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Trump Rolls Back Obama’s Birth Control Coverage Rule

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posted on Oct, 6 2017 @ 12:52 PM
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originally posted by: windword

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: windword
a reply to: whywhynot


Again, this isn't about money. It's about religious exemption.



Again, this is really about religious freedom.


Religious freedom is a personal choice, not a choice an employer makes for their employees. Don't believe in birth control. Don't use it.



Don't like the health plan - get another job.




posted on Oct, 6 2017 @ 12:53 PM
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originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: windword

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: windword
a reply to: whywhynot


Again, this isn't about money. It's about religious exemption.



Again, this is really about religious freedom.


Religious freedom is a personal choice, not a choice an employer makes for their employees. Don't believe in birth control. Don't use it.



Don't like the health plan - get another job.


There is probably a discussion to be had that the provision seemed to greatly reduce abortion.

Isn't that a conversation or point to think about?



posted on Oct, 6 2017 @ 12:57 PM
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originally posted by: smurfy

originally posted by: windword
Trump Rolls Back Obama’s Birth Control Coverage Rule.

So, the Trump administration decided to go religious on fertile woman's a$$es!


Er, I think you are barking up the wrong tree there!



As for, "Now any woman’s boss can object to covering contraception on moral grounds"

If it's moral grounds, that's not necessarily a religious thing...however who's to say?


I agree, but it's not me, it's the Trump Administration that's blurred the line between moral objection and religious objections. According to the rules, employers don't even have to register as "religious objectors", they just have to inform their employees, and even that's not regulated. Feasible, an employer could bring in one woman they think is "loose" and tell her, "Hey, we're cutting you off".



posted on Oct, 6 2017 @ 12:58 PM
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originally posted by: luthier

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: windword

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: windword
a reply to: whywhynot


Again, this isn't about money. It's about religious exemption.



Again, this is really about religious freedom.


Religious freedom is a personal choice, not a choice an employer makes for their employees. Don't believe in birth control. Don't use it.



Don't like the health plan - get another job.


There is probably a discussion to be had that the provision seemed to greatly reduce abortion.

Isn't that a conversation or point to think about?


There are far far bigger problems to worry about if the cost of the pill is such a barrier that women who work would rather risk an unwanted pregnancy.

If that were true, America is rotting from the inside out, and free birth control pills is like sticking a coat of paint on a house about to fall down.

Is your country really so lacking in personal responsibility, sexual awareness and morality that you have to pay women not to get pregnant and have abortions?

edit on 6/10/2017 by UKTruth because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 6 2017 @ 01:00 PM
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a reply to: UKTruth


Unacceptable. Women shouldn't have their sexuality under religious scrutiny to get and keep a job.



posted on Oct, 6 2017 @ 01:02 PM
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a reply to: UKTruth


If you're living in a house that's about to fall down, the last thing you need is an unexpected pregnancy.



posted on Oct, 6 2017 @ 01:02 PM
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originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: luthier

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: windword

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: windword
a reply to: whywhynot


Again, this isn't about money. It's about religious exemption.



Again, this is really about religious freedom.


Religious freedom is a personal choice, not a choice an employer makes for their employees. Don't believe in birth control. Don't use it.



Don't like the health plan - get another job.


There is probably a discussion to be had that the provision seemed to greatly reduce abortion.

Isn't that a conversation or point to think about?


There are far far bigger problems to worry about if the cost of the pill is such a barrier that women who work would rather risk an unwanted pregnancy.

If that were true, America is rotting from the inside out, and free birth control pills is like sticking a coat of paint on a house about to fall down.


Lol it doesn't matter what you think or what your morals think.

If the aca birth control provision saved babies from being aborted that should be a real dilemma for anyone not a hypocritical non thinking identity political player.

It is a fact it has been part of the reduction.



posted on Oct, 6 2017 @ 01:02 PM
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originally posted by: windword
a reply to: UKTruth


Unacceptable. Women shouldn't have their sexuality under religious scrutiny to get and keep a job.



What has sexuality got to do with it?



posted on Oct, 6 2017 @ 01:04 PM
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a reply to: UKTruth

Is it a bigger deal to judge the mother and her morals or to save the baby.

I think I can answer for you based on your posts.



posted on Oct, 6 2017 @ 01:04 PM
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a reply to: luthier

Well now women get another job with the health plan they like or pay for pills themselves, right?



posted on Oct, 6 2017 @ 01:06 PM
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a reply to: UKTruth

It really doesn't matter the numbers don't care about your morals or philosophies.


By the way there are millions less jobs than people who can work. If everyone filled every job open it would be several million short of being available for everyone.

Think about that one. Or not just knee jerk.



posted on Oct, 6 2017 @ 01:06 PM
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a reply to: UKTruth



What has sexuality got to do with it?


The new rule allows employers to decide, based on their morality, whether or not to allow birth control coverage. They could deny the coverage to single women, or women who look easy. They could require married women to get permission from their husbands. This isn't an all or nothing rule. It's a rule based on the employer's "sincerely held beliefs".


edit on 6-10-2017 by windword because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 6 2017 @ 01:07 PM
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originally posted by: luthier
a reply to: UKTruth

Is it a bigger deal to judge the mother and her morals or to save the baby.

I think I can answer for you based on your posts.


No need to make a choice on which is a bigger deal. Ban abortions from the point a foetus can feel pain across all states.
Best of both worlds then - and ALL the responsibility falls on the individual.



posted on Oct, 6 2017 @ 01:07 PM
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a reply to: UKTruth

Don't you know how babies are made?



posted on Oct, 6 2017 @ 01:08 PM
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a reply to: UKTruth

Well I live in reality so I deal with the real numbers.

40 percent less abortions. Lowest since r v w.


Your moral high ground will kill babies. Hope you can live with it



posted on Oct, 6 2017 @ 01:09 PM
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originally posted by: Jefferton
I'm sure his *base* will think this is great news.


Yes, we do.



posted on Oct, 6 2017 @ 01:09 PM
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originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: luthier
a reply to: UKTruth

Is it a bigger deal to judge the mother and her morals or to save the baby.

I think I can answer for you based on your posts.


No need to make a choice on which is a bigger deal. Ban abortions from the point a foetus can feel pain across all states.
Best of both worlds then - and ALL the responsibility falls on the individual.


Yeah sure, then the individual will stick a clothes hanger inside her. THAT'S gonna be painful for everybody.



posted on Oct, 6 2017 @ 01:09 PM
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a reply to: burdman30ott6

When the number of abortions rises do to this how will you feel?



posted on Oct, 6 2017 @ 01:10 PM
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How much does it cost for birth control pills in the States? They're pretty cheap here.



posted on Oct, 6 2017 @ 01:10 PM
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a reply to: UKTruth


What does pain have to do with anything?



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