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Las Vegas Shooting -- Missing Theory

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posted on Oct, 14 2017 @ 10:33 PM
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Dozens of possibilities have been tossed out into the wild about the Las Vegas shooting.

But what if the "real thing" has not come up on the internet yet?

Like maybe conspiracy theorists aren't quite getting it.

We've heard about Stephen Paddock being a scapegoat, a patsy, a nutcase, an arms dealer, etc. etc.

We've heard it could have been an FBI sting that went wrong.

And dozens more theories.

What if the real "Stephen Paddock" was a FBI agent that had an identity created by the FBI for undercover work?

What if girlfriend "Marylou Danley" was too, and they were co-workers on the same cases going back years?

What if "Stephen Paddock" retired or was injured or got ill a year ago?

What if he got exposed by criminals that were arrested and convicted?

The FBI may have placed him (and Danley) in some kind of witness protection for government agents.

That scenario leaves a dormant fake identity created by the FBI never to be used again.

Never to be used again until somebody needed a flawless identity for a deep state operation.

It would be perfect.

Consider that along with why a shadow state would want to create a diabolical situation with several goals in mind.

Goals like more gun control laws.

Goals like a stronger police state with public blessings.

Goals like setting up super security measures in more places than just airports and sporting events.

What if some of the big casino people are tired of paying millions of dollars for their own security?

What if they wanted to find a way to get taxpayer funding for that security?

What if those same people wanted the government to fund security in privately owned places like Las Vegas casinos and hotels.

What if the big casino owners and CEOs and Directors are in league with the shadow government that has Million$ in dark funding at their fingertips?

We know the politicians and gun control freaks jumped all over this immediately.

We also saw one casino owner, Steve Wynn, come out immediately admitting his casinos already use "extra" and hidden security methods.

What if the entire "investigation" in Las Vegas is being fully orchestrated so the ending "Official" version of events is automatically acceptable to the public?

What if the shootings never originated from Mandalay Bay either?

What if that entire narrative was staged?

What if the other incidents in other casinos were part of the plan?

With all the holes and conflicts in the news reports, maybe we the public don't really know anything?

We know the TSA has been expanding over the years.

What if they could find a way into private venues that host a large public presence every day of the year?

Right here on ATS we talk a lot about how U.S. government shadow operations assassinate leaders and set up puppet governments.

We talk about how government supports the big corporations too.

What if some of those operations are happening right here in the U.S.?

Here's some articles that explain what might be happening...


T.S.A. Expands Duties Beyond Airport Security


Sports stadiums and arenas increase high-tech security tools





posted on Oct, 14 2017 @ 11:01 PM
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What if....we never know the truth?



posted on Oct, 14 2017 @ 11:03 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

If they are able to make the fake persona in the first place, then it's easy enough that they don't need to wait for something to happen to Stephen Paddock in order to use his ID for a false flag. Next



posted on Oct, 14 2017 @ 11:16 PM
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Could a vastly experienced, extremely talented illusionist with motive and intent have pulled this all off, vanished without a trace, leaving behind the crime scene as found with an unsolvable mystery?

If yes, then almost any "what if" theory is entirely possible...




posted on Oct, 14 2017 @ 11:31 PM
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Too many what if's there mate, I think the op went bad when Paddock accidentally shot himself. The delay getting inside the room was to allow for the cover story to be quickly manufactured as it was a scenario they didn't foresee. The holes are there because government agency's were naturally involved and the bungling and ineptness is always present with these overpaid and under worked fools.

The deal was going to be blamed on extremist's of some persuasion but Paddock unexpectedly dying messed up the plan.



posted on Oct, 14 2017 @ 11:49 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

What if...

I'm a big fan of yours, specifically in regards to the political threads, as they seem to rile up the folks, and I like that.

What I like more, is a thread that makes you think rather than react.

Interesting stuff.




posted on Oct, 15 2017 @ 12:42 AM
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You still can't post your "inside info" because it violates the T&Cs, huh? Or is this it?



posted on Oct, 15 2017 @ 02:01 AM
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originally posted by: KansasGirl
You still can't post your "inside info" because it violates the T&Cs, huh? Or is this it?


If xuenchen has insider info that break T&C's, has he told us why it breaks them? That's what this "^gun control freak" (*read instead sensible person with a healthy respect for life) would like to know!

Aside from calling those who want tighter gun control "freaks", which is an ignorant thing to do, the OP doesn't say anything new or even add anything to the narrative, this has all been said before...



posted on Oct, 15 2017 @ 08:59 AM
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a reply to: xuenchen

Okay, you're almost preaching to choir here... but you know that


I've long thought Paddock was working for the govt in some capacity. I'm not sure which agency, full-time or part-time or as needed, etc. And I believe that the night in question, Paddock had a meeting with some nefarious dudes on behalf of the feds, and the cameras were there for the feds to watch -- maybe even from those adjoining rooms. And if that's the case, then the feds knew what went sideways and when and how and were no doubt there on site before the police on the ground even knew there was going to be a huge problem. I can even accept that Paddock is an entirely made-up identity for federal agents, perhaps used by several different agents at different times, and that this was a throwaway identity. My thought is that this could have been a different agent killed, but to hide that he was there, gave him the Paddock identity... and I also thought at one time that maybe Paddock had died recently, unannounced, and they were able to transfer the identity.

I have no doubt there were other shooters at other casinos either. And for the most part, it was MGM casinos, and a few owned by Caesars Entertainment.

But this is what I don't get: if their plan is mass chaos and injury and death, then why hide the other shooters? If the plan is panic, then the more the better, right? This only serves to discredit the authorities who are lying about it -- and doesn't recommend giving them even more power and authority by the masses. Well, at least not those of us paying attention. That's what doesn't make sense to me about this being a false flag.




edit on 15-10-2017 by Boadicea because: changed "to the masses" to "by the masses."



posted on Oct, 15 2017 @ 09:11 AM
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a reply to: xuenchen

At this moment in time anything is possible..and anything goes. It is really sad to see these these worrysome events are happening all over the world and governments appearently being involved. It is very troublesome to see that in this time of consumer crazyness everybody seems to have his price to betray humanity itself. What is the meaning of this all and where does it lead to..


edit on 15/10/2017 by zatara because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 15 2017 @ 09:13 AM
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Nope, because he was a gambler. He gambled way too much for your theory to be true. At times that was all he did.






posted on Oct, 15 2017 @ 01:39 PM
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Sure, I'll play.

If what you've posited is true there are a few things which would point to that being the case.

Such a person would have a nebulous and fuzzy background, but there would have to be enough there in order to convince someone who did more than a cursory check; they would need to have a believable paper trail and that trail would have to have some substance to it.

This would also possibly indicate differing factions within the intelligence community. One of which set up and used the original personas, and then the other of which have the ties to the casino CEOs and set this in motion. It's a 'good' arrangement because neither side can out the other and so both sides will help keep the truth from being known.

The 'good guys' would not want it known that Paddock was an agent because that could jeopardize other operations and the 'bad guys' don't want too much attention brought to them for similar reasons.

The CEO and other high ranking member selling their stocks last month is smelly in light of this event; this is objectively verifiable and so not in question. Soros put options (if verified, I'm not sure how that can be done) also has a similar odoriferous quality.

I have also read that there have been offers to buy out MGM, but not sure how credible those reports are.

Will be watching MGM stock and OSIS (Chertoff's company that makes the body scanners) in the coming weeks and months. Will be also wanting to watch whatever legislation is pushed as a result of this event.

The next question I suppose that would be asked is, if this is all true, what can be done about it?



posted on Oct, 15 2017 @ 02:12 PM
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originally posted by: kurthall
a reply to: xuenchen



Nope, because he was a gambler. He gambled way too much for your theory to be true. At times that was all he did.





I'm with you on this one. He didn't do much real work unless his job description was gambling of late.



posted on Oct, 15 2017 @ 02:28 PM
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Xuenchen....I have always been a "fan" of yours, mostly agreeing with what you post. Even though I typically lurk in the shadows.

I have mostly came to the same conclusion. Before I couldnt decide if Paddock and Danley were FBI, ATF or CIA. Now, i feel fairly comfortable in thinking they're CIA.

These 2 were almost like ghosts. It's hard to pin down certain dates...like when they started dating for one.

I even speculated that some of the hotels were involved in some capacity.

Also....i couldnt find any mentions of Paddack gambling until he retired from his 9 years of government employment.

Next questions would be: are Campos and maintenance man real?

Are his brothers really his brothers?

Did Mary Lou know Paddock would die? Did he really die?



posted on Oct, 15 2017 @ 02:51 PM
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originally posted by: nikkib0421

Next questions would be: are Campos and maintenance man real?

Are his brothers really his brothers?



My guess:

All those people are not real at all.




posted on Oct, 15 2017 @ 02:52 PM
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originally posted by: kurthall
a reply to: xuenchen



Nope, because he was a gambler. He gambled way too much for your theory to be true. At times that was all he did.






On that note...Willtell had an interesting theory in another thread about the video poker he played...that he could maybe get *paid* by being directed to play on a rigged machine.



posted on Oct, 15 2017 @ 02:53 PM
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originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: nikkib0421

Next questions would be: are Campos and maintenance man real?

Are his brothers really his brothers?



My guess:

All those people are not real at all.





"Not real" as in actors playing parts?

Personally, I think 'Eric Paddock' looks so much like 'Stephen Paddock' that it makes me wonder. If 'Eric' played the part of 'Stephen,' then that would solve some challenges in pulling this off.

ALSO....I like this missing theory!
edit on 10/15/2017 by MotherMayEye because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 15 2017 @ 03:07 PM
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Weird he had so many guns, I would think 3 rifles and a few hand guns would have been just fine. Many of the guns didn't even make sense for what he was planning either, so a faked gun deal sounds more legit than some guy thinking he needs 23 guns of all different styles. Only one or Two had bump stocks and it seems that is what he used the whole time, Some with iron sights, some with EOtech red dots etc...most were not something you would want to shoot over 100 yards with much less 400+ yards.

Also, why commit suicide when he could have gone out in a blaze of glory as it seems was his goal...



posted on Oct, 15 2017 @ 03:37 PM
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This goes right along with my line of thinking that Vegas was a deep state operation and the shooters were either in helicopters or drones. They would still need a patsy and from what we've seen Paddock wasn't seen much over the last year, for the last decade pretty much. Same goes for Danley.

Btw: I did a search for Stephen C Paddock and he is not a realtor licensed in the state of Nevada.



posted on Oct, 15 2017 @ 04:08 PM
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I have even wondered if there might be some sort of double play (Not sure what to call it).

Right away all of this seemed obviously wrong. Now it's to the point of most people I know are saying something isn't right. Normal, non conspiracy people.

It almost seems like this was designed to blow the lid off the corruption and dirty deeds of all the players. It seems every element has come into play:wall street rigging (insider trading), the fbi, corporations(hotel and casinos), the police state, survailance, etc.

Was this designed to be the straw that broke the camel's back?



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