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New evidence may suggest Las Vegas shooter Stephen Paddock was not alone in hotel room

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posted on Oct, 7 2017 @ 01:07 PM
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a reply to: Chickensaladthey could have booked another room on that floor nd went there as cops were coming up first thing swat would have done was evacuate rooms on that floor so perps could have just walked out with others






posted on Oct, 7 2017 @ 01:16 PM
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a reply to: DisinfoEqualsTerrorismbecause him being alone gunman is better for their agenda which is gun control/ban if it turned out to be terrorist from isis then more people would want guns for proection. to me this was either isis or a group trying to kill second amendment this paddock guy was picked as patsy because he was known to be a gun collector and he is a bit of an ass. i think marylou if thats her name was a honey trap he got caught up in.




posted on Oct, 7 2017 @ 02:09 PM
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a reply to: intrptr


He may have left to go get the guns, the maid doing her thing.

Or...

The guns were in the room but kept in locked luggage, the maids are trained to ignore luggage.


You're operating under the assumption that entry to his room while he was off premises were done by hotel employees.

Though the wording in OP article seemed to suggest entry was done by his second key card.

I'd imagine a high profile casino hotel would have different codes for employee key cards (most likely masters) and guest issues key cards. That would allow them to scrutinize disputes if something were to happen in a guest room while they were gone.

That being said, they've been flipping their statements on the fact whether entry to the room happened by anyone else. Which is odd, seeing as this revelation was released five days after the event.

Any casino I've been to has cameras on every floor. Some pointing down all hallways, and some based at elevators and stairs.

At any case, deduction should have narrowed down the individuals in question. The fact they weren't solid on this five days after is intriguing.

I'm not implying anything, just pointing out things that stuck out for me as odd.



posted on Oct, 7 2017 @ 02:52 PM
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originally posted by: ZenTam
I work in a hotel and it is possible the phone charge was left behind by a previous guest. Housekeeping is notorious for missing things. Phone charges are the #1 thing left behind.



My theory is that the guns were also left there by the previous guest.

When Steve entered the room, he found the guns, and thought to himself, "Oh, how neat, presents."




posted on Oct, 7 2017 @ 04:05 PM
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Agreed...he did not have an accomplice, he was the accomplice.



posted on Oct, 7 2017 @ 04:19 PM
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Maybe he didn't leave, and somebody else drove the car off site.



posted on Oct, 7 2017 @ 10:29 PM
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originally posted by: SouthernForkway26
Maybe he didn't leave, and somebody else drove the car off site.


There has to be footage of his coming and going from the hotel. If they can tell when his key cards were used then I'm sure they've cross referenced security footage from around those times.

Again, where's our classic, cliche, grainy stills from security footage like we always see of even the most common gas station robber?

The silence from the authorities on the point of security footage is deafening.



posted on Oct, 7 2017 @ 11:13 PM
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I'm curious what the numbers on the note are.

As some of you may know he had worked as accountant, IRS agent, aerospace and possibly has a mathematician website.


Keycard codes recycle. So if you have a card from last week it will most likely work on some room the next day and so on. The history on the locks should show what key and when was used to open. As managers and housekeeping have masterkeys.

Also if you have a programmer or lock charger you can open the door

a reply to: CriticalStinker


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posted on Oct, 8 2017 @ 08:49 AM
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a reply to: CriticalStinker


You're operating under the assumption that entry to his room while he was off premises were done by hotel employees.

Thats a given. Its called maid service. His car was 'off premises', maybe he pulled around back to unload more guns and carry them up the stairwell?

Whatever you propose is the assumption.


Though the wording in OP article seemed to suggest entry was done by his second key card.

Assume, suggest, conclude isn't very forensic.

How we know the computer logged it as second key card? You got the computer readout?

Or that anyone else was in possession of it? All the presumptions of a second 'mystery' subject are just that, guesses and assumptions.

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posted on Oct, 8 2017 @ 08:53 AM
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originally posted by: Johnathanandheather
I'm curious what the numbers on the note are.

As some of you may know he had worked as accountant, IRS agent, aerospace and possibly has a mathematician website.


Keycard codes recycle. So if you have a card from last week it will most likely work on some room the next day and so on. The history on the locks should show what key and when was used to open. As managers and housekeeping have masterkeys.

Also if you have a programmer or lock charger you can open the door

a reply to: CriticalStinker



Except im fairly sure they already released what was on the note..

Values needed for the shooting



posted on Oct, 8 2017 @ 09:04 AM
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a reply to: jimmybobby


Anonymous ID:LAbNFEtv Mon 11 Sep 2017 00:08:36 No.141100963 View
look i feel bad for some of you on this website. so i'll let you in on a little secret. if you live in las vegas or henderson stay inside tomorrow. don't go anywhere where there are large groups of people. also if you see three blacks vans parked next to each other immediately leave the area. you're welcome
-john


Timing is a little off there JimBob.

Sept 11 is three weeks prior. Sept 11, hmmm...

Nice cryptic stuff going on about X-ray machines in hotels. They are already installing those in hotels , subways, sports venues, airports, etc.

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posted on Oct, 8 2017 @ 09:37 AM
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originally posted by: NS999
Not to mention the room service receipt showing 2 guests, 2 sodas, a burger, and a bowl of soup. Sounds like a meal for a two, no? They are usually pretty good about asking for the number of guests in order to send up the right amount of silverware, condiments, and whatnot.



sounds like a meal for one to me.
a burger and soup equals a meal for two?
cause he got 2 drinks?



posted on Oct, 8 2017 @ 09:40 AM
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a reply to: intrptr

The problem I see with postings on 4 chan, is that people are saying things all the time and most of it comes to nothing. Given all those, your bound to have something come close to something that happens.



posted on Oct, 8 2017 @ 09:50 AM
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originally posted by: talisman
a reply to: intrptr

The problem I see with postings on 4 chan, is that people are saying things all the time and most of it comes to nothing. Given all those, your bound to have something come close to something that happens.

Agreed. With nothing better to do all day, I could post similar vague 'warnings' on a hundred different websites, sit back and wait.

Warning did specifically say Vegas, but it also said "tomorrow" (Sept 12). Note to anon: Next time, don't be so specific.



posted on Oct, 8 2017 @ 11:19 AM
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originally posted by: Johnathanandheather
I'm curious what the numbers on the note are.

As some of you may know he had worked as accountant, IRS agent, aerospace and possibly has a mathematician website.


a reply to: CriticalStinker



On CNN, they just now said that law enforcement identified the paper with numbers on it as mathematical equations figuring out distances to the crowd.

I feel like this guy is a strawman patsy. Noone else is coming forward to say they knew him, worked with him, nothing. As an accountant, you would have clients (unles you're a number cruncher in a cubicle farm and never meet the people that these numbers reflect) and no clients have come forward. It seems as though he is a generated identity. The alphabet agency that we fear the most could easily create this story and any supporting paperwork.

More laws and less freedoms are already in the works for this and its not going to slow down. My friends, we're on the wrong side of that snowball now.



posted on Oct, 8 2017 @ 12:28 PM
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I've also read several so-called news stories that claim, "In Paddock's room, officials found a piece of paper containing a number of phone numbers but they reiterated no suicide note was found."

These aerticles also conjecture these may have been the phone numbers of escorts...

Again, who knows what's real inside Chapel Perilous...



posted on Oct, 8 2017 @ 12:45 PM
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I think the girlfriend was involved more then what she is saying and made up a story to fit the crime. I dont see her as she is portrayed. She got him involved in something I think. Thats just my theory.



posted on Oct, 8 2017 @ 12:57 PM
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originally posted by: TinySickTears

originally posted by: NS999
Not to mention the room service receipt showing 2 guests, 2 sodas, a burger, and a bowl of soup. Sounds like a meal for a two, no? They are usually pretty good about asking for the number of guests in order to send up the right amount of silverware, condiments, and whatnot.



sounds like a meal for one to me.
a burger and soup equals a meal for two?
cause he got 2 drinks?


What you are missing is the receipt actually says "Guests: 2". Now that could just be default because the size of the room is meant for 2 guests. OR He actually ordered for 2 guests. What was ordered is irrelevant, it's the actual receipt stating 2 that sparks the question.



posted on Oct, 8 2017 @ 01:10 PM
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a reply to: jidnum

i dont diasagree with that.

the person i responded to said

--sounds like a meal for 2 no?--

and it does not

thats all



posted on Oct, 9 2017 @ 12:33 AM
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Not sure if this has been posted, but in this LVMPD body cam video a couple of times you can hear two different sources of gunfire and the police officer even says "THEY" are shooting directly at us. Another mentions the shooter is "NORTH" of the Mandalay Bay.

1:13-1:22



Victim blows whistle, Rocky Palermo, see link to video interview from the Blast

3-5 shooters, 100% not just one shooter

theblast.com...

Here he is in the hospital interviewing with CNN
www.cnn.com... -massacre/
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