Knowingly exposing others to HIV will no longer be a felony in California

a reply to: Mandroid7

While I think not disclosing something like that is downright evil, it takes two to make sex safer.

I've literally driven men down to Planned Parenthood before sleeping with them. There's also condoms and common sense.

Legal or not, I'm sure you could win a lawsuit if somebody intentionally put you at risk.

a reply to: TheRedneck

HIV is a virus.
There are very many people living who carry the virus.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Metallicus

Right, and millions with other communicable diseases. Why should HIV be different?

It’s not.

So they should upgrade the other diseases, not downgrade HIV!

a reply to: Hazardous1408

That's the other option.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Metallicus

Right, and millions with other communicable diseases. Why should HIV be different?

I want to know if you would keep that point of view if someone with HIV have sex with you without letting you know first.

a reply to: Phage

Phage, really? That comment was beneath you! The OP never implied anything of the kind. Why would you even go there?

In the early 80’s I had several blood transfusions. I got tested for HIV afterwards and it was the longest, most frightening two weeks of my life. Now I think you can get the results almost immediately. But still, it’s not like you can take antibiotics for it! If someone willfully exposes you to it - by unprotected sex (like Charlie Sheen did) or by giving blood - it’s a life altering act. Not necessarily a death sentence any more, but still has to be managed and lived with. It’s (and forgive the over-used word, but it’s close) like a form of terrorism. Making it a misdemeanor is awful, imo. There are serious consequences and should be treated seriously.

a reply to: Trueman

I would be pissed, indeed.

I would be pissed if someone knowingly spread any disease.

a reply to: Lolliek

How about herpes. No cure. Right?

a reply to: Phage

What I 'know' is that there is a virus called the Human Immunodeficiency Virus, aka HIV. It has no cure and destroys the human immunological system to the point that a common cold can be fatal. If a secondary disease doesn't kill, HIV itself leads to death over time. It originally is thought to have mutated from a monkey virus somehow?

It is a very hardy virus as long as it is contained in an organic solvent, such as salt water or bodily fluids. It can be spread through intimate contact (exchange of bodily fluids), blood transfusions, or sharing of needles. There is no real evidence of exchange via casual contact or even via sharing of seawater environments. It primarily spread in the USA via homosexual and drug culture activity, but worldwide that is not the case.

What part of that is incorrect?

TheRedneck

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Trueman

I would be pissed, indeed.

You'll be more than pissed, you'll be deadly pissed.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Lolliek

How about herpes. No cure. Right?

Herpes won't kill you.

a reply to: TheRedneck

What part of that is incorrect?

This part:

HIV itself leads to death over time.

originally posted by: Trueman

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Lolliek

How about herpes. No cure. Right?

Herpes won't kill you.

Nor will HIV.

Knowingly?

Seriously?

Why stop there, make it legal to knowingly expose a person to poison, toxins, radiation etc. in potentially lethal doses.

Seems just as sensible.

a reply to: ausername

Maybe you should read the bill. It is not legal.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: TheRedneck

What part of that is incorrect?

This part:

HIV itself leads to death over time.

Ridiculous. You know perfectly well what he means.

HIV leads to AIDS which kills you, it's a fairly lengthy and painful process, so i've heard.

This is why many places have laws that require you to inform any potential partner that you have the disease.

People should be prosecuted for intentionally infecting other people with it.

a reply to: Ohanka

HIV leads to AIDS which kills you, it's a fairly lengthy and painful process, so i've heard.

It can, yes. But Redneck made the distinction between AIDS and HIV.

Tell me, do you think that everyone who is exposed to HIV becomes infected?

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: ausername

Maybe you should read the bill. It is not legal.

My apologies, pardon my ignorance I should have used the word misdemeanor, not legal.

You have to be a special kind of stupid not to acknowledge there is a difference in the HIV virus and the Herpes virus.

Not disclosing one's HIV infection should be a felony, but...hey!...California, the Land of fruits and nuts.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Mandroid7

It would seem that the bill will treat the HIV the same as any other disease.

Existing law provides that a person who is afflicted with a contagious, infectious, or communicable disease who willfully exposes himself or herself to another person, or any person who willfully exposes another person afflicted with the disease to someone else, is guilty of a misdemeanor.

leginfo.legislature.ca.gov...

Is HIV special because it's gay?

CAUTION don't have sex or get a blood transfusion in Cali.

Perhaps you should read the bill.

It is special because it is a death sentence that never ever goes away.

The Left have gone deep end insane over in Kalifornistan.