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Kaspersky Antivirus Software a Global Spy Tool

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posted on Oct, 12 2017 @ 03:46 AM
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D'OH!

Now who in their right mind would ever suspect an anti-virus maker of using their product to spy on people?

Macaffee would never have done that! Norton? He is a liberal. He would never do that. Kapersky? He is a Russian. They are independent people. They wouldn't do what Putin wants. Noooooooo siree.

Wall Street Journal article, linked:

And, on a related note, Symantec is no longer allowing governments to review the source code of its software.
edit on 12-10-2017 by Namdru because: add link to Symantec story




posted on Oct, 12 2017 @ 03:50 AM
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a reply to: Namdru

Spy Spin Fuels Anti-Kaspersky Campaign


Since May 2017 Congress made noise about banning Kaspersky products from the U.S. Defense Department and other government entities. In September the Department of Homeland Security order all federal agencies to remove Kaspersky software from their system. Kaspersky Lab makes some 60% of its total revenues in the United States. The DHS order and the resulting press reports will do very serious damage to its business. It will help to sell competing U.S. products.

Eugene Kaspersky, the owner of the company, has offered to provide the source code of the products for review by U.S. government specialists. He also offered to testify before Congress. Both to no avail.

There is fear mongering, without any evidence, that Kaspersky may cooperate with the Russian government. Similar accusations could be made about any anti-virus product. U.S. and British spies systematically target all anti-virus products and companies:
The British spy agency regarded the Kaspersky software in particular as a hindrance to its hacking operations and sought a way to neutralize it.
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edit on Thu Oct 12 2017 by DontTreadOnMe because: trimmed overly long quote IMPORTANT: Using Content From Other Websites on ATS



posted on Oct, 12 2017 @ 03:51 AM
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a reply to: Namdru

Who can argue with that logic?



posted on Oct, 12 2017 @ 04:10 AM
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Fake news I'm afraid.



posted on Oct, 12 2017 @ 04:15 AM
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a reply to: CriticalStinker

I'm just suprised nobody said it sooner. In 2015 Kapersky was in the English-language news a fair amount, I seem to recall. At the time I thought, "What?! Nobody is calling this guy out for being Putin's man? I can't believe it!"

The fact of the matter is, the Russians are a wickedly wise, old people. They've been barking at our backdoor all along, cold war or no cold war, and they'll keep barking as long as they're there, across the Bering strait.



posted on Oct, 12 2017 @ 04:15 AM
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a reply to: Namdru

To be safe, we must assume that they are all suspect. It was years ago even before the news that the NSA had a few dozen of spyware programs going around that Norton was revealed to have sneaky programs. And what about even older suspicions about Apple and Microsoft? There is no reason to fully put trust into any of them but to except that the surveillance state is here and everything electronic down to TV, phones and toasters are listening devices of some sort.

Welcome to Big Brother's Shop of Tricks.



posted on Oct, 12 2017 @ 04:17 AM
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a reply to: Aliensun




Welcome to Big Brother's Shop of Tricks.


Welcome to my cell phone and personal computer. My bag of goodies is their bag of tricks.



posted on Oct, 12 2017 @ 04:30 AM
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a reply to: Namdru
This story came out months ago (maybe sooner).

If you're interested in this, read into android, Apple, certain laptop manufacturers... The list goes on.

All I'm saying is apparently its not to big of a deal to anyone.(though it should be).
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posted on Oct, 12 2017 @ 04:37 AM
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I still find it astonishing the Fed is using off the shelf anti-virus, the fact they were using a russian companies product is more mind boggling when you consider all the gruff thats being thrown around between the two countries in the last few years.

How have we gone this long without the fed spending the money to develop their own, especially for machines with classified information on them.



posted on Oct, 12 2017 @ 05:39 AM
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Heh, no sense being worried about AV software when Windows 10 itself is a gigantic piece of spyware.



posted on Oct, 12 2017 @ 05:45 AM
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Just about every piece of software and hardware out there is compromised, by design, for "intelligence" agencies to gain access....with a warrant of course!.....in the event of someone being naughty.


So, is Kaspersky Labs AV any more dangerous to use than other domestic products? Of course not and reading a few articles lately on this matter, once again they don't seem to have presented any evidence to back up any claims, but hey, any excuse to bash Russia again in the press.



posted on Oct, 12 2017 @ 06:24 AM
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originally posted by: Britguy
Just about every piece of software and hardware out there is compromised, by design, for "intelligence" agencies to gain access....with a warrant of course!.....in the event of someone being naughty.


So, is Kaspersky Labs AV any more dangerous to use than other domestic products? Of course not and reading a few articles lately on this matter, once again they don't seem to have presented any evidence to back up any claims, but hey, any excuse to bash Russia again in the press.


I don't know what more Kaspersky could do to prove they are not stooges of Russia. He has offered up his source code and is willing to testify to Congress. That the IA of the West seem to not want to use it makes me think they can't use it to spy on the public.

WikiLeaks showed the world all the dirty tools they use, you'd think they'd be more pissed off at Assange than Kaspersky. Makes you go hmmmmmm.



posted on Oct, 12 2017 @ 06:54 AM
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a reply to: pavil

"I don't know what more Kaspersky could do to prove they are not stooges of Russia. He has offered up his source code and is willing to testify to Congress."

Knowing little about computers and software, it seems possible to me that what when you load a program such as Kaspersky, which is what I have, that program communicates with the "home office" to register your machine and to provide updates. With that capability, the "home office" can insert instructions as it wishes. If it has detected a choice residence of desired info, it may ask the machine to send back to it whatever it would want of its files, etc. So yes, the program you get in the package is safe but capable of being hacked by the host at any time thereafter.



posted on Oct, 12 2017 @ 07:00 AM
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Germany: 'No evidence' Kaspersky software used by Russians for hacks


Germany’s BSI federal cyber agency said on Wednesday it had no evidence to back media reports that Russian hackers used Kaspersky Lab antivirus software to spy on U.S. authorities.

“There are no plans to warn against the use of Kaspersky products since the BSI has no evidence for misconduct by the company or weaknesses in its software,” BSI said in an emailed response to questions about the latest media reports.

“The BSI has no indications at this time that the process occurred as described in the media.”



posted on Oct, 12 2017 @ 07:10 AM
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originally posted by: theultimatebelgianjoke
a reply to: Namdru

Spy Spin Fuels Anti-Kaspersky Campaign

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Eugene Kaspersky, the owner of the company, has offered to provide the source code of the products for review by U.S. government specialists. He also offered to testify before Congress. Both to no avail.
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The British spy agency regarded the Kaspersky software in particular as a hindrance to its hacking operations and sought a way to neutralize it.
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In February 2015 Kaspersky announced that it found U.S. and UK government spying and sabotage software infecting computers in some 42 countries. It released a detailed report about the "Equation group", its name for NSA and GCHQ spy tools. In June 2015 Kaspersky Lab detected a breach in its own systems by an Israeli government malware. It published an extensive autopsy of the breach and the malware programs used in it.


therein is the truth of the matter, op's article shows propaganda alive and well today.
first reply to the op reveals the web's ability to dig out the truth.
edit on 12-10-2017 by NobodiesNormal because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 12 2017 @ 07:24 AM
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originally posted by: Aliensun
a reply to: pavil

"I don't know what more Kaspersky could do to prove they are not stooges of Russia. He has offered up his source code and is willing to testify to Congress."

Knowing little about computers and software, it seems possible to me that what when you load a program such as Kaspersky, which is what I have, that program communicates with the "home office" to register your machine and to provide updates. With that capability, the "home office" can insert instructions as it wishes. If it has detected a choice residence of desired info, it may ask the machine to send back to it whatever it would want of its files, etc. So yes, the program you get in the package is safe but capable of being hacked by the host at any time thereafter.


Or an even more logical conclusion is that Kaspersky detects all the NSA crap that is on a PC as well. It's been show to detect such stuff. And you wonder why spy agencies don't want you to use it?



posted on Oct, 12 2017 @ 08:51 AM
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a reply to: Namdru

TBH, I don't really trust any of these anti-virus softwares. More likely put virus on your system then say you need to upgrade to clean it. Those are the ones that let you download and check you system.. the report comes back saying there's certain bugs and whatever in order for you to go upgrade but when you check with a free anti-virus there's no virus or bugs!



posted on Oct, 12 2017 @ 09:48 AM
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This is just a bunch of bull**** anti-Russia lies.

Germany’s BSI federal cyber agency said on Wednesday it had no evidence to back media reports that Russian hackers used Kaspersky Lab antivirus software to spy on U.S. authorities.

“There are no plans to warn against the use of Kaspersky products since the BSI has no evidence for misconduct by the company or weaknesses in its software,”

“The BSI has no indications at this time that the process occurred as described in the media.”
Reuters

First it was "Russia hacked the election!", which fizzled away into nothingness after it was made blatantly clear that it never happened, then it was "Russia bought Facebook ads to manipulate the election!", which again fizzled away into nothingness as it was entirely made up in the first place, and now this.
The goal of TPTB was to overthrow Assad, then Iran. Russia stood in their way, so now you're being bombarded with anti-Russia hysteria from all the MSM outlets to discredit them and turn the population against anything Russian. I guarantee this story is going to eventually fizzle away like the rest.



posted on Oct, 12 2017 @ 11:20 AM
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This is just a bunch of bull**** anti-Russia lies.


Maybe so. But big tech companies all ahve bull**** liars and spooks in their upper ranks, especially the antivirus business. I used to work for them. It's the nature of the business.

Give me one good reason Kapersky is any different. Even OpenBSD had a spy working on their code. He disclosed his identity as soon as his NDA expired. If it happens to the most secure open-source operating system in the world, it's going to happen to some pi55-ant antivirus software with dozens, if not hundreds of developers involved.

At least, that's my educated guess.



posted on Oct, 12 2017 @ 11:20 AM
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This is just a bunch of bull**** anti-Russia lies.


Maybe so. But big tech companies have bull**** liars and spooks in their upper ranks, especially the antivirus business. I used to work for them. It's the nature of the business.

Give me one good reason Kapersky is any different. Even OpenBSD had a spy working on their code. He disclosed his identity as soon as his NDA expired. If it happens to the most secure open-source operating system in the world, it's going to happen to some pi55-ant antivirus software with dozens, if not hundreds of developers involved.

At least, that's my educated guess.
edit on 12-10-2017 by Namdru because: ah-ha



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