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Are You Happy with the Political Climate?

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posted on Oct, 10 2017 @ 02:02 PM
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I know this will devolve into finger pointing but, hell, I'll give it the old college try.

Ask yourself if you are happy with the state of politics today. Does "satisfied" even come close? Are you happy with it or do you feel that things are just crap? If it's the latter, which I can glean from the media and the board here, then why is it so?

It doesn't take a Rhodes scholar to see the angst among the differing sides of the political equation. We see thread after thread pointing out the problems they perceive with "the other side". How so? By delving into that morass known as the MSM. Or as I like to call it, "The PR Arm of the Government." They tell you who to like(support) who to hate(with venom) and what is RIGHT. Whether it is or not.

Critical thought is not only not required, it's looked down upon. I've seen people that used to be "allies" turn on each other when TOLD to do so. Conversely it's OK to sidle up to an "enemy" when it's convenient. And it's OK...because you are told so. If not, whoa, you are thrown under the bus at warp speed. Remember no critical thought.

And what's come out of this? Animosity. Finger pointing. Leaps of logic a yoga expert wouldn't attempt. Hell, outright hatred at times...if that's what you are told to do.

So what's the point? If I'm correct that few are happy with the status quo, I could be wrong but I doubt it, then why are you not only putting up with this environment but working toward one that you can be satisfied with? DO some critical thinking. Use the gray matter you were born with. Don't be a puppet and above all...actually LISTEN TO ANOTHER POINT OF VIEW. Don't reject it because that's what you are supposed(trained) to do.

Seems stupid to me to wallow in sorrow when one can change things if they have a mind to. You may not change anyone else's environment, you might though but you'll be happier knowing that you have a basis of thought that goes beyond the programming to promote a divisive atmosphere. It's up to yourself to do this. No one else will. They will probably encourage the opposite. So...happy thoughts.
Or, do what you can to get to a happy place.




posted on Oct, 10 2017 @ 02:05 PM
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Hell no, of course not.

If you aren't 100% in on absolutely any idiotic liberal idea then you're labeled a racist sexist homophobe.



posted on Oct, 10 2017 @ 02:08 PM
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a reply to: intrepid

Absolutely happy, in fact, completely thrilled about it. I dont have any statistics and can only tell from anecdotal experience, but it seems political participation, whether it be through the ballot box or discussion, seems to be on the rise. This period, I think, will begin to wipe the dust off of the usual apathy when it comes to politics.



posted on Oct, 10 2017 @ 02:21 PM
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originally posted by: jjkenobi
Hell no, of course not.

If you aren't 100% in on absolutely any idiotic liberal idea then you're labeled a racist sexist homophobe.


And if you don't 100% submit yourself to the cult, you are labeled an idiotic liberal.

Go figure..
edit on 10-10-2017 by Jefferton because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 10 2017 @ 02:24 PM
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I'm tickled #less. My side won. We sent the liberals packing.
Now that we have accomplished that task, it would be cool to get my side to quit being the douche bags they are and try to focus on their job of representing the constituents who elected them and not just their insider trading efforts, but we will get there.



posted on Oct, 10 2017 @ 02:24 PM
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Ill tell you, its climate change i can support (the political climate, that is).

It would all get better if people would get off the internet and live real life for awhile. Nothing calms you down quicker than facing real life situations. A day or 2 later and the internet seems so inconsequential.



posted on Oct, 10 2017 @ 02:31 PM
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originally posted by: network dude
I'm tickled #less. My side won. We sent the liberals packing.

Yes, your side won. And now they celebrate by being angry every day, about every little thing the liberals do and say.

And our side wins a little bit, every time.

It's a funny world.



posted on Oct, 10 2017 @ 02:33 PM
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I'm unhappy with the current political climate because, unless something big changes, it's going to lead quickly to the complete and total annihilation of all life on Earth.



posted on Oct, 10 2017 @ 02:36 PM
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It's a love/hate relationship..


I do however recommend getting outdoors to hunt and fish or even just hiking to decompress.

I tend to focus on these guys in the Summer instead of politics in my personal life....
Hell it's ever relaxing just watching....give it a try!!



however like everyone I still visit ATS to poke the bees nest.



edit on 10-10-2017 by GuidedKill because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 10 2017 @ 02:40 PM
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The climate is almost as toxic as the politicians.

I stand pretty firmly between the left and the right on most issues, and the only people who seem to get their voice heard are the extreme left or the extreme right- both of which can sod off as far as I'm concerned.

Politics have entirely too much power over the average person- we could easily toss 9 out of 10 of every law on the books without much change.
99 out of 100 might actually give us a little bit of that freedom I keep hearing about.



posted on Oct, 10 2017 @ 02:47 PM
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NSFW Language but Chris Rock Nails it...





posted on Oct, 10 2017 @ 03:03 PM
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a reply to: lordcomac

This I agree with.

That and the art of real compromise has been lost. It doesn't actually exist anymore. I submit the current gun debate for proof.

People who own guns have most of what they want already, but they're being told to "compromise." So all I hear is about them giving up more of what they have and nothing about what they get that they want. In a compromise, both sides get a bit of what they want, so what do the gun owners want from the gun grabbers that the gun grabbers will give back? I haven't heard them make any concessions at all, but they call it reasonable compromise when they give up nothing, only take.

And that's how compromise now works.

And I'll be plain. I don't like how DC is working, but at least it's *not* working, and when it's not working, no one on either side is getting screwed by what it's doing because it's not doing anything.

Sure they're all pissed at Trump, but at least he represents a huge orange middle finger from the country to the established politicians on both sides who have been screwing us all, on both sides over now for the past two administrations. No matter what they do, WE suffer for it! And if you are smart you know it.
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posted on Oct, 10 2017 @ 03:06 PM
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a reply to: LesMisanthrope

Man, I couldn't disagree more concerning the participation thing. Don't mistake volume of noise for number of voices. With Congress of one party resulting in gridlock, I would guess that voter participation in 2018 will be at all time new lows.

Just my guess, but considering Budweiser is polling consumers to determine if it should pulll ad dollars from the NFL, I think its becoming increasingly obvious to people that if they want something changed in DC, they should petiton Goldman Sachs or Jeff Bezos at Amazon or send a letter to Lockheed Martin.
See: www.msnbc.com...


The study, by professors at Northwestern and Princeton, found that policies supported by economic elites and business interest groups were far more likely to become law than those they opposed.
It also found that the preferences of the middle class made essentially no difference to a bill’s fate.



In the United States, our findings indicate, the majority does not rule – at least not in the causal sense of actually determining policy outcomes. When a majority of citizens disagrees with economic elites and/or with organized interests, they generally lose. Moreover, because of the strong status quo bias built into the U.S. political system, even when fairly large majorities of Americans favor policy change, they generally do not get it,” the study said.



posted on Oct, 10 2017 @ 03:15 PM
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I hate the political climate in the US.

I mean what is the political climate? We're mired in a left vs right paradigm and it's not even true left vs right, because that would be Green Party or Socialists vs Libertarians. We're stuck in the Democrat vs Conservative Paradigm.

Things are changing but very incrementally. People want change, they voted for Obama who campaigned on change, they voted for Trump who promised change. But neither of them changed anything very much.

The Two Party system/Paradigm also controls our media so that third parties and things that could bring real change are never mentioned or talked about much on TV.

We have to turn off the news and news shows and we have to stop voting for Democrats and republicans.

Here's your sign. We all have actually worked with democrats and conservatives and served with them in the military and they're our neighbor and our kids play with their kids and we go to church with them and we serve on non profits with them etc. And guess what, there is never a big problem with conservatives and liberals working together in any of it, it's only on the news and on forums and facebook that there's a problem. Ask yourself why that is?

Could it be that this left vs right / democrat vs republican is just made up by the powers that be and served to us on a platter on TV and radio and we buy into it because Sean Hannity wouldn't lie to us, ann coulter wouldn't lie to us, Bill maher wouldn't lie to us, rachel madow wouldn't lie to us.

I'm sorry to be the bearer of bad news but, yes, they're lying to us.



posted on Oct, 10 2017 @ 03:17 PM
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originally posted by: jjkenobi
Hell no, of course not.

If you aren't 100% in on absolutely any idiotic liberal idea then you're labeled a racist sexist homophobe.



Ah, you've bought what the media is selling then?

We, the people, are being played masterfully by those who control what we see, what we hear, what we read...and how we are supposed to react. The sooner that both extremes realize this, the sooner we can unite as a nation. I personally hope we can get past our prejudices and focus on a future that's beneficial to ourselves, our children and our nation and our Earth.

We're all on a tiny blue dot...at this point, we're all we've got.



posted on Oct, 10 2017 @ 03:19 PM
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a reply to: amazing

Not to be punny but that was amazing.
Exactly what I'm talking about.



posted on Oct, 10 2017 @ 03:20 PM
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a reply to: intrepid




Ask yourself if you are happy with the state of politics today.

no
I would wager neither were the majority of presidential voters last nov.



posted on Oct, 10 2017 @ 03:24 PM
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Earlier today, while researching a response on another topic, I discovered this quote:


“[I]n this kind of argument, one is either right or wrong, for them or against them, a winner or a loser. Real answers are the casualties of such drive-by debate. This may be good entertainment, but it … only reinforces lines of division and does not build toward agreement.”

Sheldon Hackney, former President of Tulane University, and the University of Pennsylvania


This is the epitome of the "divide and conquer" techniques at play in our society. Culture, movies, entertainment, politics, even academia.

Not only must I be right, all others must be wrong.

We are being manipulated like cattle. Whether we are being driven to the pasture or the slaughterhouse remains to be seen.



posted on Oct, 10 2017 @ 03:37 PM
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a reply to: amazing

I would contend that we no longer live in "the real world" where we must cooperate and accomplish things.

We live in a "virtual world" constructed by the internet, by TV media, by entertainment and academia, in which there is only one right way.

We are stagnating.



posted on Oct, 10 2017 @ 03:43 PM
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a reply to: intrepid

I'm never happy with the political climate because one side always screws things up..




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