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The Russian Hack Attack

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posted on Oct, 11 2017 @ 12:54 PM
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While many of us have wondered about the whole hacking thing of the DNC and other parts woven into the "Russians did it" narrative some hold that it is true while others deny it . I probably fall more into the camp of them not but try to keep up on the subject despite my ability to understand the IT side of things . Technically speaking to me is like explaining Physics to a dog or a cat . So I wonder around looking for people that come across as trying to be as truthful as possible and who are smart enough to at least try to figure it out .

Like the Las Vegas thing and how the story seems to change and will probably keep changing until the story settles into a conspiracy to feed out key boards with finger tapping for many years to come like JFK or 911 . The Russiangate is one of a variety of issues spread over time and geography and involves many parts and actors and instead of just a lone gunman has spy's and geopolitical and economical maneuvers . These are "THE BIG BOYS " hashing it out and that is what makes it so hard to pin down .

At present I am following a thread at Climate Audit that for the geeks in the house would be heaven . I read it but look to the comment section for my data points .

In his attribution of the DNC hack, Dmitri Alperovitch, of Crowdstrike and the Atlantic Council, linked APT28 (Fancy Bear) to previous hacks at TV5 Monde in France and of the Bundestag in Germany: FANCY BEAR (also known as Sofacy or APT 28) is a separate Russian-based threat actor, which has been active since mid 2000s … FANCY BEAR has also been linked publicly to intrusions into the German Bundestag and France’s TV5 Monde TV station in April 2015. Alperovitch’s identification of these two incidents ought to make them of particular interest for re-examination (CA readers will recall that the mention of Peter Gleick in the forged Heartland memo proved important.) In each case, including the DNC hack, attribution of the TV5 Monde and Bundestag hacks resulted in a serious deterioration of relations between Russia and the impacted nation – arguably the major result of each incident. In today’s post, I’ll re-visit the TV5 Monde hack, which took place in April 2015, almost exactly contemporary with the root9B article discussed in Part 1. It proved to be a very interesting backstory.
climateaudit.org...

MoA (moon of Alabama ) has a new piece up that I found very interesting and one that could shed light or illuminate the subject as a back story for the cui bono . Now don't forget that tptb are puppet controllers and would love to have a simple one like a Hillary or a John McCain rather then a tweeting Trump . He is kind of a wild cannon so it makes their job a bit harder but one I am sure they can manage .

Since May 2017 Congress made noise about banning Kaspersky products from the U.S. Defense Department and other government entities. In September the Department of Homeland Security order all federal agencies to remove Kaspersky software from their system. Kaspersky Lab makes some 60% of its total revenues in the United States. The DHS order and the resulting press reports will do very serious damage to its business. It will help to sell competing U.S. products. Eugene Kaspersky, the owner of the company, has offered to provide the source code of the products for review by U.S. government specialists. He also offered to testify before Congress. Both to no avail. There is fear mongering, without any evidence, that Kaspersky may cooperate with the Russian government. Similar accusations could be made about any anti-virus product. U.S. and British spies systematically target all anti-virus products and companies: The British spy agency regarded the Kaspersky software in particular as a hindrance to its hacking operations and sought a way to neutralize it. ... An NSA slide describing "Project CAMBERDADA" lists at least 23 antivirus and security firms that were in that spy agency's sights. They include the Finnish antivirus firm F-Secure, the Slovakian firm Eset, Avast software from the Czech Republic. and Bit-Defender from Romania. Notably missing from the list are the American anti-virus firms Symantec and McAfee as well as the UK-based firm Sophos. That the NSA and the British GCHQ did not list U.S. and British made anti-virus products on their "to do" list lets one assume that these packages can already be controlled by them.
www.moonofalabama.org...

So do you think there is still reason to think it could have been the Russians that hacked the DNC . Not so much could have but rather would have ? How would they or could they benefit ? My thinking tells me that when the MSM blasts the news cycle with a fact that Russia has or had 50 k $$ in adds on facebook to win the election for DT I can only shake my head in disbelief . Not to the fact they spent some money but that it had any effects on the outcome ...




posted on Oct, 11 2017 @ 01:17 PM
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a reply to: the2ofusr1

Seeing as how they've been demonizing Russia with this for over a year now, and have come up with absolutely no evidence, just wild speculation, I pay it no attention.

Gotta have an enemy. Operation Northwoods is a go.



posted on Oct, 11 2017 @ 01:22 PM
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a reply to: the2ofusr1


Like the Las Vegas thing and how the story seems to change and will probably keep changing until the story settles into a conspiracy to feed out key boards with finger tapping for many years to come like JFK or 911 .

You just added to the avalanche of data burying the truth with another thread about it.

Churnalism someone else called it. The org reasons for the internet was to aid in the search for truth.

Getting harder digging thru the mountain of needles.



posted on Oct, 11 2017 @ 01:55 PM
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a reply to: the2ofusr1

While we're at it, we can throw in the mix the fact that the accusers (US - aplhabet agencies) have been caught with some very questionable tools that discredit their very accusations against Russia.



CIA’s UMBRAGE Allows Agency To Carry Out ‘False Flag’ Cyber Attacks

 


Anything that comes from Crowdstike bears an obvious DNC/anti-russian bias.

DNC Ally Crowdstrike Claimed Two Cases Of "Russian Hacking" - One At Least Was Fake



edit on 11-10-2017 by theultimatebelgianjoke because: Added text



posted on Oct, 11 2017 @ 02:18 PM
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a reply to: intrptr

Well the simple narrative "Russians" is too simple and too stupid . The US complaining about Turkey firing embassy staff while having the FBI/CIA shutting down a Russian complex in California makes my mind jam up and then I plop down a thread like this . I guess I am curious about members and what they think and say more so then the different plots going around . thanks for yours



posted on Oct, 11 2017 @ 02:28 PM
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a reply to: the2ofusr1

How did the Russians hack the DNC locally in the Eastern Standard Time zone with a thumb drive in a computer, as seems to be with some of the evidence?

I yet to hear a compelling rebuttal of this theory.



posted on Oct, 11 2017 @ 04:23 PM
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a reply to: pavil

The time stamping seems to be a point of entry at Climate Audit on a previous post ... Its not a simple issue that can be explained by me but if you go to Climate Audit you will find a thread there that goes through the in's and out's of the matter with a great discussion about it ...



posted on Oct, 11 2017 @ 04:59 PM
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Well the simple narrative "Russians" is too simple and too stupid .

The idea broke from Madame stupid herself on a talk show, didn't it? She needed someone to blame for losing.



posted on Oct, 11 2017 @ 05:02 PM
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originally posted by: the2ofusr1
a reply to: pavil

The time stamping seems to be a point of entry at Climate Audit on a previous post ... Its not a simple issue that can be explained by me but if you go to Climate Audit you will find a thread there that goes through the in's and out's of the matter with a great discussion about it ...


I read it. It is not authoritative and it can't address the data that implies Guiceffer 2 appears to be in the Eastern Time Zone at the time of the hack. He was supposed to be in Romania. Transfer rates don't support an internet hack of the DNC.link

The Forensicstor's site seems to me to be more in depth about it.

Too many gaps in the Official story, especially without analyzing the PCs in question.

Till the Forensicstor's analysis is officially debunked, it appears to be the most plausible. The Forensicstor seems more knowledgeable/believable than Climate Audit in this regard.
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posted on Oct, 11 2017 @ 05:29 PM
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a reply to: Cancerwarrior

CAN'T we just SKIP to the "ALIEN ATTACK" scenario and get it all over with?



posted on Oct, 11 2017 @ 07:49 PM
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a reply to: pavil

Thanks for the input . Climate Audit is all about what happens in the comment section imo ...There are some monsters in there at times . The new thread is ...well new, so some may way in later .



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