The pc crazy hits Canada hard

Is the main requisite of this board to be so easily triggered?
Its 2017, and we have an internet filled with porn yet, delicate snowflakes get upset over their lack of understanding over the English language.
Unless you still use the prefix master rather than mister, you are just showing faux or as the president would term it fake outrage.

a reply to: JohnnyCanuck

Says the white guy...guess you're missing some of the subtleties of Truth and Reconciliation.

Changing words won't do a damn thing for truth or reconciliation, so I think subtlety is the least of your concerns.

a reply to: ketsuko

So what is the Canadian military going to do with their officers? Lots of "chief" going on there.

They'll change it so that they may continue to virtue-signal without actually accomplishing anything. It's cheaper that way.

originally posted by: Garmanarnar
Is the main requisite of this board to be so easily triggered?
Its 2017, and we have an internet filled with porn yet, delicate snowflakes get upset over their lack of understanding over the English language.

Hey this is Canada. We have plenty of real snowflakes here. We don't need your American BS.

a reply to: intrepid

We have plenty of real snowflakes here.

Yeah, more snowflakes are right around the corner.

I'm wagering to bet that we'll see millions of them land upon us by Halloween... time to dig out the mukluks, toque, and the snowblower.

*sigh*

Having read the article, it seems this was something pushed by indigenous people as a result of the use of the word in a derogatory way to kids at school.

With that in mind, what the hell, making the word absent from job descriptions in a school environment seems reasonable, especially as it didn't come from some idiot offendotron weirdo who never did a day's work in his life.

I never met a native American (or Canadian) but frankly, if they are fed up with people using the word chief in this regard, then they have a right to be listened to by the rest of us.

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: ketsuko

So what is the Canadian military going to do with their officers? Lots of "chief" going on there.

They'll change it so that they may continue to virtue-signal without actually accomplishing anything. It's cheaper that way.

Unless the article is actually about the school board, and not the military. Though one would actually have to read the piece...where it says "The Toronto school board will no longer have chief financial or chief communications officers, as the board finalizes efforts to change titles out of respect for Indigenous people."...to reach that conclusion.
Nice try, though.

a reply to: JohnnyCanuck

Unless the article is actually about the school board, and not the military. Though one would actually have to read the piece...where it says "The Toronto school board will no longer have chief financial or chief communications officers, as the board finalizes efforts to change titles out of respect for Indigenous people."...to reach that conclusion.
Nice try, though.

I wasn't commenting on the article, genius.

a reply to: JohnnyCanuck

How does having chief in the job title or not stop children from calling each other names?

Last I checked there are plenty of insults that kids use that never found their way into anyone's job title. It doesn't seem to have made any difference to the kids.

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: JohnnyCanuck

Unless the article is actually about the school board, and not the military. Though one would actually have to read the piece...where it says "The Toronto school board will no longer have chief financial or chief communications officers, as the board finalizes efforts to change titles out of respect for Indigenous people."...to reach that conclusion.
Nice try, though.

I wasn't commenting on the article, genius.

I'm sorry...I thought we were on-topic. To be fair, you really ought to let us know when you start to wander.

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: JohnnyCanuck
How does having chief in the job title or not stop children from calling each other names?
Last I checked there are plenty of insults that kids use that never found their way into anyone's job title. It doesn't seem to have made any difference to the kids.

You'd best read the article as the Elder provides an explanation.

a reply to: JohnnyCanuck

I'm sorry...I thought we were on-topic. To be fair, you really ought to let us know when you start to wander.

I was replying to someone else in a somewhat pithy way. But yeah, that's fair. I didn't mean to impugn your intelligence for making an honest mistake.

You two behave or I'll smack ya'll with a beaver tail. A succulent, sweet, tasty beaver til.

originally posted by: JohnnyCanuck
So, while this left me kinda scratching my head (and one MUST read the article for proper context), if it helps out just a little, then why not?

Because all the efforts to accommodate the offended are just diverting tax dollars to stuff that only makes a few people temporarily *happy.*


New business cards, directories, door plates...anything with 'chief' will have to be reproduced and reprinted. And, it's petty, tbh. Anyone that feels this repairs some injustice wasn't feeling all that much injustice to begin with, IMO.

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On a side note...I was in Toronto, last week, and it sure is a beautiful city. I love the midcentury modern architecture and the Ontario Science Center is fabulous.

a reply to: MotherMayEye

I can see the Science Center from my balcony! Toronto is a very beautiful place, there is so much to see and explore in this great city.

a reply to: intrepid

Awe come on now. Beaver tail is nasty, but the rest of the meat is not bad. Let's get real. Slap them with the whole Beaver.

So much angst over nothing. Removing "chief" from titles is a meaningless gesture, but if makes some happy. I hope older folks are going through their childhood hoard of junk and burning their "Big Chief" tablets.

It's time for people here and in Canada to move beyond the past and leave the guilt for things done by people before we were born aside as common sense would dictate. We can't change history, but we can move beyond it.

a reply to: knowledgehunter0986

Ah, lucky you! I loved Toronto. Wouldn't mind living there!

Two days there wasn't enough!

a reply to: JohnnyCanuck

Can the dear children talk about what their military daddies do and what rank they have? Will that offend someone who may be indigenous?

"My daddy is a chief petty office ..."

"RACIST! I AM OFFENDED!"

a reply to: Blaine91555

Beavertail:



John Pinnete does a beavertail bit. Starts about 2:30



Hilarious.

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This is Ontario. Some look for ways to offend people. Here we look for ways to avoid it.

originally posted by: JohnnyCanuck

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: JohnnyCanuck

originally posted by: Bluntone22
The word is not even a native word, it's English.
This crap makes my head hurt. Let's find problems where none exist.

Well, maybe some do exist. We all know that putting an ironic twist on a word can turn an honorific into an insult. Canada is currently engaged in trying to fix what's wrong with the way in which our Indigenous population has been and continues to be treated. It really is a daunting task to repair the results of 500 years of inequity, but we are trying to set a baseline from which we can all move forward. Some of these efforts are a little tough to understand...but sometimes we don't get to make the calls.

So, while this left me kinda scratching my head (and one MUST read the article for proper context), if it helps out just a little, then why not?

If anyone was to champion this cause, I knew it would be you. Glad you didn't disappoint!

I do a certain amount of work in the First Nations community, and as an archaeologist, I also take some shots from them. That compels me to try to think outside of my cultural experience and see where they are coming from. That's not a bad thing, especially in a time where we are trying to align our practice with the recent Truth and Reconciliation Commission and UNDRIP. Little things may mean a great deal, and every journey begins with a single step.

And while we are discussing the weight of words...what you slung out as an insult, I am actually taking as a compliment.

Happy trails, eh?

We are diametrically opposed in our political thoughts, so it only makes sense that you would be happy being the antithesis of what I believe. I'm happy being me, and I sure hope you are happy being you. I will say a prayer for you that you live through all the blood loss from the bleeding heart. Good day eh.

a reply to: MotherMayEye

2 days is not nearly enough!! There is way too much to see and too many hidden gems around the city!

If you need any recommendations the next time you are in town, for anything, let me know!