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originally posted by: Irishhaf
a reply to: theultimatebelgianjoke
I would not be surprised to start see a wave of "retractions" or "corrections" hidden in micro print somewhere around the obituaries to try and salvage some of the MSM careers.
If the russians involved in the deal gave millions to the Clinton foundation that is a smoking gun.
What becomes of it remains to be seen but yyour outrright dismissal is rather odd.
Especially when i doubt Russian oligharchs decided to give away 150 million no strings attached,especially at a time the russian economy is hurting. Its possible just a llittle hard to believe.
originally posted by: RetsuUnohana
While President Trump is donating his salary of $400,000 to charity, the Clintons rake in $145,000,000 selling favors. Notice how "regressives" always cast blame onto others for the very crimes they have committed?
originally posted by: Grambler
Well it appears that hillary, holder, obama, et al were well aware of the corruption of Russian officials when they sold them uranium.
Yes you want me to prove intent before you are satisfied an investigation should begin.
Funny, I don't recall you making these claims when the investigation of trump opened.
But go on, explain to me the evidence you saw that trump took money or something and nite,fed to do russians favors. Go on show me evidence of his intent that led you to think that was a nevcessary investigation unlike this conspiracy theory here
originally posted by: Grambler
a reply to: introvert
You are a joke.
I have been calling for an investigation the whole thread. I didn't say she was guilty.
All of the info I said is true.
You were the one that said it's all just a wild conspiracy theory and there is no case here to begin with.
Now it looks like an investigation is opening.
You wanted to disparage anyone who raised these questions and act like there was no story here.
You Have outed yourself as the partisan person we all knew.
But you have done that many times over, so no surprise there.
originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: introvert
Kudos for your attempts at bringing a bit of rationality into this thread (as usual).
I couldn't get past the first of OP's three actual sentences/claims:
originally posted by: Grambler
Well it appears that hillary, holder, obama, et al were well aware of the corruption of Russian officials when they sold them uranium.
The details of the Uranium One deal have been reviewed multiple times here and the lie has been repeatedly put to the "sold uranium to the Russians" claim, and yet, here it is again. It's exhausting and pointless, but thank you for continuing to attempt to restore at least a smidgeon of the factual validity around here.
The evidence was first gathered in 2009 and 2010 but Department of Justice officials waited until 2014 to bring any charges. In between that time, President Obama's multi-agency Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States (CFIUS) gave approval to Russia's Rosatom to buy a Canadian mining company called Uranium One that controlled 20 percent of America's uranium deposits.
The committee's members at the time included former Attorney General Eric Holder and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, whose husband collected large speech fees and millions in charitable donations from Russia and other entities interested in the outcome of the decision.
Grassley dispatched letters late week to all the federal agencies whose executives served on the CFIUS when the decision was made, demanding to know whether they were aware of the FBI case before they voted.
He also questioned whether the documented corruption that was uncovered posed a national security threat that should have voided approval of the uranium deal.
"It has recently come to the Committee’s attention that employees of Rosatom were involved in a criminal enterprise involving a conspiracy to commit extortion and money laundering during the time of the CFIUS transaction," Grassley wrote in one such letter addressed to Sessions.
"The fact that Rosatom subsidiaries in the United States were under criminal investigation as a result of a U.S. intelligence operation apparently around the time CFIUS approved the Uranium One/Rosatom transaction raises questions about whether that information factored into CFIUS’ decision to approve the transaction," the chairman added.
Grassley has been one of the few congressional leaders to have consistently raised questions about the uranium deal, and in 2015 agencies told his committee they had no national security reasons to reject the Moscow approval.
The oh possible thing i said that you could possibly be mentioning is the statement that I said maybe 5he fact that people were bribing hillary made them look the other way.
You demand to know evidence and intent before an investigation, and yet with trump you fully supported it without either of this.
You say trumps connections made that investigation necessary. So trump being connected to people taking money from russians is enough to investigate him, but hillary herself getting money from Russians is not enough.
Please go on. Let everyone see just how partisan you really are.
originally posted by: Grambler
thehill.com...
Before the Obama administration approved a controversial deal in 2010 giving Moscow control of a large swath of American uranium, the FBI had gathered substantial evidence that Russian nuclear industry officials were engaged in bribery, kickbacks, extortion and money laundering designed to grow Vladimir Putin’s atomic energy business inside the United States, according to government documents and interviews.
Federal agents used a confidential U.S. witness working inside the Russian nuclear industry to gather extensive financial records, make secret recordings and intercept emails as early as 2009 that showed Moscow had compromised an American uranium trucking firm with bribes and kickbacks in violation of the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act, FBI and court documents show.
They also obtained an eyewitness account — backed by documents — indicating Russian nuclear officials had routed millions of dollars to the U.S. designed to benefit former President Bill Clinton’s charitable foundation during the time Secretary of State Hillary Clinton served on a government body that provided a favorable decision to Moscow, sources told The Hill
Well it appears that hillary, holder, obama, et al were well aware of the corruption of Russian officials when they sold them uranium.
Maybe the fact that these Russians were apparently bribing hillary with millions of dollars encouraged them to look the other way.
But I guess this is nothing compared to the Russians using Pokemon go to influence the election!
originally posted by: Taggart
originally posted by: Grambler
thehill.com...
Before the Obama administration approved a controversial deal in 2010 giving Moscow control of a large swath of American uranium, the FBI had gathered substantial evidence that Russian nuclear industry officials were engaged in bribery, kickbacks, extortion and money laundering designed to grow Vladimir Putin’s atomic energy business inside the United States, according to government documents and interviews.
Federal agents used a confidential U.S. witness working inside the Russian nuclear industry to gather extensive financial records, make secret recordings and intercept emails as early as 2009 that showed Moscow had compromised an American uranium trucking firm with bribes and kickbacks in violation of the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act, FBI and court documents show.
They also obtained an eyewitness account — backed by documents — indicating Russian nuclear officials had routed millions of dollars to the U.S. designed to benefit former President Bill Clinton’s charitable foundation during the time Secretary of State Hillary Clinton served on a government body that provided a favorable decision to Moscow, sources told The Hill
Well it appears that hillary, holder, obama, et al were well aware of the corruption of Russian officials when they sold them uranium.
Maybe the fact that these Russians were apparently bribing hillary with millions of dollars encouraged them to look the other way.
But I guess this is nothing compared to the Russians using Pokemon go to influence the election!
ATS these days
FBI investigate Obama and co = Guilty
FBI investigate Trump = Fake news
You couldn't make it up
originally posted by: keys2heaven
Wow, the energy spent in these threads trying to prove that your side and, in effect, that YOU are right. That YOU have ALL the answers. That YOU have the truth, but nobody will listen or is too stupid to comprehend.
No wonder we are so divided anymore.