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President Trump is Cancelling the Illegal ObamaCare CSR Insurance Company Payments

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posted on Oct, 13 2017 @ 07:38 AM
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a reply to: abe froman

That lead to millions of people losing their subsidies , which will be an immediate negative issue that will be laid at trumps/gops feet....

Why do you think they won’t repeal it ???

Because they know it will hurt a lot of people and their family members , all while premiums don’t drop an inch..

Trump just gave ALOT of people , quite a few who voted for him a tangible reason to hate him..




posted on Oct, 13 2017 @ 07:57 AM
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The Republicans better start passing some legislation that can rein Trump in. If they keep letting him do whatever he wants via Executive Orders it's going to end costing them the mid-terms.



posted on Oct, 13 2017 @ 08:30 AM
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I don't recall you calling out Obama's tyranny which is that actual root of this issue.

Reply to Gryphon66
edit on 13-10-2017 by Middleoftheroad because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 13 2017 @ 08:39 AM
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a reply to: carewemust

He does this and opens the market to allow more competition. Smart. Also, the money never should have been given away in the first place. 7 billion a year in non appropriated funds. That's Obama for ya! Then the left cries that Trump is writing law with executive orders lol.



posted on Oct, 13 2017 @ 08:46 AM
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originally posted by: Oldtimer2
a reply to: FyreByrd

How can it be a law if the taxpayers didn't have a vote?


So you're not aware of how a republic works?



posted on Oct, 13 2017 @ 08:52 AM
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a reply to: Middleoftheroad

I do recall the republican congress not attempting to work with Obama on at least trying to negotiate some conservative reinforcements. I do recognize the republican congress not doing a thing now as well. Its not Trump whom is the issue Its the republican congress. Heck even while the democrat party is bad mouthing trump since election day he and there minority rule has gotten more done together than the entire Republican side.
Its time to send the party of no packing. If they would have done something as they promised we wouldnt even be having this conversation.

Heck if they had tried to work with Obama on fixing it then i think we would have an awesome health care plan in place. Its why we have a left and right so we can have a heart in the middle. If the right hand is flailing about the left hand is doing whatever it wants.
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posted on Oct, 13 2017 @ 09:00 AM
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a reply to: Xcalibur254

Lmao..

Who do you think is getting trump to make these moves?!?!

Trump doesn’t personally care about cutting subsidies.. if anything I bet they scape goat him with all their garbage policies.. then pretend it was all him when it explodes.



posted on Oct, 13 2017 @ 09:01 AM
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a reply to: Middleoftheroad

BWAHAHAHA..

Obamas tyranny..

Yea..

Because obama tried to pull Fox news’s licenses.. and told the nfl who they should fire..

Obama was only a tyrant in right wing world.. aka fantasy land.



posted on Oct, 13 2017 @ 09:07 AM
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a reply to: Middleoftheroad

Obamacare was passed with 60%+ votes from Congress.



posted on Oct, 13 2017 @ 09:36 AM
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a reply to: JoshuaCox

Despite getting rid of Bannon, Trump is clearly still taking cues from those at the head of the Alt-right. Despite having an abysmal approval rating he still thinks that he was elected because of those ideas and not the fact that he wasn't Hillary.

Just look at the other healthcare related EO he passed this week. That wasn't written with the help of establishment Republicans. It was written with the help of Rand Paul. A man whose ACA replacement had pretty much no support from either party.

Trump's gone rogue on the GOP and it's going to cost them in 2020.



posted on Oct, 13 2017 @ 09:56 AM
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taxpayer-funded monthly subsidy (CSR) payments to health insurance companies are being terminated..



The White House announced late this evening that it "cannot lawfully make the cost-sharing reduction payments" to insurance companies under the Affordable Care Act, a decision Democrats condemned as a "spiteful act" that would hike premiums.

President Donald Trump has said he was considering cutting off the cost-sharing reduction payments, which reimburse insurers for lowering out-of-pocket costs for customers, in order to increase pressure on lawmakers to repeal the ACA, also known as Obamacare.


# that guy Trump.

The subsidies make the premiums affordable for a large number of people when otherwise they couldn't afford it bu lowering costs by as much as 2/3; I've seen it, I've used it in the past. This is #d up.

This ahole is sabotaging for political purpose and playing with people's lives just because he personally wants to get rid of the ACA so badly.

He doesn't give a # about people just his own desires and he'll throw people under the bus to get his way. That he's putting people at risk for his own stupid selfishness should anger anyone.



posted on Oct, 13 2017 @ 10:06 AM
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originally posted by: ravenshadow13
a reply to: Noncents

My income is right around this margin.

This means my deductible would be $4,000 instead of $1,000. $4,000 is more than I have in my bank account. If something happens to me like an accident or if I need a surgery, I’m toast. There’s no way I’d ever reach a deductible of $4,000 in a year unless something horrible happened, which means that some of the care that I do receive regularly would be at full cost of $150 for certain weekly PT services which is more than I can afford at my salary.

Without some of the ACÁ policies the costs would be closer to $300 a week which is obviously even worse.

But that isn’t a concern for you I’m sure.

Hence why fortunately I’m on Medicaid. Truly this is just going to push more people back onto the Medicaid and disability system whose incomes are close to the $15-$20k range. And guess what—that’s actually more expensive for taxpayers.

So I mean yeah I guess he didn’t do anything bad except making healthcare unaffordable for lower income Americans but whatever right?

So you tell me why a person’s deductible should be 1/5 their annual income? That doesn’t seem unreasonable to you?



There are a lot of die-hard Trump supporters in your exact situation. What do you think will happen when their family members start dying by the tens of thousands from treatable causes? What does Trump think is going to happen when he signs the death warrants of countless 2nd amendment bible/rust belt folks who trusted him to take care of them?

I think he's signing his own at the same time.



posted on Oct, 13 2017 @ 10:09 AM
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originally posted by: abe froman
The ACA, if I remember correctly, was only upheld by the Supreme Court as a tax.

The Trump administration has removed the tax penalty by allowing filers to skip the insurance portion of their tax filings.

The Trump administration is apparently now allowing people to purchase their own non ACA compliant healthcare from insurers.

...and now he's de-funded it.

Ding-dong, the witch is dead.

Anything else we hear from the ACA is just it's death throes.



In this case, defunding means raising costs. It's expected to increase premiums by 20% next year and 25% the following year. In addition to any other increases.


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posted on Oct, 13 2017 @ 10:22 AM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
Trump did the right thing.

This is a step away from socialized medicine. A step the republicans and democrats refused to take.


There is more to come. Repealing ObamaCare is one of his key promises. As I entitled another thread, he is "hastening Obamacare's demise" for months.

REF: www.abovetopsecret.com...

It's great to finally have an elected official who does what he promised on the campaign trail.



posted on Oct, 13 2017 @ 10:28 AM
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originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: DBCowboy
Trump did the right thing.

This is a step away from socialized medicine. A step the republicans and democrats refused to take.


There is more to come. Repealing ObamaCare is one of his key promises. As I entitled another thread, he is "hastening Obamacare's demise" for months.

REF: www.abovetopsecret.com...

It's great to finally have an elected official who does what he promised on the campaign trail.




Yeah, the problem is that this makes it impossible to blame the ACA for rate increases. Now the rate increases can be pinned on the Republican party.

And they will be.



posted on Oct, 13 2017 @ 10:43 AM
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originally posted by: Xcalibur254
The Republicans better start passing some legislation that can rein Trump in. If they keep letting him do whatever he wants via Executive Orders it's going to end costing them the mid-terms.



trump is just following the republican playbook, eliminate anything that helps poor people.....same ole, same ole...Medicaid is next, then Medicare.....thank god the republicans or trump didn't raise the minimum wage, you can't give minimum wage workers hope that they might be able to PAY for medical care, they just can't have any, they should know their place.



posted on Oct, 13 2017 @ 10:44 AM
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originally posted by: Dudemo5

originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: DBCowboy
Trump did the right thing.

This is a step away from socialized medicine. A step the republicans and democrats refused to take.


There is more to come. Repealing ObamaCare is one of his key promises. As I entitled another thread, he is "hastening Obamacare's demise" for months.

REF: www.abovetopsecret.com...

It's great to finally have an elected official who does what he promised on the campaign trail.




Yeah, the problem is that this makes it impossible to blame the ACA for rate increases. Now the rate increases can be pinned on the Republican party.

And they will be.


yup, it's now trumpcare



posted on Oct, 13 2017 @ 10:45 AM
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a reply to: jimmyx

trumpdontcare



posted on Oct, 13 2017 @ 10:50 AM
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This is great news for young and healthy people, who will finally see the cost of healthcare for them drop a small bit. For anyone with pre-existing conditions or already in a high age bracket or poor health, my advise to you (at the direction of the President) is get busy dying.

Has their been a metric of voter pools to see which parties supporters will die in greater numbers. I haven't really dug into it myself, but my gut tells me there's probably a larger percentage of conservative voters that will be dying off from lack of healthcare than liberal voters.



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