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FBI uncovered Russian bribery plot before Obama admin approved nuclear deal with Moscow

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posted on Oct, 17 2017 @ 08:16 PM
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originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: SailorJerry
So, the Russians were DEFINITELY involved in some bribery and undercover shenanigans
But somehow its its COMPLETELY implausible that Russia tried to influence the election in favor of Trump?

I swear to his supporters even realize how blind and hypocritical they are?


So your take on this is that this shows how corrupt russia is, and they bribed hillary and Obama let this corrupt deal go on......

So shame on trump supporters.

Wow.


No, Im sorry you cant think critically.

My take is that for over a year hardline right wingers , Fox news, and Trump supporters have been adamant that Russia has had NO HAND WHAT SO EVER, in anything going on with our politicians, and that it was IMPOSSIBLE they could be colluding with Trump in ANY WAY, be it financial or otherwise

Now all the sudden "LOOK AT THE RUSSIANS AND HILLARY"

Its hypocritical , deaf dumb and blind BS is what it is. Im not saying this article isnt true, I am just saying that you would have to be a complete imbecile to buy this but NOT consider the fact the other is true with Trump
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posted on Oct, 17 2017 @ 08:21 PM
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The lies and corruption of the Media and the Left are unfathomable. I can't even blame citizens who have been duped by them, that much powerful propaganda being pumped into their heads 24/7 from every direction, most average people aren't going to be able to overcome an attack like that. Trump/Russia Collusion was always a hoax, like the dossier, in order to cover-up and divert attention away from the real collusion and crimes being committed.



posted on Oct, 17 2017 @ 08:24 PM
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originally posted by: SailorJerry

originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: SailorJerry
So, the Russians were DEFINITELY involved in some bribery and undercover shenanigans
But somehow its its COMPLETELY implausible that Russia tried to influence the election in favor of Trump?

I swear to his supporters even realize how blind and hypocritical they are?


So your take on this is that this shows how corrupt russia is, and they bribed hillary and Obama let this corrupt deal go on......

So shame on trump supporters.

Wow.


No, Im sorry you cant think critically.

My take is that for over a year hardline right wingers , Fox news, and Trump supporters have been adamant that Russia has had NO HAND WHAT SO EVER, in anything going on with our politicians, and that it was IMPOSSIBLE they could be colluding with Trump in ANY WAY, be it financial or otherwise

Now all the sudden "LOOK AT THE RUSSIANS AND HILLARY"

Its hypocritical , deaf dumb and blind BS is what it is. Im not saying this article isnt true, I am just saying that you would have to be a complete imbecile to buy this but NOT consider the fact the other is true with Trump


I think critically just fine.

I can't speak for all of the trump supporters you are talking about, but my take was that no doubt that russia, just like every other foreign country of means, probably tried to influence our election.

I have not seen any proof that they changed any votes, or were more successful than the ukraine, or england, or france, or china, or Israel.

I have not seen any proof or trump Russian collusion.

Yet we have an investigation into that that is growing ever more expansive and are told that it is so important because of how bad russia is.

Now i see that some of the people that were telling about this the loudest were approving uranium sales to russia, and receiving millions of dollars from companies that the fbi knew was connected to russia and bribing and extorting people.

And I see that almost all of the people on the left that screamed for the trump russia investigation are now falling all over themselves to excuse these facts and claim no investigation is needed.

That is the real hypocrisy.



posted on Oct, 17 2017 @ 08:34 PM
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originally posted by: SailorJerry

originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: SailorJerry
So, the Russians were DEFINITELY involved in some bribery and undercover shenanigans
But somehow its its COMPLETELY implausible that Russia tried to influence the election in favor of Trump?

I swear to his supporters even realize how blind and hypocritical they are?


So your take on this is that this shows how corrupt russia is, and they bribed hillary and Obama let this corrupt deal go on......

So shame on trump supporters.

Wow.


No, Im sorry you cant think critically.

I am just saying that you would have to be a complete imbecile to buy this but NOT consider the fact the other is true with Trump


Hey, well done sneaking in the words "facts" and "true" there, straight out of the "Gaslighting and Brainwashing 101" handbook! Only problem is that there is no "fact" regarding Trump/Russia. No proof has been provided despite all kinds of investigations and despite all sorts of claims by deep state agents, Clintonite MSM nitwits and ShareBlue trolls in general.

Try again, propagandist. Maybe a little less obvious next time?

Best of luck!




posted on Oct, 17 2017 @ 08:41 PM
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originally posted by: ReadingOne

originally posted by: SailorJerry

originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: SailorJerry
So, the Russians were DEFINITELY involved in some bribery and undercover shenanigans
But somehow its its COMPLETELY implausible that Russia tried to influence the election in favor of Trump?

I swear to his supporters even realize how blind and hypocritical they are?


So your take on this is that this shows how corrupt russia is, and they bribed hillary and Obama let this corrupt deal go on......

So shame on trump supporters.

Wow.


No, Im sorry you cant think critically.

I am just saying that you would have to be a complete imbecile to buy this but NOT consider the fact the other is true with Trump


Hey, well done sneaking in the words "facts" and "true" there, straight out of the "Gaslighting and Brainwashing 101" handbook! Only problem is that there is no "fact" regarding Trump/Russia. No proof has been provided despite all kinds of investigations and despite all sorts of claims by deep state agents, Clintonite MSM nitwits and ShareBlue trolls in general.

Try again, propagandist. Maybe a little less obvious next time?

Best of luck!



The problem is with so many Trump supporters, no matter what proof is provided, they still wont believe it.

Hence the whole "Fake News" coin. Hes been really great his whole campaign and now his presidency, coining key words for his constituents to throw out every time they hear something they dont like.

A lot like how the far left was throwing out "racist" to shut down any discussion and discredit anyone



posted on Oct, 17 2017 @ 08:49 PM
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originally posted by: SailorJerry

originally posted by: ReadingOne

originally posted by: SailorJerry

originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: SailorJerry
So, the Russians were DEFINITELY involved in some bribery and undercover shenanigans
But somehow its its COMPLETELY implausible that Russia tried to influence the election in favor of Trump?

I swear to his supporters even realize how blind and hypocritical they are?


So your take on this is that this shows how corrupt russia is, and they bribed hillary and Obama let this corrupt deal go on......

So shame on trump supporters.

Wow.


No, Im sorry you cant think critically.

I am just saying that you would have to be a complete imbecile to buy this but NOT consider the fact the other is true with Trump


Hey, well done sneaking in the words "facts" and "true" there, straight out of the "Gaslighting and Brainwashing 101" handbook! Only problem is that there is no "fact" regarding Trump/Russia. No proof has been provided despite all kinds of investigations and despite all sorts of claims by deep state agents, Clintonite MSM nitwits and ShareBlue trolls in general.

Try again, propagandist. Maybe a little less obvious next time?

Best of luck!



The problem is with so many Trump supporters, no matter what proof is provided, they still wont believe it.

Hence the whole "Fake News" coin. Hes been really great his whole campaign and now his presidency, coining key words for his constituents to throw out every time they hear something they dont like.

A lot like how the far left was throwing out "racist" to shut down any discussion and discredit anyone


Well i have said repeatedly that if trump worked with russia to hack the dnc and podesta, he should be removed from office and jailed.

I have yet to see even one shred of evidence that is the case.

Have you seen that? If so, please provide it and I will look at it.

In the mean time, surely based on the info in the op you would support an investigation into Hillary and Obama for this uranium deal, when we have proof there was crimes committed and money given to hillary, and that hillary and Obama allowed russia to receive this deal knowing kickbacks were offered.



posted on Oct, 17 2017 @ 08:49 PM
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originally posted by: SailorJerry

originally posted by: ReadingOne

originally posted by: SailorJerry

originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: SailorJerry
So, the Russians were DEFINITELY involved in some bribery and undercover shenanigans
But somehow its its COMPLETELY implausible that Russia tried to influence the election in favor of Trump?

I swear to his supporters even realize how blind and hypocritical they are?


So your take on this is that this shows how corrupt russia is, and they bribed hillary and Obama let this corrupt deal go on......

So shame on trump supporters.

Wow.


No, Im sorry you cant think critically.

I am just saying that you would have to be a complete imbecile to buy this but NOT consider the fact the other is true with Trump


Hey, well done sneaking in the words "facts" and "true" there, straight out of the "Gaslighting and Brainwashing 101" handbook! Only problem is that there is no "fact" regarding Trump/Russia. No proof has been provided despite all kinds of investigations and despite all sorts of claims by deep state agents, Clintonite MSM nitwits and ShareBlue trolls in general.

Try again, propagandist. Maybe a little less obvious next time?

Best of luck!



The problem is with so many Trump supporters, no matter what proof is provided, they still wont believe it.



Why are you whining to me about Trump supporters, propagandist? I am a Bernie Sanders supporter.

So you fail again. Oh well, Hillary supporters aren't exactly the sharpest knives in the drawer. "Never mind that war mongering thingy and the mind boggling greed and corruption and the pathological lying and all those people ending up dead in weird ways after becoming a problem for the Clinton Crime Syndicate - CAUSE SHE WIMMIN!!!!!!! FIRST WIMMIN PRESIDENT!!!!!"

Hahaha.



posted on Oct, 17 2017 @ 08:51 PM
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a reply to: ReadingOne

The only reason youre on this thread is because you dislike Hillary, and it was red meat. Which is fine I hate the woman too.
I also dislike Trump

And my mind thinks that russia was working with BOTH of them, and prepared to blackmail either one.



posted on Oct, 17 2017 @ 08:54 PM
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originally posted by: SailorJerry

originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: SailorJerry
So, the Russians were DEFINITELY involved in some bribery and undercover shenanigans
But somehow its its COMPLETELY implausible that Russia tried to influence the election in favor of Trump?

I swear to his supporters even realize how blind and hypocritical they are?


So your take on this is that this shows how corrupt russia is, and they bribed hillary and Obama let this corrupt deal go on......

So shame on trump supporters.

Wow.


No, Im sorry you cant think critically.

My take is that for over a year hardline right wingers , Fox news, and Trump supporters have been adamant that Russia has had NO HAND WHAT SO EVER, in anything going on with our politicians, and that it was IMPOSSIBLE they could be colluding with Trump in ANY WAY, be it financial or otherwise

Now all the sudden "LOOK AT THE RUSSIANS AND HILLARY"

Its hypocritical , deaf dumb and blind BS is what it is. Im not saying this article isnt true, I am just saying that you would have to be a complete imbecile to buy this but NOT consider the fact the other is true with Trump


We didn't find out about it though because all the real collusion was with the Hillary, Obama, and the Mueller gang. So of course that was kept hushed up within those in the democrat circle. The only thing hypocritical is that during Trump's campaign, those same people screamed "collusion" at Trump, when it was the opposite. The worst thing Trump did later was appoint Mueller to that "collusion" team. Mueller was FBI director when Obama and Hillary were accepting big Russian bribes for the uranium deal! Critical thinking? Um... yeah.



posted on Oct, 17 2017 @ 09:00 PM
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you guys are funny.

is Russia bad now?

what about those sanctions - why isn't trump implementing them?



posted on Oct, 17 2017 @ 09:10 PM
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originally posted by: SailorJerry
a reply to: ReadingOne

The only reason youre on this thread is because you dislike Hillary, and it was red meat. Which is fine I hate the woman too.
I also dislike Trump

And my mind thinks that russia was working with BOTH of them, and prepared to blackmail either one.


Hey, don't coward out now with the lame "red meat" excuse aka "I didn't really mean it" line, WTF, did ShareBlue send out a memo with new talking points? I've seen other Hillbots try the same act after being called out about their derps, it's pitiful. And of course I hate HIllary, any sane person despises the evil hag, duh. Doesn't mean I hate all women, I am actually a woman myself, but hey, good job sneaking that tired old Clintonite sexism accusation in there too, propagandist, haha.

And the reason I am in this thread right now is simply that I enjoy very, very much making fun of Hillbots and deep state propagandists like you. So that's three fails, congrats.


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posted on Oct, 17 2017 @ 09:10 PM
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originally posted by: knoxie
you guys are funny.

is Russia bad now?

what about those sanctions - why isn't trump implementing them?


Russia is Russia, just like they have been for decades.. What is bad are those in the USA, like Mueller and Obama, Hillary doing very dirty deals, and taking advantage of what Russia desperately wanted, and they even had Eric Holder helping that Uranium deal out. The one where dirty money was paid out to guess who in exchange for Russia gaining all that Uranium control..Take care of the dirty swamp here first, and then scream at Russia. But Russia might have done liberty a favor by entrapping Obama, Hillary and their super friends by proxy.



posted on Oct, 17 2017 @ 09:17 PM
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originally posted by: knoxie
you guys are funny.

is Russia bad now?

what about those sanctions - why isn't trump implementing them?


Russia has always been a geopolitical adversary. Should we be in a constant state of war with them? Or do we try to get along without killing each other?

Is our intelligence so bad that we can't detect Russian Espionage and other hijinks till it's a fait accompli? Lord knows what China's been doing. I bet their stealth fighter is derived from Espionage both Military and Industrial. We always have to assume other Nations are always trying stuff against us and have countermeasures in place.

If the Russians actually got their Pick in as President, what does that say to our intelligence agencies and their capabilities? Any way you look at this it's looks bad for our Intelligence Agencies. There quite probably needs to be a through review of their abilities, procedures and competency in the wake of everything alleged by both sides.



posted on Oct, 17 2017 @ 10:04 PM
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My take is that for over a year hardline right wingers , Fox news, and Trump supporters have been adamant that Russia has had NO HAND WHAT SO EVER, in anything going on with our politicians, and that it was IMPOSSIBLE they could be colluding with Trump in ANY WAY, be it financial or otherwise


Because they didn't.

The GD electoral college decides our elections.

The left is just snipped off they got beat at their own game.



posted on Oct, 17 2017 @ 10:08 PM
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a reply to: ReadingOne




I've seen other Hillbots try the same act after being called out about their derps, it's pitiful.


Aww cute look assumptions.




Doesn't mean I hate all women, I am actually a woman myself, but hey, good job sneaking that tired old Clintonite sexism accusation in there too, propagandist, haha.


Care to point out where that was again? Just for good measure? While youre trying to deflect with a sexist claim thats unfounded, how very Clinton-esque of you.




And the reason I am in this thread right now is simply that I enjoy very, very much making fun of Hillbots and deep state propagandists like you. So that's three fails, congrats.


Indeed, because you apparently cant read either.

And I quote from THAT post.




The only reason youre on this thread is because you dislike Hillary, and it was red meat. Which is fine I hate the woman too.


I guess reading comprehension isnt your strong suit, but hey keep on flinging! Youre doing a great job not understanding a word I said!

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posted on Oct, 17 2017 @ 10:10 PM
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a reply to: neo96




Because they didn't. The GD electoral college decides our elections. The left is just snipped off they got beat at their own game.


At their own game? Well far right is always accusing Far left (and vice versa) of rigging, so are you saying that Trump rigged the election?



posted on Oct, 17 2017 @ 10:11 PM
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a reply to: pavil



no. not like this. give me a break with the killing each other. no one wants war, ffs. ugh.

it's definitely not the time to play nice with Russia. why would you even suggest that?

blaming the intelligence agency??? lol you've got trumps deflection technique down - kudos.



posted on Oct, 17 2017 @ 10:26 PM
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originally posted by: knoxie
a reply to: pavil



no. not like this. give me a break with the killing each other. no one wants war, ffs. ugh.

it's definitely not the time to play nice with Russia. why would you even suggest that?

blaming the intelligence agency??? lol you've got trumps deflection technique down - kudos.


And kudos to you for deflecting to trump for Russian collusion in a thread discussing hillary getting millions from known Russian extortionists!



posted on Oct, 17 2017 @ 10:32 PM
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a reply to: Grambler


I was responding to this -

If the Russians actually got their Pick in as President, what does that say to our intelligence agencies and their capabilities? Any way you look at this it's looks bad for our Intelligence Agencies. There quite probably needs to be a through review of their abilities, procedures and competency in the wake of everything alleged by both sides.



considering our president doesn't see any wrong doing from Russia i'd say our intelligence agencies are ahead of the game.

maybe we should review the competency of the president. lol

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posted on Oct, 17 2017 @ 11:01 PM
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a reply to: knoxie

Maybe we should investigate the person who received millions of dollars from russians that were known to be bribers and extortionists and then signed off on selling them uranium.



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