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instead produces a spiral shape space time ripple (projecting a 4D vector into a 3D space, like the classic, spacetime as presented as a flat canvas with a dip in the middle from a star)
That is what the model suggests, the wave in this manner is only possible if gravity effects space-time, AT the speed of light. If Gravity was instantaneous at all points, producing the effect observed simply would be impossible as the spiral would not at all propagate.
The evidence here points at the passage of gravitational potential as travelling at the speed of light.
if gravity is a transverse wave, traveling at the speed of light, then gravity is not gravity, its electromagnetic radiation.
I'm pretty sure that if electromagnetic radiation aka light had attractive properties, it would have been discovered decades ago in a laboratory.
I dont think LIGO and Virgo understand their own observations. Cuz their basically saying gravity is light and "gravitons" are photons.
I am talking 4D in terms of 3 Spacial dimensions, and the 1 dimension extra for the well potential. Im trying to get you to have a vision of it in your mind as a concept.
The two test mass would, at the moment of creation, begin to move toward each other, this would show that gravitation propagates in an instantaneous manner...
It is a thought experiment with two outcomes that depend upon the property of gravity. What evidence suggests, is that gravity propagates at the speed of light...
originally posted by: ErosA433
a reply to: BELIEVERpriest
Light created outside of the event horizon, with a vector away from the event horizon will escape, the gravitational potential is a property of the space around the object, it is free to propagate away. There is no contradiction.
Gravity and light may propagate at the same speed but gravity has no relativistic mass so it can radiate unimpeded which goes against the notion of gravity being carried by any form of particle.
The 'wave' we're talking about here is a variation in strength of the detected force. Somewhat like the the way we employ radio waves (electromagnetic modulation) which do propagate at light speed.
They say a moving dipole creates EM radiation, so they ASSume a moving quadrupolar mass creates gravitational waves.
I maintain that LIGO is misinterpreting their own observations, else they would realize that their findings just unified Gravity with Electromagnetism.
It really is quite strange... that or i guess business as usual from this kind of place where confidence in ignorance is more important than actual information... despite the motto being deny ignorance.