NFL Commissioner Goodell Now Agrees with President Trump. PLAYERS MUST STAND.

a reply to: JoshuaCox

People are not robots..and I until we create robot police forces and armies, a human being is still going to have to make the decision to follow whatever “evil “ order is given.. and those human beings are our own fathers , sons, aunts and mothers.


If trump told the army to invade Atlanta and kill everyone. The army refuses to do it..

I think you may want to refresh yourself on the Nuremberg Trials.

originally posted by: XAnarchistX
a reply to: Aazadan

So the "Patriot Protest" with people wearing flags draped around their shoulders?

If they're actual flags, that would violate the flag code.

originally posted by: Aazadan

originally posted by: XAnarchistX
a reply to: Aazadan

So the "Patriot Protest" with people wearing flags draped around their shoulders?

If they're actual flags, that would violate the flag code.

What is a "code" and who does it apply to?

a reply to: Aazadan

In 1968 Abbie Hoffman was arrested, prosecuted, and convicted for wearing an American flag shirt.

A shirt which looked remarkably similar to this one:
Nuge

originally posted by: intrepid
What is a "code" and who does it apply to?

I think it's just a set of rules for how the flag should be displayed. It's not really a law with criminal or even civil penalties attached, more just a list of etiquette as to what is and isn't considered appropriate.

I think most of us can agree that wearing "patriotic" clothing is a fashion faux pas though.

originally posted by: Phage
In 1968 Abbie Hoffman was arrested, prosecuted, and convicted for wearing an American flag shirt.

A shirt which looked remarkably similar to this one:
Nuge

I've never heard of that incident. From what I'm reading here though, back in 1968 the states had flag desecration laws that this fell under. Those were later ruled unconstitutional.

a reply to: Aazadan

The Flag Code has no provision for enforcement but:

(d) The flag should never be used as wearing apparel, bedding, or drapery

(j) No part of the flag should ever be used as a costume or athletic uniform.

Both are in the section, "Respect for flag."

a reply to: Phage

Is there a statute of limitations. Look at this idiot



Or this one.

a reply to: DJW001

Pretty sure there will be a strike now. You can't have a season without players.

sure you can just get replacements, then we can see a fat guy score followed by a fat guy dance.


and stripper cheerleaders from pussycats club.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Aazadan

The Flag Code has no provision for enforcement but:

(d) The flag should never be used as wearing apparel, bedding, or drapery

(j) No part of the flag should ever be used as a costume or athletic uniform.

Again, that's referring to a literal flag. Cloth that is made to look like the flag doesn't fall under those rules.

I'm trying to find the actual definition of a flag, but this will have to do for now.
www.legion.org...

Why is everyone so alarmed and upset about a protest?

I really still don't understand. For point of reference I am a vet and I have a Ginormous American Flag in my place of business. It's the first thing you see when you walk in the door. But America was founded on protest and freedom of speech and the right to demonstrate etc.

So again, why is everyone upset about NFL players kneeling during the anthem? Have we become a nation of snowflakes?

a reply to: amazing

Because if you don't deflect the intent of the protest into some sort of patriotic BS you might have to actually listen to the protest.

a reply to: amazing

I think George Carlin already explained it

a reply to: Aazadan

There is nothing illegal about the wearing or use of these items.

Right. Nor is it illegal to fly a flag at night without illuminating it.
But it is counter to the code.

Nor is it illegal to kneel.

originally posted by: luthier
a reply to: amazing

I think George Carlin already explained it

I guess it just feels like people think protests are wrong. So I guess Jesus, MLK, Gandhi, Rosa Parks, George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Ben Franklin were all wrong. LOL

a reply to: amazing

King George and alike certainly thought so.

originally posted by: luthier
a reply to: amazing

King George and alike certainly thought so.

Yeah, I would think that most people on this thread would have sided with King George in the Revolutionary war. That's a scary thought.

a reply to: amazing

Hey some prolife people are siked trump acted on mandatory birth control even though the evidence shows it drastically lowered abortions.

a reply to: amazing

Because a lot of ignorant and/or racist people don't like the idea of minorities standing up for injustice. Coincidentally, most of these kind of people have never served in the armed forces. If the irony was an ocean we'd all drown in it.

I don't believe in nationalism. And I abhor hypocrisy. Thus it makes perfect sense to me that people would kneel in protest for injustice and inequality in America. America is hardly number one in anything. And that which it does reign supreme I doubt many would want to champion. Even our war machine, in which we are number one, exceeds constitutional authority which states the Federal government shall maintain a military for the defense of the country. Our military goes well beyond a defensive capacity and, in fact, is used in an offensive capacity these days. But I digress. Make love. Not war. Give peace a chance. And all the other stuff that ain't gonna happen during my lifetime.