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Is Trump About to Trigger a Cabinet ‘Suicide Pact’?

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posted on Oct, 9 2017 @ 09:37 AM
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a reply to: Pyle

3 times now you have avoided giving me the proof where you claim people have actually confirmed to the MSM that Tillerson called Trump a moron. You cannot answer the question because those people do not exist.




posted on Oct, 9 2017 @ 11:54 AM
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a reply to: DJW001

I love these conspiracies. "Trump is a bumbling idiot but somehow amassed an empire, conquered television, and won the presidency. Just dumb luck, obviously he's mentally unstable and idiotic beyond comprehension." Yep, makes perfect sense.



posted on Oct, 9 2017 @ 12:06 PM
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originally posted by: Dfairlite
a reply to: DJW001

I love these conspiracies. "Trump is a bumbling idiot but somehow amassed an empire, conquered television, and won the presidency. Just dumb luck, obviously he's mentally unstable and idiotic beyond comprehension." Yep, makes perfect sense.


Yeah so did Hitler—he got pretty far too

It happens—just hope we survive



posted on Oct, 9 2017 @ 03:18 PM
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a reply to: DJW001
Tillerson is staying because he was the one working the Kurdistan oil partitioning during his stay at Exxon Mobile.
This whole "Trump going to fire him for his rude remarks" is literally just the supermarket tabloid papers at the checkout counter. In fact it gives a better smokescreen for why Kurdish independence is about to lead to some more confrontation along the Euphrates.

How Exxon, under Rex Tillerson, won Iraqi oil fields

When Ashti Hawrami, the oil minister from Iraq’s largely autonomous Kurdistan region, unfurled a map of untapped oil fields for a team of ExxonMobil officials in the spring of 2011, they saw possibility and profit.
The minister pointed to the blocks that had already been taken by other foreign firms as Kurdistan, long at odds with Iraq’s central government over oil and territory, raced to establish itself as a player on world oil markets. He also showed them the fields that were still up for grabs. Tell me what you want, and we can start negotiating, Hawrami said, according to one former Exxon official who attended the meeting.

It was the start of months of hurried talks blessed by ExxonMobil’s chief executive, Rex Tillerson, and other senior executives back in Dallas. The company was making a high-stakes gamble that new agreements would pay off handsomely if the northern region held billions of barrels of accessible oil. A law governing nationwide oil investments was tied up in parliament, and Iraqi officials were rejecting Kurdistan’s authority to export oil or cut its own deals.

Exxon’s 2011 exploration deal with the Kurdistan region provides a window into how Tillerson, has approached doing business in one of the world’s most risky, complicated places, where giant energy deals can have far-reaching political effects.
When Iraq’s central government threatened to throw Exxon out of much larger, established operations in the south, Tillerson personally intervened, using his executive clout to smooth things over with authorities in Baghdad while making clear his company would weather the political fallout ...

Ali Khedery, who advised US officials in Iraq before joining Exxon in 2011, argued that Kurdistan was one way to offset the disappointment in southern Iraq.


As you all can see, Tillerson is Dick Cheney, he is the double speaking deep state establishment rep. for this admin. How and why else do you think Congress approved large arms sales to the Kurds much to fellow NATO partner Turkey's protest, or why they sing Trump's praise over there. Why the YPG heads on the ground are now reading from teleprompters, and why there has been a suppression of the fact that the locals in areas purged of daesh are not being allowed back into their villages and homes? Why Israel is 100% behind Kurdish independeance, as well as congress. Mr. Tillerson's actions contradict his words on Kurdistan. That is simply called double speak. He did the same thing earlier this year when he said Assad is no longer a goal for removal, and then days later coalition forces attacked Syrian forces.

Tillerson is exactly where he is supposed to be, and no amount of silly Jerry Springer, impulse tabloid checkout magazine gossip about what he said is going to change that reality. Trump

I mean seriously, we used to actually discuss which this silly daytime talk show stuff was a cover-up for which real-time geo-political actions and foreign policy initiatives. Now everybody just pretends they are on daytime trash tv audience and turns their brain off. Mighty strange, I wonder what everyone has been exposed to that has shut off their brains??? Maybe the fact I have an implant in my face keeps my brain from turning off??? Who knows.



posted on Oct, 9 2017 @ 03:26 PM
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originally posted by: Metallicus
a reply to: Willtell

I had to put up with 8 years of Obama and you can't deal with even the 1st year of Trump? You should probably get some therapy because you are clearly losing your sanity. Trump at least cares about America.



no he doesn't, trump cares about trump....



posted on Oct, 9 2017 @ 04:03 PM
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a reply to: Outlier13

And multiple times now I have shown that Tillerson never denied saying it. So really you are reaching for something that I dont need to prove to you.



posted on Oct, 9 2017 @ 05:40 PM
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a reply to: worldstarcountry

I agree that Tillerson's conflicts of interest should have disqualified him for the position. Nevertheless, he seems to be putting his personal bucket list on the back burner, to mix metaphors. Kurdistan is an inevitability, like nuclear Korea. The issue is how to achieve a situation that is not too destabilizing.



posted on Oct, 9 2017 @ 07:40 PM
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a reply to: Willtell

If you're going to insult someone's intelligence directly or indirectly, perhaps you should check spelling first.



"You have the president being called an f___ing Moran by the Sec of State."



It's spelled 'Moron'. You're welcome!...from your friendly neighborhood, (not so much a Trump supporter, as I am A Hillary hater) citizen.


Don't click here
edit on 9-10-2017 by IlluminatiTechnician because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 10 2017 @ 12:12 AM
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a reply to: Pyle

You are not answering the question I have posed multiple times to you and now you are attempting to back track your way out of being caught in a lie. You know that I am referring to your post where you state "They have multiple people that have confirmed he said Trump was a moron"

I've asked you to qualify your statement (4 times now) and show me who the "multiple people" are. You cannot because they don't exist. You are guilty of the same thing the MSM is. Here on ATS you are attempting to perpetuate a lie with another lie.


edit on 10-10-2017 by Outlier13 because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 10 2017 @ 01:40 AM
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originally posted by: IAMTAT
a reply to: Willtell




You have the president being called an f___ing Moran by the Sec of State.


Jesus...of all the words to spell wrong...'Moron'?

Color me surprised.


Someone who can't spell moron... Must be a RUSSIAN SPY!!!!!



posted on Oct, 10 2017 @ 05:03 AM
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a reply to: IlluminatiTechnician

Apparently you have never had to deal with automobile. I mean AUTOCORRECT.
edit on 10-10-2017 by DJW001 because: Edit too correct autocorrect. --DJW001



posted on Oct, 10 2017 @ 06:13 AM
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originally posted by: Metallicus
a reply to: Willtell
Trump at least cares about America.



Trump is a sociopath who cares only for his bank balance.



posted on Oct, 10 2017 @ 06:18 AM
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I've heard the rumours via the media, but no way to know if it's true.

What surprises me is the reaction to the news, including the OP.

The biggest issue to be concerned about is cabinet members arranging a "suicide pact" in the first place. They have a job to do and worrying about how to do their bosses job for him (or threatening him) seems a little detached from what they are supposed to be doing for the country.
edit on 10/10/2017 by UKTruth because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 10 2017 @ 06:28 AM
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a reply to: Outlier13

That is a fantastic leap of logic. "If you cannot tell me the names of people who wish to remain anonymous, they do not exist."



posted on Oct, 10 2017 @ 06:30 AM
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originally posted by: UKTruth
I've heard the rumours via the media, but no way to know if it's true.

What surprises me is the reaction to the news, including the OP.

The biggest issue to be concerned about is cabinet members arranging a "suicide pact" in the first place. They have a job to do and worrying about how to do their bosses job for him (or threatening him) seems a little detached from what they are supposed to be doing for the country.


They are supposed to be upholding the Constitution and doing what is right for the nation and its people. In case you have not noticed, Donald Trump is making that very difficult.



posted on Oct, 10 2017 @ 11:05 AM
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a reply to: DJW001

If the absence of confirmation of some unnamed people existing is unavailable...then they do not exist. You are intentionally mislabeling my statement to fit your blind belief and false narrative only because you want it to be true.

At least point me to a news article by the MSM where is states "multiple people confirmed Tillerson called Trump a moron".

I could care less what one person says about another person. Especially when it comes to politicians. However, I do care or at least like to expose people like you and the other poster for intentionally perpetrating lies with additional lies. You can try to argue your way out of this with as much vague and ambiguous wording as you like but until you produce confirmation of these "multiple people" then they don't exist.



posted on Oct, 10 2017 @ 02:11 PM
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a reply to: Willtell

thank you for linking a stephen colbert video to remind me just how serious this situation really is

i'm literally shaking right now



posted on Oct, 10 2017 @ 05:12 PM
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a reply to: Outlier13

Will this do?

www.usnews.com...



posted on Oct, 10 2017 @ 07:13 PM
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originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: Outlier13

Will this do?

www.usnews.com...


Are you willfully ignorant or just not paying attention to what this discussion is about? You are quoting the originator (NBC News) of the fake news narrative that Tillerson threatened to quit and the false statement he called Trump a moron. Pay attention next time you want to drive by and hop into someone else's conversation. The Tillerson press conference was specifically to denounce the NBC News fake news story that he ever threatened to resign. The added BS about him calling Trump a moron was pure NBC News make believe. Pay attention son.



posted on Oct, 10 2017 @ 07:55 PM
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a reply to: Outlier13

I knew you wouldn't accept it. Let's discuss this after the meltdown.




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