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New evidence may suggest Las Vegas shooter Stephen Paddock was not alone in hotel room

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posted on Oct, 6 2017 @ 04:12 PM
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a reply to: tiredoflooking

Or just leave town for a while, escort service is a VERY shady business in Vegas. If you ever order one, the thing you don't know is there is a very large and armed man just outside your room for the duration.




posted on Oct, 6 2017 @ 04:18 PM
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a reply to: Vector99

Well an escorted is just a good guess right now.

I wouldn't be surprised if they are just giving trickles of information to keep from being accused of hiding all this from the public.

Casinos have cameras everywhere, and they also have very high end facial recognition in many.

They may have already talked to this person. My guess is they are much further in the investigation than we are lead to believe.



posted on Oct, 6 2017 @ 04:32 PM
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originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: Vector99
Casinos have cameras everywhere, and they also have very high end facial recognition in many.

Yes they have cameras everywhere, but typically there are 2-3 people watching 200+ monitors simultaneously. The only cameras that are actively watched tend to be the table games when a call is made of a suspected cheater. For the most part it is recorded and not watched, but rather there for review when needed.

I've been inside a couple of those security rooms, it's usually 2 people sitting there BS'ing for 8 hours til the next 2 come in, and when a camera watch is called a specialist will come in and watch the cameras mentioned.



posted on Oct, 6 2017 @ 04:33 PM
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originally posted by: notsure1
a reply to: Lucidparadox




he fact that the adjoining room with the window broken out, WAS LOCKED FROM THE OTHER SIDE


I have not heard that at all. Is that fact??


Yes, it was released the police had to breach the conjoining room door because it was locked.



posted on Oct, 6 2017 @ 04:35 PM
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originally posted by: Lucidparadox

originally posted by: notsure1
a reply to: Lucidparadox




he fact that the adjoining room with the window broken out, WAS LOCKED FROM THE OTHER SIDE


I have not heard that at all. Is that fact??


Yes, it was released the police had to breach the conjoining room door because it was locked.


Well then how the F#####??/? This is all so odd...



posted on Oct, 6 2017 @ 04:47 PM
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I read an article that said since he was a big money gambler he got comps in the past that included call girls...could be the case here with the mystery woman he was hanging with



posted on Oct, 6 2017 @ 04:53 PM
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I had a theory that there were other people in the room who shot stephen paddock before they then went on a shooting spree, then they left the hotel with other guests but I did read that the forces were being shot at when they were outside his room so can't be so.

Now we also have this news on another thread right now:



Three men, Abdulrahman El Bahnasawy, a 19-year-old Canadian citizen; Talha Haroon, a 19-year-old U.S. citizen based in Pakistan; and Russell Salic, a 37-year-old Philippines citizen were all arrested on terror-related charges in the alleged plot that would have targeted New York City during the Islamic holy month of Ramadan in 2016, according to Acting U.S. Attorney Joon H. Kim. Source: 3 Charged in Alleged ISIS-Inspired Plot to Target New York Concerts, Landmarks, Subways

edit on CDTFri, 06 Oct 2017 16:55:15 -05000000003104x115x1 by TruthxIsxInxThexMist because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 6 2017 @ 05:08 PM
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Maybe if the cops pursued the Hispanic couple or the security guard who escorted them out of the venue maybe we would know more. I mean why in the world are they not talking about these people who ran around saying "they are all around, we are all going to f****** die tonight"? Or find out who the anon guy is who said on Sept. 11th, "Vegas in on their minds". I would be wanting to look at all angles and ask anyone and everyone questions who may have had some knowledge to this event prior.

Why would a rich man who has everything purchase a ton of weapons and shoot one? I could go down a list of questions I have but I believe we are all asking the same ones and we all want to make sense of such a senseless tragedy.



posted on Oct, 6 2017 @ 05:41 PM
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Make sure you all have an alibi .

I for see a new patsy being set up in the near future .



posted on Oct, 6 2017 @ 05:48 PM
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a reply to: Lucidparadox

I've thought about this angle too. The problem that I have with it is, from what I understand, after they realized that the shots were coming from Mandalay Bay, all elevators and stairwells were locked down. Only certain cards allowed access i.e. police, security. ..

Unless the stairwell door was propped open or they had a certain card, I don't see how someone could have gotten away.
ETA- Maybe they had another room booked to run to?
edit on 6-10-2017 by Chickensalad because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 6 2017 @ 06:01 PM
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a reply to: research100

I wouldn't think they give out those kind of comps to a video poker player. Maybe I'm wrong.



posted on Oct, 6 2017 @ 07:27 PM
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originally posted by: Chickensalad
a reply to: Lucidparadox

I've thought about this angle too. The problem that I have with it is, from what I understand, after they realized that the shots were coming from Mandalay Bay, all elevators and stairwells were locked down. Only certain cards allowed access i.e. police, security. ..

Unless the stairwell door was propped open or they had a certain card, I don't see how someone could have gotten away.
ETA- Maybe they had another room booked to run to?


I dont think that is 100% the case, think about it..

A mass shooting is going on in a building.

so you're going to shut down the elevators and close all the stairwells so people potentially in harms way cant get out?

You would be trapping people who may have been on the same floor with the shooter, with the shooter.

I doubt they shut down all those doors, plus you cant shut down a fire escape stairwell. What if there was an explosion and a fire?

You would be killing hundreds of civilians and trapping them.


No way did they lock down the stairwells.



posted on Oct, 6 2017 @ 07:36 PM
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originally posted by: audubon
The charger could have been lost by a previous occupant in that suite. Hence the cleaning staff didn't find it, but a minute fingertip examination of the room after the shooting did.

The other item, about the car being accessed, doesn't lend itself to such innocent explanations.


The housekedping is usually quite thorough at cleaning up though
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As for mystery woman, I'd posted at the onset (day 1) when we were listening to the police scanners that I thought they had a female in Custody who was not Marilou, but she'd been cleared and released. It was maybe in some news article on day 1 as well. I then became confused on his woman being in the Philippines. A guy with his money and it being Vegas might have had a hooker in there .



posted on Oct, 6 2017 @ 07:43 PM
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originally posted by: carewemust
It's interesting that we have not heard any more about the video footage obtained by the security cameras throughout the hotel.

What has Law Enforcement said about this aspect of their investigation?


Any other time, except 911 at the Pentagon, we see footage of the perps they have on the local news.



posted on Oct, 6 2017 @ 07:49 PM
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originally posted by: Chickensalad
a reply to: Lucidparadox

I've thought about this angle too. The problem that I have with it is, from what I understand, after they realized that the shots were coming from Mandalay Bay, all elevators and stairwells were locked down. Only certain cards allowed access i.e. police, security. ..

Unless the stairwell door was propped open or they had a certain card, I don't see how someone could have gotten away.
ETA- Maybe they had another room booked to run to?


If more than the shooter was involved, then your idea makes sense. Easy to have another room and then leave the weapons behind... plausible. All provable or refutable with a bit of a look at those hallway camera's. Making it insane we don't have more, so i am voting they are holding it close to catch them if it is more than one. Either that or they are truly trying to cover the operation up.


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posted on Oct, 6 2017 @ 08:10 PM
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I haven't heard anyone talk about this theory so much...

What if this was a set-up..? Perhaps someone went into his room while he was gone, sabotaged the room, booby trapped it, or someone hid in there until he got back, did him in and let the whole thing fall on his dead body...? I only draw this conclusion because of the absence of any motivation what-so-ever. Contrary, I would say this guy was living a pretty happy and comfortable life...

This wouldn't be the first time I've heard of people getting killed and robbed in their rooms at Las Vegas or Atlantic City.

As to who, we have to ask ourselves who benefits from this situation. The shooter is dead, he left no note or manifesto, so there's no benefit for him. He could've easily just have shot himself in the head if he had any intention of ending his life. I think there is 1 culprit that comes to my mind. Starts with Central, ends with Agency.



posted on Oct, 6 2017 @ 08:39 PM
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If I could edit the OP I would. But it appears they've changed their story.


Investigators are "confident" that no one else entered the Las Vegas hotel suite before a gunman opened fire on a crowd of thousands of concertgoers, killing 58 people in the deadliest mass shooting in modern U.S. history.

Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department Undersheriff Kevin McMahill said Friday in an interview that police don't believe anyone entered the room at Mandalay Bay prior to the shooting carried out by Stephen Paddock Sunday night.

Earlier, senior law enforcement sources said investigators were puzzled by a charger that did not appear to match any of Paddock’s cellphones. Police have now been able to match all of the cell phone chargers found in the room with multiple cell phones that Paddock had with him.


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No where in the article did they mention anything about the second key card getting access to the room. Some may say that it could have been room service or another employee. But I'd have to think those cards would have a different signature than that of the guest.

Interesting.



posted on Oct, 6 2017 @ 08:40 PM
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The "suicide" pic implies the shooting method, thru the roof of the mouth, is clearly self-induced. Make that into what you want.

The whole thing is a rats nest in the middle of a high roller casino with security....? Nothing to see here.



posted on Oct, 6 2017 @ 08:41 PM
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posted on Oct, 6 2017 @ 10:22 PM
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Would cleaning crew trigger card scan?

Also wonder if he could have just locked the door and pulled it shut behind him at some point.



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