Trump destroying Nuclear agreement with Iran.

a reply to: nemonimity

Your 1st mistake was posting something from CNN,might as well of written about the National Inquirer as well,think before touching keyboard

originally posted by: nemonimity
a reply to: whywhynot

I question your reading comprehension, I do specifically state why doing what he's doing is bad.

Reading comprehension? I started blacking out after the first paragraph... If you want to be taken more seriously then don't start a thread with a tirade of insults.

originally posted by: nemonimity
a reply to: whywhynot

you mad.

Why would I be mad? It is you who cannot support your own posting with any facts. It’s a joke. Haha LOL. Sad!

a reply to: nemonimity

Thank you for the rant. Well said. The only plan for Trump is a simple one. Undo every action or law by the black president. No matter who gets hurt. He was elected to destroy.

a reply to: MOMof3

My reply would be phrased differently from a different prospective.

Yes it was most certainly a rant. A major plan of Trump is to undo every illegal action of the former President. (No one that matters care about his skin color). He was elected to destroy corrupt politicians that make up a large share of DC, undo illegal actions of former administrations, and make America great again.

originally posted by: Woodcarver
a reply to: nemonimity

So you're not going to post what our deal with Iran is? You just hate Trump? Do you understand the deal with Iran and why it is not in our best interest? Will you take the time to go and find the wording of the deal that we made with them, and post it here? So maybe Talk about the deal and not just how much you hate Trump?

There's actually a pretty simple reason that the deal is in our best interests. The rest of the world wants the deal, they're not willing to side with us and use sanctions anymore. The US can either go along with it and get some concessions (which we did) or we can back out and weaken our allies negotiating positions, effectively strengthening the negotiating position for Iran. And, should we not go along with the deal, we stand alone in sanctions, which makes them ineffective. The only thing the US can do here is to go along with the deal unless we're willing to accept a nuclear Iran.

a reply to: matafuchs

No, what Trump is doing is being a typical politican and speaking out both sides of his mouth. He says he wants X, and then he sends it to Congress where it will inevitably fail. This lets him tell his base he's done nothing, while having the political cover to not have to deliver on any of his insane ideas.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
We in the US don't really have to worry about Iran.

But Iran is to Israel like North Korea is to South Korea and Japan.

We really just have to support our allies.

The deal does support our allies, it prvents Iran from getting a nuclear weapon. The worst thing we could do to Israel is to set off a Middle East arms race as everyone rushes to get nuclear weapons. Would Iran be in a better position if non proliferation were to fail, Saudi Arabia got nukes from Palestine, Iran built their own, and every other power in the region started a nuclear program?

That's what's going to happen if the Iran deal fails.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
We make foreign policy with North Korea with Japan and South Korea in mind.

But when we do the same with Iran with Israel in mind, it's bad some how.

I do understand why, and I find it nauseating.

In North Korea we had a deal to stop them from getting nukes too. Then we broke it because W thought we could overthrow them instead, and that missile defense would be able to stop nukes before they could get them built.

How did that one turn out?

Maybe we should stick to our deals and nations won't attempt to become nuclear armed.

originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: Painterz

Almost as astonishing as how many Obama supporters believe the deal did anything but give Iran access to a ton of money.

Money is a good way to convince people they're better off working with you than against you.

originally posted by: matafuchs
The deal should never have been made because they are still holding US citizens.

One has nothing to do with the other. You're conflating issues. It's not in the US's interest to use our leverage on those citizens, vs shaping national policy.

Tom Leher - "We Will All Go Together When We Go"

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originally posted by: Aazadan

originally posted by: DBCowboy
We in the US don't really have to worry about Iran.

But Iran is to Israel like North Korea is to South Korea and Japan.

We really just have to support our allies.

The deal does support our allies, it prvents Iran from getting a nuclear weapon. The worst thing we could do to Israel is to set off a Middle East arms race as everyone rushes to get nuclear weapons. Would Iran be in a better position if non proliferation were to fail, Saudi Arabia got nukes from Palestine, Iran built their own, and every other power in the region started a nuclear program?

That's what's going to happen if the Iran deal fails.

Funny, Israel supports Trumps decision.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
Funny, Israel supports Trumps decision.

Israel's position is they want the US to renegotiate with the precondition that the US will only talk if Iran recognizes Israel as a country, and admits they have a right to exist.

Basically, Israel is asking the impossible, because Israel would like to go to war with Iran. They support what makes that more likely.

a reply to: nemonimityfirst off we should not have been in this agreement with iran in first place.
then kidnapped our navy personnel and obumo gave them a plane load of cash as a ransom then lied about it saying that was money iran payed for fighter planes we did not deliver. trump did the right thing here trying to fix prior idiots smurf-ups.
i think obama should have to pay back that plane load of cash. 1 of the things marines are famous for is stooping muslim turds from taking our sailors and ships holding them for ransom.

a reply to: proteus33

then kidnapped our navy personnel and obumo gave them a plane load of cash as a ransom

No. Not really.

Not sure why this is a surprise. Trump's agenda (aside from building an imaginary wall), is to simply undo anything Obama did. In fact, I am beginning to think that is the only purpose he ran - to undo anything Obama put into place. Doesn't matter if it was good, bad or indifferent. It's an unhealthy obsession. Perhaps Trump can spend some time creating new ideas and put them into place, rather than go with the "if Obama did it, I'll undo it even if I have to create 8,000 executive orders" plan.

Funny, Israel supports Trumps decision.

And at any other point with any other topic, you almost certainly slam any comments, decision, or plan Israel made. Yes? But this is an exception? How very hypocritical of you. : )

Gun sights are on Iran, which dares to sell their oil for whatever currency they choose & deciding for themselves how to run their nations' economies, rather than submit to the international private banks
The war agenda is, as always, to force Iran's oil to be sold only for US dollars
So off to war your children must go, to spill their blood for the money-junkies' gold. We barely survived the last two world wars. In the nuclear/bioweapon age, are they willing to risk incinerating the whole planet just to feed their greed?

The cancellation of the Nuclear Deal with Iran will have only 1 effect, if any, sudden spike in nuclear weapons development in Iran and possibly the nuclear weapons development for the armed forces of Venezuela!