Vegas Shooting: Where's The Video Footage?

originally posted by: joemensor
Some are talking about ISIS like they are composed of some sort of incredibly clever super soldiers. They are a rag band 'group' of petty criminals for the most part.

Really, you guys need to let the ISIS conspiracy go. Why do you have such a hard time believing it was a psychopath with guns and daddy issues!?

According to conspiracy theorists, there is no such thing as a psycho mass murderer. Every mass murderer was an agent of the government (willing, coerced, or duped into action).

....but many that's exactly what the evil PTB want us to think. They want us to believe that there are no psycho killers in the world, and every mass murder event has a rational explanation.

The theory in the video of the OP has been out since the first night (at least Monday night) and the link between the 9/10 4chan post was published on Tuesday for sure. The whole "adding body scanners" and those involved was outed and linked to the 4 chan post on Tuesday after the shooting as well.

As far as the questions the OP has about him being an arms dealer, there is good reason for everything that he did, if that is what he was doing.

The mags could have been loaded to save space (could have been as much as 1/4 the space if the rounds had been in retail packaging). Much less space to take up in suitcases - OR for intent to use.

If he was working for the gov or working as an independent arms dealer, these guns could have been straw man purchases which is how many gun runners work. They buy guns under their name, then sell them later. It could have been that he purchased them as COVER purchases to support his claim of being a gun runner - but his "real" inventory may have come from other sources, possibly ATF/FBI or wherever.

Some civilian firearms are actually better built than military though they don't have full auto features (this can be modified in many ways though). The whole "civilian" firearms thing is a red herring.

His whole "gambler" background as well as "real estate" investor sure smells of a government cover. Both can be used by him as a way to justify his income, as a cover for travel, for a place to meet people, as an explanation (to the "bad people") what he does with his time when not selling guns, and more. It is also a way to launder any proceeds from selling guns.

Transactions at the casino/hotel could be done with vouchers/chips - the buyer gets the chips/vouchers in the casino, goes to the room, makes exchange, seller takes voucher/chips and cashes out. Proceeds could be recorded as "gambling gains".

We also need to know if a security guard was killed or not (many channels reported one was killed the first night of coverage - as well as the Aussie next door). Did the shooter shoot the guard in the hall before his assault on the crowd, which is now what is being reported? Why wasn't a SWAT team sent to the shooters door instead of 2 patrol officers and 2 off duty K9 officers (who mysteriously had explosive charges, and a detonator with him... not unusual at all)




I also find it VERY odd that the news media is pounding Weinstein so much immediately after this incident. It is taking away from the scrutiny of the shooting and ALL of hollyweird knew about this long before. I think it was timed to take some scrutiny off the job the media is doing with the shooter. There is more to this link than anyone has put together.

a reply to: ManBehindTheMask


I'm not going to naysay your friends, but -

I have over twenty friends that were in Vietnam and they all say they were there to stop the spread of communism - anything else is a lie.

I served 42 months in Iraq (over 2000 combat missions in my first deployment alone). My closest thirty friends and I all agree that we were there to save the populace from an evil dictator - anything else is a lie.

Nobody owns the market on the truth based on proximity to an event. Being a veteran does not grant super powers, nor does it grant bonuses to opinions. Shutting down conversations with these arguments will never get us to the truth.

Anyone that tells another person they can identify the number of shooters based on sound at 400+ yards in a "combat" situation is a ^$%#ing liar.

All BS aside - I am thankful your friends made it home safe. I mean that from the bottom of my heart. I cannot begin to imagine the horror they faced. Glad you made it home too, brother. I mean that whole heartedly.

a reply to: 200Plus

Anyone that tells another person they can identify the number of shooters based on sound at 400+ yards in a "combat" situation is a ^$%#ing liar.

Strange, because I too served in Iraq and Afghanistan on combat missions, and I remember MANY times when we started taking fire and had to identify not only HOW many there were, but WHERE the shots were coming from in order to RETURN FIRE....
You can claim whatever you want, but im calling bs

a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

You fired on "sounds" in Iraq in Afghanistan?

What kind of loose RoE did your unit have?

Asking in all honesty.


(I served in several units and we ALWAYS had to have a positive identification of a target prior to engagement)

originally posted by: 200Plus
a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

You fired on "sounds" in Iraq in Afghanistan?

What kind of loose RoE did your unit have?

Asking in all honesty.


(I served in several units and we ALWAYS had to have a positive identification of a target prior to engagement)

You seem to have some reading comprehension issues......that is not what I said at all....

Honestly 200plus, I'm more curious about him describing one of his friends being shot twice but, in the Facebook post they're mysteriously described as all accounted for and "safe." I wouldn't refer to one of my friends at being safe if he had multiple holes in his body.

Sounds like a clever fabrication, sorry boss. I'm very curious as to how someone not in combat amidst a huge crowd of panicking and loud people, as well as other distractions would even be able to find the occasion to positively say there was only one shooter. I would be more worried about getting out of the line of fire than counting shots or trying to figure out where, relatively it was coming from at that range. How interesting that in the middle of all this chaos someone who was not even a LEO focusing on locating the source of the shots, can positively state there was only one guy over 300m away shooting at him!

It's possible suppressed weapons could've been employed at secondary locations to minimize the profile of the shooting positions and would've been necessary in a 2+ gunman scenario if there was only one shooting in MB. I prefer this theory because at some points I could clearly hear cracks without the thud of the shot, and at other times both with the cracks not matching up with the shots at all. Unless MBTM is going to say he was sitting there counting every crack and boom with professional audio software and making sure it lined up consistently, I'm going to have to go with my gut instinct on this one. .

a reply to: Greenfire

We are a different breed in that respect.

To a civilian "safe" means walking out about the same as you walked in, or ten fingers ten toes as the saying goes.

To soldiers "safe" usually means coming out breathing and living to be around tomorrow.

The sound of firing/the impacts of rounds are used to focus your attention in a direction. That focus allows you to find the firer of the weapon and sometimes the number. Quite often you do not know how many are firing at you for a significant duration of the engagement (and sometimes not until its over). My main point was that NOBODY that is fired on out of the blue with rapid fire at 400+ meters can possibly say "there was only one shooter".

The chaos of the moment wouldn't allow it, the lack of positive ID of the shooter wouldn't allow it.

a reply to: Greenfire

That particular group of people were safe yes, I said no less than 15 , another friend was there w his wife and best friend, he was shot twice, once in the knee and once flesh wound to the back of the head....had he not been shot in the knee the second shot would have killed him...


It doesn't matter to me honestly if you believe me or not, this isn't about me it's about them...

I don't feel the need to fabricate anything, and quite honestly would be better off if I didn't have friends that went through that horror on home soil .....I'd rather not have to think about what they are having to go throughout their on a personal level

originally posted by: HorizonFall
Screw it. I'm going to throw my theory out there:

Paddock was duped into making an arms deal in a hotel to ISIS members. He was murdered, the ISIS members conducted the attack and Paddock took the blame. The fact that ISIS took credit for it is a major indicator to me.

Though again, this is just my theory.

Not just your theory. The theory of every basement dweller who read that stupid post on 4chan and wants to sound special and enlightened.