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On scene investigator banned from Mandalay Bay, MGM, for life after he discovered this!

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posted on Oct, 16 2017 @ 11:11 AM
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a reply to: JaeG14

Strikes me about level of electronic surveillance going on.

Reading the OP link it seems to indicate MGM Mandalay matched a private individuals name and room number with an anonymous twitter handle.

Then there's mention of Samsung spy tv's and a WiFi policy that in "pretty" terms says "we spy on our guests"

That's enough right there to keep out of Vegas - much less mass shooting false flags for advancement of gun control agenda.




posted on Oct, 16 2017 @ 11:21 AM
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a reply to: DAVID64
well if you break the guns to components you could get maybe three in a suitcase so 6 or 7 suitcases could carry all the weapons two more for ammo put it on luggage cart and have bellhop carry it to room. i still think there was several shooters.
now they say there was no cameras in hallway sounds logical cameras are mostly there to catch casino cheaters so mafia can maximize its profits of its legitimate business



posted on Oct, 16 2017 @ 11:23 AM
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a reply to: Phoenix

Yeah I wasn't clear on how exactly they found him. I assumed they just saw him on surveillance cameras taking videos of the elevators and stuff and figured out it was him.

The huge mistake this guy did was being impatient and posting everything while he was there. He should have done his investigating thing during his stay and then posted it all after he checked out.



posted on Oct, 16 2017 @ 11:31 AM
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a reply to: JaeG14

That leads to another "can't have it both ways" conundrum.

Claim was "no CCTV surveillance in halls" so if they claim this guest kicked out due CCTV evidence then it make them liars on shooting evidence.

On otherhand they deny electronic surveillance then it makes CCTV surveillance true again making them liars.

It's conundrum isn't it?



posted on Oct, 16 2017 @ 11:38 AM
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that was not an oval tub...it was 2 chairs pushed together..I didn't realize it until someone posted and I took a closer look


originally posted by: CynConcepts
a reply to: MrBlaq

You are correct. My husband shot his semi auto 20 clips down at the indoor range. He quick triggered it into sounding like he had a machine gun as 'guys' will do. He wasnt trying to hit the target, just make alot of noise!

The barrel became red hot. He thought he waited long enough and set it in the case...the casing immediately began to Melt! He had to wait an extra 30 minutes for it to be cool enough to set down in the case.

Edit add: looking back at the photos...this may explain why 2 of the guns are laid on top of each other with the barrels in the air in that oval tub. The other two on the floor could be the 2 guns that jammed and he simply tossed aside.



posted on Oct, 16 2017 @ 11:58 AM
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Oops. Wrong thread. Sorry.
edit on 10/16/2017 by Lurker1 because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 16 2017 @ 12:07 PM
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a reply to: Phoenix

I'm on my phone so it's difficult to look thru a bunch of other things, but I know the guy posted a pic of his room service receipt. He was showing that the one leaked from Stephen Paddock was authentic because it looked exactly like his. Perhaps he left too much info in the receipt and the hotel was able to track which room ordered the food?



posted on Oct, 16 2017 @ 12:32 PM
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a reply to: Sillyolme why can't they all be false Flags? You can't just make a blanket statement like that love backing it up with something. I would think it would be easier to say they must all be false Flags then they can't all be false Flags

Jaden



posted on Oct, 16 2017 @ 01:19 PM
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originally posted by: Phoenix
Reading the OP link it seems to indicate MGM Mandalay matched a private individuals name and room number with an anonymous twitter handle.


Oh Lordie. He describes himself as an "independent investigator" so he's probably been getting on everyone's nerves by asking silly questions. The staff probably followed him up to his room. He's a self publicist. , but he won't give his real name. Oh no, that's hush hush. But hey, he's getting all the publicity now and all he did was get chucked out of the hotel.



posted on Oct, 16 2017 @ 01:50 PM
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originally posted by: paraphi

originally posted by: Phoenix
Reading the OP link it seems to indicate MGM Mandalay matched a private individuals name and room number with an anonymous twitter handle.


Oh Lordie. He describes himself as an "independent investigator" so he's probably been getting on everyone's nerves by asking silly questions. The staff probably followed him up to his room. He's a self publicist. , but he won't give his real name. Oh no, that's hush hush. But hey, he's getting all the publicity now and all he did was get chucked out of the hotel.



Yet he showed some interesting information. The service elevators are far from room 135, much farther away than the standard elevators. So why did SP use them?

He showed that the shooter would have a perfect vantage point to both the crowd and the tanks from the window on 135. So why was the second window in the adjoining room busted out if not for the purpose of allowing two people to shoot at the same time?

I'm still confused as to how 32134 was occupied by SP and had a window busted out while Aussie Brian Hodge says he was in room 134. I have yet to see anyone clarify this.
edit on 16-10-2017 by JaeG14 because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 16 2017 @ 02:47 PM
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Is anything in America not a conspiracy? Every single mass shooting/bombing is a conspiracy every time..



posted on Oct, 16 2017 @ 03:03 PM
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originally posted by: tigertatzen
a reply to: pravdaseeker

One witness already died right after posting insistent testimony contradictory to the official joke of a narrative on social media.



The witness Kymberley Suchomel, died sadly from previous health issues. She had been diagnosed a couple months back with a benign brain tumor, she just was a victim of the Las Vegas shooting but escaped safely. And this morning she never woke up after having a seizure. He family thinks the stress of the Las Vegas event caused further seizures.

I don't think she was "Rubbed out" by anyone.



posted on Oct, 16 2017 @ 03:05 PM
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a reply to: Sillyolme

Conspiracy site if you have forgotten. Not a political site as you generally only touch those. People enjoy thinking outside of the box, and not in a bubble of MSM lies.

Just saying.
edit on 16-10-2017 by Crumbles because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 16 2017 @ 03:07 PM
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originally posted by: Masterjaden
a reply to: Sillyolme why can't they all be false Flags? You can't just make a blanket statement like that love backing it up with something. I would think it would be easier to say they must all be false Flags then they can't all be false Flags

Jaden


Can you name one modern day so called False Flag which has proved to be exactly that? and I mean proved and accepted as a False Flag.........

(False Flag actually comes from olden day Pirates who ran up false flags when they saw other ships, to present that they were friendly and then attacked them. Just a bit of useless info)



posted on Oct, 16 2017 @ 03:08 PM
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a reply to: TrueBrit

My point in a nutshell is that this guy didn’t break any law - Local,State, or Federal. That federal agent shouldn’t even be there to accompany a private hotel security team to trespass a customer.

Then the Fed breaks federal law by threatening the customer of a private hotel that hasn’t broken any law with intimidation of search and seizure of this personal belongings if he does not comply with the hotel security team.

I know a hotel can throw you out for just about any reason they can think of. Not my point.

My point is why is the Fed there?

If this went down exactly like the PI says ( which I highly doubt), the Fed should have just tagged along and just observed. Why the cowboy act - I’m a Fed and do as we say or I’ll search your s#*%. The hotel security are within their rights to trespass him and if the Fed senses something he can have him tailed. No need to show your hand to the PI if your the Fed and are trying to control information in and out of their crime scene.

If this story is true at face value Ultimately it shows an ineptitude on the part of the Fed ( possibly criminal) but more importantly the micromanagement and control of information in and out of Mandalay Bay.



posted on Oct, 16 2017 @ 03:17 PM
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Right from the start there was so much information that was highly suspect, I find it hard to believe it is still getting worse.

I don't care how you slice it - this just doesn't add up.

Just from a practical standpoint, why would anyone choose to bring so many different weapons that use different magazines and different ammunition? Why risk getting caught smuggling so many rifles in to the hotel when one or two would have been more than enough? One as the main weapon, and one back-up that used the same magazines and ammunition. Much less to carry, no problem swapping in the event of a mechanical malfunction with the primary weapon. A piece of paper with hand written ballistic trajectory calculations on it? Ballistic trajectory is something you would see on a professional engineer test, and even then it would not be done manually. NO ONE performs ballistic calculations before firing a gun. The calculations have all been done already. That is why there are graduations on the elevation sites. You just adjust for elevation and allow for windage. Done. Even a professional sniper trying for a perfect shot on a target a mile away would not perform manual trajectory calculations. Its stupid to even suggest it.

I have been to LV. There is no such thing as a hotel/casino that does not have surveillance in every public area at all times. I think the only place you won't find cameras is in the private areas of restrooms or looking directly at a bed. I concede that hallways and elevators are probably not monitored as closely as the gaming areas, but still - someone must have seen something unusual.

I guess the only question I have left is this: how many false flags does it take to ruin a Constitution?
edit on 16-10-2017 by Vroomfondel because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 16 2017 @ 03:17 PM
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a reply to: privatepilotuk

Ahh but accepted by who exactly?
No-ones going to come out and admit "hey yeah you're right it was a false flag event sorry guys"



posted on Oct, 16 2017 @ 03:21 PM
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originally posted by: EternalShadow

Aside from the obvious fact that there IS surveillance footage somewhere either being suppressed or withheld at this time because of the ongoing investigation, the fact that MGM Resorts can monitor your everystuff even if you don't use their WiFi is more than unsettling.... it freaking Orwellian prophecy coming to pass.


Chillax dude. This is done all the time. It's known as geo-fencing and is used in marketing a great deal. It can be done using beacons (in a store setting) or via geo-fences if on a larger scale. Here's how a marketer would use them:

Let's say you're shopping in Walmart. You wander into the toy section and suddenly a special offer pops-up on your phone advertising a special 'flash-sale' on a specific toy. Beacons placed strategically around the store determine what department you're in and feed you relevant offers.

For a broader example, let's say you're car shopping and wander onto a Chevy dealer's lot. A marketer can 'geo-fence' competitors' lots and serve you a special offer message to test drive their car and receive a special offer if you do so before 5pm. The idea is to get you off the competitor's lot and over to theirs.

You don't actually think all this functionality is built into your phone just for you, do you?



posted on Oct, 16 2017 @ 03:27 PM
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a reply to: Paddyofurniture

There SHOULD be micromanagement of information flow in and out of the hotel. The FEDS are WELL within their rights to prevent private investigators from being present anywhere on the premises, if there is a reasonable probability that the individual is engaged to do ANY kind of investigation, of ANYTHING, ANYWHERE around their crime scene, related to it or otherwise.

The only people with any power in terms of investigative authority, or permission to be on the premises for any purpose other than to patronise the venue, are the police and the FBI. The Feebs want rid of this guy, and the hotel do not want a sleaze peddler with delusions of his own importance there. Thats two organisations whose aims are, for different reasons, the same. Thats not the hotel asking the Feebs to weigh in, thats the hotel and the Feebs, saying, collectively "Neither of us want you here, the door is over there."

This is not an example of the Feds being asked to enforce company policy, nor is it a matter of the Feds ejecting a guest that the hotel would have liked, otherwise, to make welcome. It seems for all the world as if both entities realised "We literally cannot have this guy around... Let's go and speak to him together... saves time that way.".

That is how I read this situation, at any rate.



posted on Oct, 16 2017 @ 03:29 PM
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originally posted by: EternalShadow
There are leaked photos of a man dead on the floor of his suite surrounded by a ridiculous amount of weapons, but nothing else leaked to substantiate him ever getting to that point..

It's ass backwards. The photos were released for shock value, plain and simple. Whereas, video of him actually bringing in multiple bags, boxes, or suitcases should have been released first.

What I would like to know is who leaked the photos and with what intentions.

From what we know (nothing) it could have been Campos or even the maintenance guy.




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