look at the link wardaddy provided. Can you read the names of the 2 people that were lobbying on behalf of the Podesta Group?

Is John Podesta's name on the list?

No, it's not.

Therefore the comparison is invalid.


John Podesta hasn't been with the company officially in some years, yet he's done work and set up meetings for the company. I wouldn't expect him to put his name on a document pertaining to Russia, especially if "Russian collusion" was plan b for an election loss.





Plan B, huh?

Keep resorting to conspiracy. Eventually, one of em will be true.


"If that F – – – ing Bastard Wins, We All Hang from Nooses!" - Hillary Clinton

Yes, if she said this, Plan B.



posted on Oct, 19 2017 @ 02:48 PM
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a reply to: ReadingOne

You need to live up to your screenname and do a little reading. My source is the consensus of the FBI, NSA, and CIA.

And if their investigations and their findings are meaningless to you, which you seem to indicate, then why are you participating in this thread?



posted on Oct, 19 2017 @ 02:49 PM
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a reply to: spiritualzombie

FBI, CIA, NSA source is crowdstrike, an amateur organization paid by DNC.



posted on Oct, 19 2017 @ 03:08 PM
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a reply to: spiritualzombie

Probably much better to focus on Clinton colluding with Russia for cold hard cash at the expense of US security.
That is the thread topic.

Has it not sunk in yet that 9 people in the company benefiting from the uranium deal all decided to contribute to the Clinton Foundation or that Billy boy got $500,000 for his speech in Russia???

You guys were harping on about Flynn getting $30k for a speech in Russia.

As for Trump, none of the intelligence agencies have said he colluded with Russia. None of his campaign members have been charged with colluding with Russia.

Trump is pitching in on the Uranium scandal, though. I rather think the made up Russia/Trump scandal is going to backfire on Dems...

edit on 19/10/2017 by UKTruth because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 19 2017 @ 03:08 PM
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originally posted by: spiritualzombie
a reply to: Wardaddy454

I wonder how they got Michael Flynn to lie about his contacts with Russia and how they got Trump Jr involved to meet a Russian lawyer for dirt on Hillary, and how did they get Trump to openly call on Russia to hack his opponent, and how did they get Jeff Sessions to meet with and lie about meeting Russians.

Such a vast conspiracy to take down Donald Trump and they even got Trump to participate in it.

Or maybe the FBI, CIA, and NSA are right, and Russia had a role in the election, and maybe all these changing stories from the Trump campaign regarding their interaction with Russians is worthy of investigation.

When the guy being investigated calls the FBI, NSA, CIA fake news -- not sure how much water that holds from a guy being investigated... who's already once paid 25 million for fraud. Not sure I believe the fraud guy.




Does Michael Flynn not being fully forthcoming mean that Trump is automatically guilty?

That Lawyer Jr. met with has ties to Hillary.

When Trump "called" on Russia to reveal the 33,000 emails, the DNC hack had already occurred.

Sessions did not lie about any Russian meetings. He said he didn't have any meetings outside of what his office allowed. Meaning personal meetings. Justice officials said Sessions met with Kislyak on Sept. 8 in his capacity as a member of the armed services panel rather than in his role as a Trump campaign surrogate.

Russia probably did have a role in the election. We've certainly meddled in other countries elections. I'd love for Facebook to release the Russian ads for Hillary and BLM.



posted on Oct, 19 2017 @ 03:09 PM
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Former Director of National intelligence James Clapper on Russia's Election Meddling.


Report on Russian hacking released by intelligence community

Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered a campaign involving covert intelligence operations and overt propaganda to undermine faith in the U.S. election, disparage Hillary Clinton and help Donald Trump’s election chances, the intelligence community concluded in a report released Friday afternoon.

source: www.cbsnews.com...



posted on Oct, 19 2017 @ 03:12 PM
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Do more reading. An educated conservative is a better conservative....

US intelligence report: Vladimir Putin 'ordered' operation to get Trump elected

Russian president Vladimir Putin interfered in the US presidential election to aid Donald Trump, according to a declassified assessment by the NSA, CIA and FBI.

www.theguardian.com...

So you either care about FBI findings or you don't. Which is it?



posted on Oct, 19 2017 @ 03:13 PM
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a reply to: spiritualzombie

Put more simply.

"The Russians tried to influence our election again, just like we try to influence others."

IF Putin was successful at swinging the election, for which there is no evidence, then the US (and the rest of the world) should be thanking him. He'd be the saviour who stopped Hillary.
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posted on Oct, 19 2017 @ 03:14 PM
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a reply to: spiritualzombie

Trump is hostile to Russia. No way this story is true. Putin prefers Hillary AKA Obama 2.0 as president. Putin and Hillary are on friendly terms.
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posted on Oct, 19 2017 @ 03:17 PM
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a reply to: Wardaddy454

Trump called on Russia to hack Hillary to prove Russia does not listen to him. It was reactive, not proactive.




posted on Oct, 19 2017 @ 03:18 PM
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originally posted by: UKTruth
a reply to: spiritualzombie

Put more simply.

"The Russians tried to influence our election again, just like we try to influence others."


Who are you attempting to defend with that statement?




posted on Oct, 19 2017 @ 03:23 PM
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originally posted by: spiritualzombie

originally posted by: UKTruth
a reply to: spiritualzombie

Put more simply.

"The Russians tried to influence our election again, just like we try to influence others."


Who are you attempting to defend with that statement?



Just pointing out the folly of the drama about Russia trying to influence an election. It's no big deal and there's no evidence either that Trump or his campaign had anything to do with it anyway.

Back to the thread topic, there appears to be real evidence of Obama's administration and Hillary dealing Uranium to Russia in the midst of a bribery scandal, the result of which was Hillary's foundation getting millions of dollars.
Hold on to your hat if the evidence reported is released.


edit on 19/10/2017 by UKTruth because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 19 2017 @ 03:24 PM
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originally posted by: ziopower
a reply to: spiritualzombie

Trump is hostile to Russia. No way this story is true. Putin prefers Hillary AKA Obama 2.0 as president. Putin and Hillary are on friendly terms.


LOL, wow. Really... you're going to opt for full retard? Okay... educate yourself...


“We assess Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered an influence campaign in 2016 aimed at the US presidential election. Russia’s goals were to undermine public faith in the US democratic process, denigrate Secretary [Hillary] Clinton, and harm her electability and potential presidency. We further assess Putin and the Russian Government developed a clear preference for President-elect Trump,” the agencies found in a long-awaited report that stands to hang over the head of the incoming Trump administration.

The report (pdf), for weeks the subject of leaks that have incensed and vexed Trump, contradicts the contention from his transition team that Russia did not prefer him in the 2016 election, as well as Trump’s insistence that the culprits behind the hacks of Democratic political figures are fundamentally unknowable.

Source: www.theguardian.com...

And the report here:
www.dni.gov...



posted on Oct, 19 2017 @ 03:25 PM
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Maybe take a look at the thread topic. The Trump / Russia collusion story is dead as a door nail.
We're on to the real collusion - between Russia and the Obama administration, including Hillary.

Don't worry, though, the Senate Judiciary Committee is now on the case - starting with the shocking report that the Obama administration DOJ put a gag order on the evidence of the bribery scandal being discussed with Congress. The House Judiciary Committee is already on the case.

www.foxnews.com...


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posted on Oct, 19 2017 @ 03:26 PM
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That is DNI's opinion. Fact is Trump is hostile to Russia. Setting up the Tanf safe zone in Syria. Shooting down Syrian jets. Cruise missile strikes on Syrian bases. Tearing up the Obama Iran nuclear deal and therefore stopping Russia's middle eastern expansion that hinges on Russia's client state Iran.

Hillary approved Russia's takeover of American uranium.

Action speaks for itself. Trump is bad for Putin. Hillary is good for Putin.



posted on Oct, 19 2017 @ 03:29 PM
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originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: spiritualzombie

originally posted by: UKTruth
a reply to: spiritualzombie

Put more simply.

"The Russians tried to influence our election again, just like we try to influence others."


Who are you attempting to defend with that statement?



Back to the thread topic, there appears to be real evidence of Obama's administration....



Based on what? Don't tell me you put any weight on FBI investigations. the FBI is all fake news remember... Can't have it both ways.

Tell me again how Russia is forgiveable because the U.S. interferes too... Anything to do with Hillary's interference in a Russian election... Just explain again your defense of Russia... lol



posted on Oct, 19 2017 @ 03:33 PM
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Since we all now care about FBI findings... here's an interesting thing that the NSA, FBI, CIA all agree on:


Russian Campaign Was Multifaceted
Moscow’s use of disclosures during the US election was unprecedented, but its influence campaign otherwise followed a longstanding Russian messaging strategy that blends covert intelligence operations—such as cyber activity—with overt efforts by Russian Government agencies, statefunded media, third-party intermediaries, and paid social media users or “trolls.”


Paid trolls... spreading disinformation... I wonder if ATS ever saw any of that.




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