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According to Donald Trump he has one of the highest IQs. Wait, what?

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posted on Oct, 14 2017 @ 10:18 AM
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a reply to: xstealth

The estate tax only applies to extremely rich people. Yet us peasants are still required to pay gift taxes...

Trump is a champion for the rich and big corporations.

Who gives a damn about environmental protections when they hurt profits?

He is not stupid thats for sure.
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posted on Oct, 14 2017 @ 10:34 AM
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a reply to: PublicOpinion

Well... I am STILL trying figure out if that Chinese pilot Kamikazed into that Orion on purpose or was HE displaying THEIR idealized version of expert flight...



posted on Oct, 14 2017 @ 10:35 AM
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a reply to: BeefNoMeat

Now I feel bad again I 'm only 115...NO math so no pilot...



posted on Oct, 14 2017 @ 10:58 AM
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he single handily has defeated nearly everyone he's gone up against including the NFL.

He's not a good speaker and he's not articulate, he speaks on an elementary level, but on purpose, I think.


Actually he lost against the NFL - twice. Which is why he is seeking revenge. You have a vengeful President.. while some of you, while buffing your guns say "Well hot damn it's about time!", other more-critically thinking people are saying "Hmm.. President with an extremely thin skin, massive ego and likes to get even - what could possibly go wrong?"

You are fooling yourself saying he talks that way on purpose - he has always spoken that way. I can't believe the lengths his supporters go to try and justify his actions (and inaction), and even the way he talks. "Oh.. he is a New Yorker.. that is why!" Please.. the excuses just go on and on.



posted on Oct, 14 2017 @ 01:56 PM
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a reply to: DbDraad



Not much, but to be really good you can't be stupid.

Fair enough.


But, I'm still not convinced he has as high an IQ as he claims.

-dex



posted on Oct, 14 2017 @ 02:06 PM
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originally posted by: fleabit

he single handily has defeated nearly everyone he's gone up against including the NFL.

He's not a good speaker and he's not articulate, he speaks on an elementary level, but on purpose, I think.


Actually he lost against the NFL - twice. Which is why he is seeking revenge. You have a vengeful President.. while some of you, while buffing your guns say "Well hot damn it's about time!", other more-critically thinking people are saying "Hmm.. President with an extremely thin skin, massive ego and likes to get even - what could possibly go wrong?"

You are fooling yourself saying he talks that way on purpose - he has always spoken that way. I can't believe the lengths his supporters go to try and justify his actions (and inaction), and even the way he talks. "Oh.. he is a New Yorker.. that is why!" Please.. the excuses just go on and on.


While being thin skinned is not necessarily a sign of a low IQ, I think your thoughts are well expressed by this cartoon:




-dex



posted on Oct, 14 2017 @ 02:23 PM
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a reply to: ABQ29

Thanks for posting. I think it's important to get as many points of view as possible on these topics, even if we can't all agree.



On that note, there have been studies which suggest that financial success is nearly ensured in the IQ range of 120-130. If you are lower, you just don't have the aptitude. If you are higher, you probably see the world in a different light and your priorities fall in different places. Ted Kaczynski is a great example.

It would be interesting to see that research. If you can find a link that would be great.

Of course IQ is only one factor in financial success. There are certain personality issues that come into play as well. And I think they may have more bearing on Trump's success than his intellect.



I think its safe to say Trump at a very, bare minimum is at 120. I also have a unique perspective working in an office full of scientists - members of what's called the "cognitive elite". According to the statistics, most of the people I work with are in the 130-140 range. I'd say Trump is probably quite a bit higher than that, and 148 would be a very good estimate. I think we can all agree here the man is manipulating and calculated in his moves. I've only met a couple of people on his level in my lifetime. I'd say 155 would be a better estimate. This is coming from a moderate who did not vote and does not believe in democracy.

While I respect your opinion, I have to disagree with your estimate. I'm willing to say that he has a normal, perhaps slightly higher than normal IQ. However, there are other reasoning skills that I think can account for his success in business. And those skills may not translate too well in politics. Having said that, a very high IQ may not translate too well into politics either.

-dex



posted on Oct, 14 2017 @ 02:43 PM
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a reply to: jrod

Who cares? Double taxation is wrong, regardless whether the person being taxed is rich or not.



posted on Oct, 14 2017 @ 03:23 PM
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Hopefully there's a question on the IQ test regarding who the president of US territories is.



posted on Oct, 14 2017 @ 05:58 PM
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Cute thread -- I enjoyed browsing this.

In my experience, someone who is REALLY SMART, has a handle on the true meaning of Intelligence Quotient -- realizes how utterly meaningless it is in terms of goodness, abilities, success, awareness, and general life experience -- it is stupid to even talk or mention IQ in any meaningful conversation. Stupid and embarrassing.

People learning their IQ scores, the IQ scores of others, and fretting about how high or low that score may be -- well -- stop it!!! You are definitely acting stupidly (irrespective of what you may have scored on some test.)

But -- as I said, it is an interesting thread here.



posted on Oct, 14 2017 @ 07:47 PM
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a reply to: PassiveInductor

I know I've had a lot of fun with this thread.


Now remember, it was Donald Trump who brought up the issue; several times.

I think one conclusion I've come to is that Donald Trump is not book smart. He probably doesn't possess the IQ that he thinks he has. However, he has business leadership skills. And he has a unique vision when it comes to commercialism. His ability to market his name has made him one of the most famous people in the world. He's worth several billions of dollars, partly because he's willing to take risks based on an intuitive understanding of the marketplace.

You can't be stupid to pull off what he's done, including becoming POTUS. However, he doesn't need to be a genius either. And that was my point here. Or, at least it should have been.

Now the question remains, "How well do these business skills apply to the political position of President of the United States?"

Thanks,

-dex



posted on Oct, 14 2017 @ 08:45 PM
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Do y'all honestly believe that the modern "intelligence quotient" is absolutely definitive and comprehensive in nature?

I mean...come on.



posted on Oct, 14 2017 @ 09:00 PM
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a reply to: LesMisanthrope


Says a guy communicating non-locally with thousands of people at a time via invisible strings of ones and zeros.

You're a good writer, Les. You might even be a great writer. Try sleeping on your analogies once in a while. You never know what might happen.



posted on Oct, 14 2017 @ 10:07 PM
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originally posted by: CreationBro
Do y'all honestly believe that the modern "intelligence quotient" is absolutely definitive and comprehensive in nature?

I mean...come on.


It's definitely not comprehensive. According to the Wikipedia article on Wechsler Adult Intelligence Scale, the most common IQ test, the author defines intellect:

The WAIS is founded on Wechsler's definition of intelligence, which he defined as "... the global capacity of a person to act purposefully, to think rationally, and to deal effectively with his environment."


That's about as comprehensive as the IQ gets. Now what that means I don't know...

-dex



posted on Oct, 14 2017 @ 10:20 PM
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Some funny satire from The New Yorker Magazine.


Donald Trump said on Friday that his I.Q. is “even higher” now that he knows that the United States Virgin Islands are part of the United States.

“Quite frankly, a few weeks ago, when I learned that Puerto Rico was a part of the U.S., I thought that that boosted my I.Q. to a whole new level,” Trump said. “Now that I also know about the Virgin Islands, my number must be off the charts.”

He said that he was eager to retake his I.Q. test because of “all the amazing things I learned this week.”


You know I almost fell for this as real news. Not because I thought Trump was that stupid, but because I thought he was showing signs of self-deprecating humor. Oh well...

-dex



posted on Oct, 15 2017 @ 07:44 AM
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originally posted by: DexterRiley
a reply to: PassiveInductor

Now remember, it was Donald Trump who brought up the issue; several times.

You can't be stupid to pull off what he's done, including becoming POTUS. However, he doesn't need to be a genius either. And that was my point here. Or, at least it should have been.

Now the question remains, "How well do these business skills apply to the political position of President of the United States?"


You nail it!

Trump is both an utter MORON in some things and a complete GENIUS in other things.

The question is, what is the exact mashup? And is it good or bad for America and the world? (I wish I was smart enough to say.)

One thing I will say IMO it was idiocy of him to bring IQ scores into the discussion. But maybe that is not a strong indicator of whether he will ultimately be an effective leader. Time will tell (presuming we have any time left!)



posted on Oct, 15 2017 @ 08:59 AM
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a reply to: xstealth

I would applaud Trump if he were to repeal the gift tax but he has NOT and will not.

Isn't an i heritance essentially a gift anyway?

This is a double standard, only the extremely wealthy benefit from nixxing the estate tax, meanwhile the rest of us are on the hook for the gift tax.

Do you get how unfair that is?
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posted on Oct, 15 2017 @ 10:44 AM
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His ability to market his name has made him one of the most famous people in the world


That doesn't mean he's highly intelligent, rather highly obnoxious. I'd like so see some proof that he's truly smart. Sure he sometimes makes strategic decisions in business that make him money, but the reason he's successful at it is that our society allows wealthy business people to be criminals without repercussions.

If he was in prison right now for bribing politicians, as he admitted to on live TV during the debates, no one would be calling him smart.



posted on Oct, 15 2017 @ 10:54 AM
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a reply to: CB328

Had he simply invested his daddycs money in the S&P 500 he would be wealthier.

Paris Hilton has grown her daddy's money at a faster rate than Trump.



posted on Oct, 15 2017 @ 05:40 PM
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but the reason he's successful at it is that our society allows wealthy business people to be criminals without repercussions.

I think that the lack of government prosecution of anyone on Wall Street after the 2008 meltdown proves your point quite well.



If he was in prison right now for bribing politicians, as he admitted to on live TV during the debates, no one would be calling him smart.

I've never thought of that. If someone like me made a definitive statement that I had bribed politicians. I would probably have a knock on my door by the FBI. Then again, no, it would probably be a middle-of-the-night no-knock warrant served by a SWAT Team wielding automatic weapons and attack dogs.

-dex



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