The pc crazy hits Canada hard

Ok, the indigenous folks don't like "chief", but a hoser is still a hoser, right?

a reply to: Bluntone22

So what you all gonna call the fire chief ? How about " Main fire Dude". I thought we were bad, your southern neighbor.

originally posted by: underpass61
Ok, the indigenous folks don't like "chief", but a hoser is still a hoser, right?

No doot aboot it.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: zosimov
Well good luck doing any business in Canada now..

Our old HQ was in Cleveland. You know, where the Indians kinda play baseball.

Except when they play the Yankees, then they just mail it in.

The Tribe gave the Cleveland fans hope, then snatched it right back.

My entire career I was known as the Chief Financial Officer.

And now I'm just gonna be known as a Hoser Financial Officer.

I feel so... violated eh.











But then again, I'm retired.

So I can just spend my days drowning my sorrows in a pack or two or twelve of Moosehead beer.

So there's that.

originally posted by: openyourmind1262
a reply to: Bluntone22

So what you all gonna call the fire chief ? How about " Main fire Dude". I thought we were bad, your southern neighbor.

Fire Warrior?

originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
a reply to: JohnnyCanuck

So maybe we should just scrub every word that could apply to / come from them, and forget they ever existed in the process? They'd prefer that?? It's not like there are many around to notice (at least not from FL to MI).

Or you could open your ears and act accordingly. Some just call that good manners.

It's a NothingBurger:
www.theguardian.com - The indigenous land rights ruling that could transform Canada...
www.smithsonianmag.com - One of Canada’s Biggest Cities Just Officially Admitted That It Was Built on Unceded Aboriginal Territory...

It pales in comparison to what happened. They stormed those lands and now essentially own everything. The native people had their lives turned upside down and they've received little in return.

It looks like it's boiling over. The governemnt is trying to hold onto land and limit what hte indigenous peoples can do with their land. It's a long enduring battle between economics and nature.

It's described--in the first link above--this way:

Because the government agenda is not just about extinguishing indigenous land rights. It’s about extinguishing another way of seeing the world. About extinguishing economic models that prize interdependence with the living world, that recognise prosperity isn’t secured by the endless depletion of resources. And about extinguishing a love for the land, a love rooted in the unique boundaries and beauty of a place.

“The land is the most important thing,” Tsilhqot’in chief Roger William told me. “Our songs, our place names, our history, our stories – they come from the land that we are a part of. All of it is interrelated with who we are.”

originally posted by: burdman30ott6
The Tribe gave the Cleveland fans hope, then snatched it right back.

For Cleveland there's a cloud in every silver lining.

a reply to: Ghost147

Having a higher, respected position is offensive to those who do not have that higher, respected position, especially as all too many conclude that way too many of those higher, respected positions are filled by white males, and that in and of itself is some kind of evil conspiracy as far as they are concerned.

Ergo, "chief" becomes offensive.

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Ghost147
Having a higher, respected position is offensive to those who do not have that higher, respected position, especially as all too many conclude that way too many of those higher, respected positions are filled by white males, and that in and of itself is some kind of evil conspiracy as far as they are concerned.
Ergo, "chief" becomes offensive.

Sure. Either that or a bunch of Indigenous kids in Toronto schools are tired of being called 'Chief' and the Board is trying to work towards that...just guessing.

a reply to: JohnnyCanuck

“Chief”has been used in French and English since long before Canada was discovered, long before it was appropriated by indigenous peoples. If anything it’s a compliment.

a reply to: LesMisanthrope

So has "boy" but use that in the wrong area and see what happens.

originally posted by: intrepid
a reply to: LesMisanthrope

So has "boy" but use that in the wrong area and see what happens.

I’m not sure fear is a reason to eliminate the word from common usage.

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: intrepid
a reply to: LesMisanthrope

So has "boy" but use that in the wrong area and see what happens.

I’m not sure fear is a reason to eliminate the word from common usage.

Except that it's not getting eliminated from common usage.

But hey, what's ATS without a little hyperbole to spice things up right ?

originally posted by: CranialSponge

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: intrepid
a reply to: LesMisanthrope

So has "boy" but use that in the wrong area and see what happens.

I’m not sure fear is a reason to eliminate the word from common usage.

Except that it's not getting eliminated from common usage.

But hey, what's ATS without a little hyperbole to spice things up right ?

Oh you know what hyperbole is. I guess there is no point in explaining the subtlety of language to you.

So what is the Canadian military going to do with their officers? Lots of "chief" going on there.

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: JohnnyCanuck

“Chief”has been used in French and English since long before Canada was discovered, long before it was appropriated by indigenous peoples. If anything it’s a compliment.

Says the white guy...guess you're missing some of the subtleties of Truth and Reconciliation.

originally posted by: ketsuko
So what is the Canadian military going to do with their officers? Lots of "chief" going on there.

Yup. Not a lot of them serving in the TDSB.

a reply to: JohnnyCanuck

So basically, private business can't use "chief" because an indigenous person might not want to have a title with chief in it?

But it's OK in the military because not many indigenous like to defend their right to be offended?

Seems legit.

originally posted by: ketsuko
So what is the Canadian military going to do with their officers? Lots of "chief" going on there.

Nothing.

It's just the Toronto school board that's making some internal changes for themselves.

The rest of the country will continue to keep calm and carry on.