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What if the majority of Mass Shooting False Flags were done in order to take away your guns ?

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posted on Oct, 6 2017 @ 11:05 AM
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a reply to: nOraKat

What if they are mind control experiments?

If it is something more sinister and these people didn't just wake up nuts the day of their massacre then I'm hoping the true agenda becomes known across the country and people rise and revolt.

My intuition tells me it's something deeper and more sinister than we can speculate.




posted on Oct, 6 2017 @ 12:35 PM
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if the so-called deep state wants to getcha, they don't need to take your guns. they will just drop a bomb on you, like they did on MOVE. i'm really not sure what you think your personal arsenal is protecting you from, tbh.



posted on Oct, 6 2017 @ 12:54 PM
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a reply to: nOraKat

Look , there's one major flaw in the whole "Deep State False Flag" conspiracy.

Its pretty hard to deny that the shooter in Vegas is dead! Either blew his brains out or the LEO's responding shot him. There is some talk he had an escape plan, but that appears rather unlikely unless the LEO's were in on the gag, which is pretty much a big stretch.

So all that being the case.............how many people do you know want to die, likely in a hail of bullets, to care out a false flag operation for the Deep State? There's no acceptable end game! I mean, think about it, MIB comes to your house with $1 Million in cash and says its all yours if you do the Vegas shooting! They'll even pay for the hotel rooms and provide the guns and ammo! After a little bit of thought and staring at the bag of cash.........how many people do you really think are going to take that job in the expectation of EVER GETTING PAID! This isn't the best retirement plan I've ever read about!



posted on Oct, 6 2017 @ 01:04 PM
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Maybe I'm going Tin Hat on this one ... but ...

Aren't hotels with casinos in Las Vegas supposedly some of the most secure areas (monitored) in the US?

How is it that a 60-something guy carried 23 high-powered rifles , hundreds of pounds of ammunition, past all these security measures into his hotel room?

How is it that he removed an 80# hurricane-safe glass pane from his window all without being detected???

Come on now.



posted on Oct, 6 2017 @ 01:25 PM
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a reply to: Gryphon66

Because he was a high roller (good for hotel business), so no one is going to question/bother him. Hell, hotel staff most likely helped him carry it to his room. Assuming, of course that he put them in some kind of containers/bags.



posted on Oct, 6 2017 @ 01:27 PM
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originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: Gryphon66

Because he was a high roller (good for hotel business), so no one is going to question/bother him. Hell, hotel staff most likely helped him carry it to his room. Assuming, of course that he put them in some kind of containers/bags.


I can't imagine the scenario. Sure, players get a lot of perks ... but 23 rifles plus ammo?

Are there no alarms on the windows when the glass is removed/broken?

I can't wrap my head around this one.



posted on Oct, 6 2017 @ 01:27 PM
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originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: Gryphon66

Because he was a high roller (good for hotel business), so no one is going to question/bother him. Hell, hotel staff most likely helped him carry it to his room. Assuming, of course that he put them in some kind of containers/bags.


I can't imagine the scenario. Sure, players get a lot of perks ... but 23 rifles plus ammo?

Are there no alarms on the windows when the glass is removed/broken?

I can't wrap my head around this one.



posted on Oct, 6 2017 @ 01:58 PM
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Getting back to the thread topic....

Can someone tell me how the whole "take away your guns" would work? How would the government know what guns I had, or even if I had any at all? Around here guns are sold at garage and rummage sales like worn out lawn mowers and outgrown clothing. Ammunition is commonly hand loaded, with the bullets hand-cast from lead melted on the BBQ.

Where would they even start? It could never be done.



posted on Oct, 6 2017 @ 02:00 PM
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originally posted by: nOraKat
Its apparent that many people here already suspect this, but do not really talk about it openly.

I thought maybe a thread on this subject is good to have.

If this were the case, it would be one f'ed up situation.

Why would a Deep State want to take away your guns? What do they have in plan?

Is this a ridiculous notion?

Will they take it a step further than moving to ban certain automatic weapons like some have already announced? How will they accomplish that?


It's possible for at least some of these mass shooting to be false flags. Look at some of the real stuff our government has done. However, not all mass shootings are false flags. We know that sometimes people just snap. That's the wild card. They can't control everyone.

If there is a false flag initiative, it's not working very well. We'll have a big argument and discussion, nationally. We already are, but nothing much will come of it.

In reality, we need better mental healthcare. That's the discussion.



posted on Oct, 6 2017 @ 02:30 PM
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Prepare the police state through false flag simulations turning the police into soldiers.
Divide and turn the citizens against each other until they cannot trust their neighbor.
Provoke riots during peacful protests to pass new bills that would be in support of disarment.
Police soldiers will clean house.



posted on Oct, 6 2017 @ 03:27 PM
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originally posted by: nOraKat
Its apparent that many people here already suspect this, but do not really talk about it openly.

I thought maybe a thread on this subject is good to have.

If this were the case, it would be one f'ed up situation.

Why would a Deep State want to take away your guns? What do they have in plan?

Is this a ridiculous notion?

Will they take it a step further than moving to ban certain automatic weapons like some have already announced? How will they accomplish that?


It simply wouldnt be possible. theres more guns than people in this country



posted on Oct, 6 2017 @ 03:57 PM
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Really and why is that? If the people haven't just rolled over because false flag attempts to get them to roll over haven't worked that doesn't mean that they weren't false flag attempts so please explain to me how that equates to their having already been a Revolutionary War. We already know that the government hasn't napped at most things they try so they thought that things like Sandy Hook and Las Vegas would get the people to roll over but they haven't. That just means the people are more resilient and freedom-loving then the government gave them credit for

Jaden



posted on Oct, 6 2017 @ 04:12 PM
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"nothing in politics happens by accident" is a saying that has been repeated by many people for well over a century. I would suspect that much of the "bad" and "evil" that people think has happened may be some kind of political operation. I'm not talking about smaller individual crimes, but larger ones that make national headlines.

I would suspect that much of what makes it to national news that there is some kind of hidden hand guiding the main suspect in some way or another - whether it is 5% to 50% - who really knows, but I would like to debate how much would be reported if it didn't fit political motivation and I have a difficult time believing (anymore) that much of what reported is "real" either in that much of the truth isn't reported pertaining to the story (giving it a totally different meaning). It's all in the framing of the story - or the picture/video. Ever see the image of 2 shadows (all black image) that looks like a guy stabbing another guy? If you remove the framing/cropping, it is actually the opposite, and the guy stabbing is running away and the other person is actually stabbing.



posted on Oct, 6 2017 @ 05:46 PM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: Gryphon66

Because he was a high roller (good for hotel business), so no one is going to question/bother him. Hell, hotel staff most likely helped him carry it to his room. Assuming, of course that he put them in some kind of containers/bags.


I can't imagine the scenario. Sure, players get a lot of perks ... but 23 rifles plus ammo?

Are there no alarms on the windows when the glass is removed/broken?

I can't wrap my head around this one.


Every day he would return with his bag of "golf clubs."



posted on Oct, 6 2017 @ 05:57 PM
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a reply to: nOraKat

A Most Likely Scenario . Nothing seems to Happen by Chance Anymore these days.....



posted on Oct, 6 2017 @ 06:12 PM
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The idea the secret government would do all these horrible murders just to motivate people to pass gun laws has always stricken me as ridiculous


If that is the case, it’s a much deeper reason for them such as to have an excuse to have super surveillance all over the country


But then why do they want to do that



posted on Oct, 6 2017 @ 07:18 PM
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originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: SaturnFX

originally posted by: network dude
If he didn't own all those guns, perhaps he would have made the explosive device he was collecting parts for and killed many, many more.

That would have been much easier to track the moment he started, also found when trying to plant them, etc.

nonsense.


so you are of the opinion his guns acted alone?

Why you (or anyone) worried about NK's favorite potato Kim Jong Un getting a bunch of ICBMs? Nukes don't attack by themselves after all.



posted on Oct, 6 2017 @ 07:36 PM
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originally posted by: nOraKat

Why would a Deep State want to take away your guns? What do they have in plan?

Is this a ridiculous notion?




Well, you see, it goes like this.

The government wants to announce the disclosure.

The disclosure, that is, of extraterrestrials among us.

The problem is that the ET committee has demanded the disarming of all humans before they are revealed to the human population, and emerge from the shadows.

The ET's say they don't want these crazy humans taking pot shots at them, while they walk about the streets on earth.

They have demanded that the Governments of the Earth take control of the situation and ensure the safety of the peaceful extraterrestrials before they will allow the government to go ahead with full disclosure.

So, that's where we are today.

Arms control first. Remove all guns from the citizens.

Then disclosure second.



posted on Oct, 6 2017 @ 11:01 PM
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If that were the case then after combine they would have gone gun grabbing, certainly would have expected it after Sandy Hook.


You couldn't just drop something like that on everyone with a few events. It has to go on for years.



posted on Oct, 6 2017 @ 11:05 PM
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a reply to: AMPTAH

Well that would be something else.

I wouldn't mind gun control if that were the case. But to kill a bunch of innocent people to have that instated..

Pretty wild idea anyways..




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