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TRUMP: "Yeah that's her in the gold. I better use some Tic Tacs just in case I start kissing her. You know, I'm automatically attracted to beautiful... I just start kissing them. It's like a magnet. Just kiss. I don't even wait. And when you're a star they let you do it. You can do anything."
BUSH: "Whatever you want."
TRUMP: "Grab them by the p****. You can do anything."
www.voanews.com...
originally posted by: windword
a reply to: Gargamel
TRUMP: "Yeah that's her in the gold. I better use some Tic Tacs just in case I start kissing her. You know, I'm automatically attracted to beautiful... I just start kissing them. It's like a magnet. Just kiss. I don't even wait. And when you're a star they let you do it. You can do anything."
BUSH: "Whatever you want."
TRUMP: "Grab them by the p****. You can do anything."
www.voanews.com...
"I don't even wait" Wait for what? CONSENT!
What Trump is describing is sexual assault.
originally posted by: windword
a reply to: Gargamel
TRUMP: "Yeah that's her in the gold. I better use some Tic Tacs just in case I start kissing her. You know, I'm automatically attracted to beautiful... I just start kissing them. It's like a magnet. Just kiss. I don't even wait. And when you're a star they let you do it. You can do anything."
BUSH: "Whatever you want."
TRUMP: "Grab them by the p****. You can do anything."
www.voanews.com...
"I don't even wait" Wait for what? CONSENT!
What Trump is describing is sexual assault.
originally posted by: mOjOm
a reply to: Gargamel
No, of course there are those out there who are willing to play along to get something out of it. That in fact is why this is a more complex thing than people often try and make it out to be. But that is also a different situation completely than the other. Those differences need to be accounted for and not ignored as well.
But those involved know the difference and when caught usually try and push the argument to one side or the other to suit their purpose. That's where the, "She was asking for it." statements come in to play on one side while on the other side you get the "All male advances toward women are aggressive." Both those statements are wrong, but are based on some type of possible true interactions. But they're being used as an overall excuse for the situation.
When a "gold digger" or perhaps an opportunist exchanges some kind of "favor" in exchange for advancement or whatever they know what they're doing. They're playing along or even instigating that situation for that reason. When someone is forced or coerced into that same situation that's totally different. Both both situations do happen which is why each situation has to be examined in isolation rather than just putting them all into one group or the other.
originally posted by: LSU0408
originally posted by: windword
a reply to: Gargamel
TRUMP: "Yeah that's her in the gold. I better use some Tic Tacs just in case I start kissing her. You know, I'm automatically attracted to beautiful... I just start kissing them. It's like a magnet. Just kiss. I don't even wait. And when you're a star they let you do it. You can do anything."
BUSH: "Whatever you want."
TRUMP: "Grab them by the p****. You can do anything."
www.voanews.com...
"I don't even wait" Wait for what? CONSENT!
What Trump is describing is sexual assault.
Keyword, describing. And there's not one person here who can say he's lying about what stars can do.
TRUMP: "I moved on her. Actually, she was down on Palm Beach. I moved on her and I failed. I'll admit it. I did try and f*** her. She was married."
BUSH: "That's huge news."
TRUMP: "Nancy [O'Dell - former co-host of Access Hollywood], no this was... and I moved on her. Very heavily. In fact, I took her out furniture shopping. She wanted to get some furniture. I said 'I'll show you where they have some nice furniture'. I took her... I moved on her like a b****. I couldn't get there and she was married. And all of a sudden I see her. She's now got the big phoney t*** and she's totally changed her look."
BUSH: "Sheesh, your girl's hot as sh**. In the purple."
TRUMP: "Whoa! Yes! Whoa!"
BUSH: "Yes! The Donald has scored. Whoa, my man!"
[cross talk]
BUSH: " It better not be the publicist. No it's her, it's..."
TRUMP: "Yeah that's her in the gold. I better use some Tic Tacs [breath fresheners] just in case I start kissing her. You know, I'm automatically attracted to beautiful... I just start kissing them. It's like a magnet. Just kiss. I don't even wait. And when you're a star they let you do it. You can do anything."
BUSH: "Whatever you want."
TRUMP: "Grab them by the p****. You can do anything."
originally posted by: dragonridr
a reply to: mOjOm
Trump kind of described my first date with the wife. I think the key is had the wife toldme to stop or leave i would have.
originally posted by: LSU0408
originally posted by: windword
a reply to: Gargamel
TRUMP: "Yeah that's her in the gold. I better use some Tic Tacs just in case I start kissing her. You know, I'm automatically attracted to beautiful... I just start kissing them. It's like a magnet. Just kiss. I don't even wait. And when you're a star they let you do it. You can do anything."
BUSH: "Whatever you want."
TRUMP: "Grab them by the p****. You can do anything."
www.voanews.com...
"I don't even wait" Wait for what? CONSENT!
What Trump is describing is sexual assault.
Keyword, describing. And there's not one person here who can say he's lying about what stars can do.
originally posted by: Gargamel
a reply to: windword
But what did he actually do? Did he kiss Nancy O'Dell when she didn't want him too? Or is he just a braggart with an over inflated sense of self worth. I'm talking about actions not words. What did he actually do?
originally posted by: mOjOm
originally posted by: Gargamel
a reply to: windword
But what did he actually do? Did he kiss Nancy O'Dell when she didn't want him too? Or is he just a braggart with an over inflated sense of self worth. I'm talking about actions not words. What did he actually do?
You'd have to ask Nancy if she wanted it or not. Not Winword. Like I was saying, each interaction has it's own specifics and various ethical issues involved.
That isn't the only instance of what he's been accused of though. Multiple women at different times each have their own accusations and each one has to be taken into account.
Also, depending upon what happens in one interaction also can't be applied to them all. If he assaulted Nancy then that counts for just that interaction not all. Same goes for if what he did with Nancy was totally fine.