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originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: enlightenedservant
Wars do indeed create massive setbacks but they also advance our technological base in ways that may not transpire while we are at peace. Which is not to say that if Humanity had remained neutral to one another for the last 7000(recorded history) odd years we would not be further along technology wise but that's simply wishful thinking really when one considers the apex predatory species that is Humanity.
originally posted by: GoShredAK
I have run into a few people who are utterly convinced that we are living in the end times described in the book of revelation.
I am not so certain this is true myself but when I consider all of the signs that have occurred It really seems like a possibility.
I know people have been saying the end is near in every generation but this time feels different.
I am just curious what the members of ATS think?
Do you believe the seven year tribulation has begun?
Or do you think this is all nonsense?
If you do believe we are living out the end times, what exactly is going to happen? How do you think it'll play out?
My opinion is it will be a sort of repeat of the times of Noah and the flood.
The nephilim and there offspring the rephaim are among us, hiding somewhere, soon to be unleashed and wreak havoc upon mankind.
Natural disasters will occur more frequently and become much more devastating.
While all this is happening the world will gradually fall into anarchy.
What does everybody else think?
14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.
Daniel 9:27 is where they get the 7 year tribulation.
originally posted by: DISRAELI
a reply to: GoShredAK
I am not sure where people are getting "seven year tribulation" from.
As far as I know, the "seven years" theme is based on the "weeks of years" passage in Daniel ch11, but the same passage has the trouble occupying only the second half of that final week, following the establishment of the "abomination" and the end of the tradtional offerings. So the usual calculation is three and a half years.
In my opinion, the "seven" is a symbolic number, not a literal number, so there is no point in trying to calculate when this period begins and ends.
But I am ready to equate the "abomination" with the events of Revelation ch13. In other words, when there is a leader with world-wide power demanding to be worshipped and imprisoning or executing those who refuse, then we can say that the tribulation has begun.
Until we actually see that happening, don't worry about it. Let events happen in their own time.
a reply to: Seede Nephilim are apparently the offspring of fallen angels(watchers) and Human females. If they exist and or did exist and as to whether or not they possess a soul, well i cant see why not if they are sentient in the same manner us apparently clever Monkeys are.
In other words, he rules for a period of time, but the first half of that period is quiet and trouble-free. Just as, in Revelation, the Beast rules for "one hour", but first half of his rule is the "half an hour of silence in heaven" (Revelation ch8v1). Then he sets up the "abomination", heaven starts getting noisy with angry thunders, and the tribulation occupies the second half of his rule.