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Trump Hates First Amendment. Also He's An Idiot.

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posted on Oct, 10 2017 @ 07:34 PM
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originally posted by: theantediluvian
a reply to: loam

The President of the United States stifling political speech is another matter altogether.



Quite right. Only we aren't talking about the same president.

You Can’t Occupy This




H.R. 347, benignly titled the Federal Restricted Buildings and Grounds Improvement Act, passed the House 399-3. Such a lopsided vote suggests that nobody in Congress is bothered by this, on either side of the aisle. When President Obama signed it on March 8, almost nobody seems to have cared.

... the law makes it easier for the government to criminalize protest. Period.





posted on Oct, 10 2017 @ 09:34 PM
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a reply to: Xcalibur254

Now he's just digging his heels in. A stubborn little child having a tantrum.
Also I believe he thinks he was crowned king last January. It was a coronation not an inauguration. He can't seem to grasp that he can't just snap his fingers and have something done.
Does he honestly believe congress is going to change laws to accommodate his whims?



posted on Oct, 10 2017 @ 09:38 PM
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a reply to: seedofchucky

Let me point out to you that they are probably going to go back to the players staying in the lockeroom until after the anthem. Then nobody has to worry.
And people do have a right to protest against an employer. It's called a strike and your rights to do it are protected.



posted on Oct, 10 2017 @ 09:40 PM
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originally posted by: Jefferton
For it being a game of throwing a ball around, and smashing into each other, people are really over-thinking the rest.


Is there a game in there?



posted on Oct, 10 2017 @ 09:43 PM
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a reply to: watchitburn

He's not doing anything because he's totally powerless in this. All he can do is shoot his mouth off and tweet.
No one even going to humor him in his asinine tantrum.



posted on Oct, 10 2017 @ 09:45 PM
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originally posted by: jrod
a reply to: seedofchucky

Had he invested is his daddy's money in the S&P 500, he would be wealthier today, statisically Paris Hilton is a better businessman.
www.yahoo.com...

How many times has he gone bankrupt?

How many people has he ripped off?

I consider him a con man.



Kind of a pussy way to use your money, ain't it?

He'd probably be a flaming lib instead of changing skylines.






posted on Oct, 10 2017 @ 10:00 PM
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originally posted by: Xcalibur254
The ongoing drama that is Trump using the NFL protests to distract from his failing presidency continues. In his latest Tweet on the matter Trump posted:

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So here we have the sitting President demanding that US law be changed so people exercising their First Amendment right can be punished. There's no other way to take this other than Trump hates people expressing their views and he wants to use the government to make them stop.

It's one thing if the owners/NFL want to start levying punishments because of the actions of the players. The players are their employees and subject to their rules and regulations. The First Amendment doesn't protect against that.

It does however protect against the government curtailing free speech. Now while Trump's threat isn't directed at the players it is an attempt to curtail their free speech. He's attempting to blackmail the NFL into stopping the players from protesting.

The funny thing? The NFL gave up their tax exempt status two years ago. So Trump's threat is actually toothless.

That does not however change the fact that the President is going out of his way to stop people from speaking their mind. While some of what Trump has done in the past has been borderline this is a clear threat against the First Amendment. Anyone that defends this move is clearly just a Trump sycophant who will agree with anything he does regardless of the consequences.


he's saying to change the Tax status of the NFL. They are a non profit. And they can be punished. It's a workplace. Just like us poor folk we can't just do or say what we want at work The teams have just sat on their hands mostly. It will change though when/if it starts hurting their wallets enough.



posted on Oct, 10 2017 @ 10:11 PM
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a reply to: DrumJunkie


The NFL voluntarily gave up their non-profit tax status in 2015. Trump is either a liar or...........



posted on Oct, 10 2017 @ 10:21 PM
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a reply to: windword

Definitely...'or'

Trump is talking about tax credits, which they receive in copious amounts. Not tax STATUS.



posted on Oct, 10 2017 @ 10:39 PM
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a reply to: loam


Since the NFL files their taxes as a "taxable entity", wouldn't Trump's call to change the law affect all kinds of corporations, raising taxes for 100s of American corporations, corporations that WH Press Secretary Sarah Sanders insists are being taxed at higher rates than any other county in the civilized western world?



posted on Oct, 10 2017 @ 11:25 PM
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originally posted by: windword
a reply to: loam


Since the NFL files their taxes as a "taxable entity", wouldn't Trump's call to change the law affect all kinds of corporations, raising taxes for 100s of American corporations, corporations that WH Press Secretary Sarah Sanders insists are being taxed at higher rates than any other county in the civilized western world?



Nope, just them, like obama did with the tea party and other conservative entities.





posted on Oct, 10 2017 @ 11:48 PM
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originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: seedofchucky

Let me point out to you that they are probably going to go back to the players staying in the lockeroom until after the anthem. Then nobody has to worry.
And people do have a right to protest against an employer. It's called a strike and your rights to do it are protected.


AHEM depends on what type of strike and the state you reside in. Right to work states...lol good luck.
can i be fired for striking?

Also Therr IS a rule in th eNFL that clearly states th eplayers MUST stand during the ANthem btw. They willstart enforcing it again next week.



posted on Oct, 11 2017 @ 12:47 AM
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a reply to: burgerbuddy


I think, if I remember right, Obama was accused of having the IRS investigate financial wrongful doing of Tea Partiers. He didn't suggest changing the law in order to raise their taxes, to punish them for their political views.



posted on Oct, 11 2017 @ 01:15 AM
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The National Felon League still gets alot of state and federal subsidies.



posted on Oct, 11 2017 @ 01:47 AM
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originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
a reply to: notsure1

If anyone actually cared about what is BLM is supposedly about (well the name of their facade anyways) then there'd be a unified juggernaut of an initiative focused on one unshakable goal: dismantling the War On Drugs. It's the entire basis of the police state. Well that and nowadays the ongoing results of the Mass Contagion Shooter Effect, which the MSM are the chief perpetrators of, but we cant criticize them because they pay phony lip service to liberal /social justice /anti-Trump causes.

But the War On Drugs is what has so many cops pointed directly at minorities / poor people. Where are the banners. All those huge protests this year, how many TOTAL anti-WOD banners have hit the streets???

Well, partisan manipulation can be a subtle thing:

"The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders, raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did." - John Ehrlichman, counsel and Assistant to the President for Domestic Affairs

Fortunate thing that our current President doesn't seem quite so clever.



posted on Oct, 11 2017 @ 02:05 AM
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Is it funny to anyone else that 2/3rd's of NFL players are convicted felons? Would anyone else here agree with me the major problem in black communities is the culture that it enshrines? Would anyone else also agree, if these football players weren't million dollar over paid entertainers, they'd probably be in jail with a bastard child at home with a single mother collecting welfare? In 30 years alone, single parent-hood in the black community jumped over 40% and black men get replaced by the state.

So lets be real NFL players, you don't give a sh*t about your fellow man, your fellow black man, this country or the freedom this nation stands for. You can't go to even 50% of the worlds nations without having the right of free speech. Only in America. Every single person that complains about the flag being racist is an ungrateful turd. But you have the right to be an ungrateful turd...cause this is America, and brave men and women died with that flag on their arms defending that right. And you better not forget it

edit on 11-10-2017 by JoeGee because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 11 2017 @ 02:11 AM
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a reply to: JoeGee
Do you say this because 2/3rds of the NFL players are black?

Someone did a paper about that, though:
The National Felon League?: A comparison of NFL arrests to general population arrests

Results

Findings indicate that the general population has higher rates of arrests than the NFL population for property crimes and public order crimes, but NFL arrest rates for violent crimes are higher than for the general population in six of the fourteen yearly comparisons.

Conclusion

This study provides data on crime in the NFL. It offers some but not strong or consistent support to those that are concerned about violence among NFL players, but it does not support the claim that NFL players are more criminal than the general population.

Don't believe everything you read on the internet.



posted on Oct, 11 2017 @ 03:00 AM
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originally posted by: seedofchucky
a reply to: Xcalibur254

Let me explain something to you .

You don't protest while you are at work serving the customer.

Who are the customers?

Hard working americans who grind the 9-5 all day , only to come home to some peace quite and NFL. They dont want politics on their one getaway .... watching the game.

The NFL players them selfs don't even know what they really kneeling for , they only do it because its anti-trump.

Media fills the news with anti-trump so it must be the right thing to do !!

Get off your high horse, NFL players have one job play the game. IF they care about the issues so much, then do it after work , not during while the rest of us have to see your cries for attention on a subject most of them ignorant towards.

The race war in America is fueled by liberals and MSM on the LEFT. You are the ones making a federal case of something that didn't exist to the extend you pretend it to be .....

TRUMP is right. Liberals ... you + cnn are whats wrong with america today. WIthout you . life would be a million times better.


You mean like that broad in Kentucky who protested issuing marriage license to gays, even though it was her damned job?

Sorry this whole "can't protest at work" BS is about the lamest attack on the NFL protests I've seen. They are athletes and public entertainers, not wage slaves. So long as they play ball from the time the clock starts to the moment it stops, they have done their jobs. They are also people with opinions like everyone else, who are free to express them.

For all this outrage over players kneeling for the national anthem, I sure wonder where this "Righteous Wrath" was when NFL players went to prison for murder, burglary, beating their wives and girlfriends, raping women, drunk driving and killing people while drunk driving, tax evasion ect. For years, NFL players have committed a number of despicable acts, yet you didn't hear a peep from NFL fans, beyond complaints that player wouldn't be in the next game because they were in prison. All of this was totally cool for NFL fans, and they still idolized athletes that were convicted wife beaters, murderers, rapists, and thieves. So long as they can toss the ball around the field, who cares what they do off field.

Yet should a player do something as innocuous and mundane as express a personal and political belief by not standing for the anthem, the same fans lose their minds and call it "disrespectful.

So lemme get this straight. Murder, drunk driving manslaughter, rape and sexual assault, tax evasion, fraud, and burglary, aren't enough to offend fans, but a peaceful protest is? Got it.

Tells me everything I needed to know about people protesting the NFL protests.



posted on Oct, 11 2017 @ 03:42 AM
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Ermagawd the sky is falling and trump is gonna kill us all!!!!!!! He is a horrible person and Hillary would have been much better of a president.

He's still doing a way better job than old Barry ever did.

You people crack me up. Sky falling much?



posted on Oct, 11 2017 @ 05:57 AM
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Op is a hateful racist idiot... Anyone agreeing with this wild racist OP is also a brainwashed liberal waste

You are killing your own movement with all your hate...

The right wing conservative movement has to do little but let you consume yourselfs... Thanks.



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