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About the Vegas Killer... newest info

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posted on Oct, 8 2017 @ 06:56 PM
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a reply to: game over man

The Daily Mail is a tabloid rag just like The Sun. Only these 2 papers as far as I can see are running with this story. Personally I think its simply a smear campaign of hearsay to make the narrative stick. Notice how they've all stopped using the nice grey haired old man picture and are now using the much younger one?
edit on 8-10-2017 by PhyllidaDavenport because: missed a bit




posted on Oct, 8 2017 @ 06:58 PM
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a reply to: NightSkyeB4Dawn

Yes!!! That's what I saw also! And it confused me going forward because everything talked about two broken windows, and it wasn't the same. I thought I had misunderstood something...

Thank you!!!

And thanks DigginDirt!!!



posted on Oct, 8 2017 @ 07:00 PM
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a reply to: CynConcepts

We are kind of on the same page with that.

From looking at the pic, I think Paddock was shot in the torso/abdomen. Sometime after that and while he was laying there dead/dying, he was shot in the mouth to make it appear to be a suicide.



posted on Oct, 8 2017 @ 07:05 PM
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a reply to: CynConcepts

Also, let me know if you want to see the pic I said I marked up and redacted. It sure looks like there was another wound to the torso that was just slightly out of the photo.

(Blood stains on his shirt that look dry and out of place considering the official story.)
edit on 10/8/2017 by MotherMayEye because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 8 2017 @ 07:17 PM
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originally posted by: queenofswords

originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: judydawg

Wynn and some other casinos have had heavier security for a couple of years already.

Maybe this last week just exposed some of it.

Here's an article quoting Steve Wynn a year ago.

Metal detectors etc etc already there.

Vegas hotel security is largely a secret — but not at the Wynn



Steve Wynn dropped Ray Kelly's name in an interview saying he was also involved in setting up some of the security measures now in place at Wynn Resorts. He did not seem to want to give too many details regarding the nature of some of those techniques. K2 Intelligence is the company Kelly is now involved with.


Yup.




posted on Oct, 8 2017 @ 07:17 PM
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Once again the information I am seeing makes me very suspicious.

There are several stories out now saying that the gunman had a hand written note in his hotel room with ballistic trajectory calculations on it.

NO ONE manually calculates ballistic trajectory. That is a math problem for an engineering test but not a requirement in real life. You get a range finder, adjust your elevation accordingly and account for windage. Unless you are shooting in to a crowd, in which case you point in the general direction of the targets and blast away. Even a sniper going for a perfect shot at a target a mile away would not perform ballistic calculations before firing. Its just stupid to even suggest it.

Done.



posted on Oct, 8 2017 @ 07:25 PM
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a reply to: Boadicea

"Lilly" is a phantom just like Campos is.




posted on Oct, 8 2017 @ 07:25 PM
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a reply to: Vroomfondel

ITA.

I think that trajectory calculations-story sounds ridiculous.

Someone saw numbers on that paper, it was reported to the press, and the trajectory calculations story had to be invented to explain what the numbers were.

(Perhaps they were possible order amounts & prices for a large amount of weapons and ammunitions that Paddock was privately selling using his own registered weapons as 'floor models'?)



posted on Oct, 8 2017 @ 07:27 PM
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Has anybody considered the possibility that the "body" is a prop ?

Maybe there were no shots fired from the room in question.

Hint Hint

There's actually no real proof at all.




posted on Oct, 8 2017 @ 07:31 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen



Ok, looking closer here and keeping in mind that a *lot* of private security companies have ties and/or have people that started their careers in the various Intelligence Agencies; agencies that have the ability to generate personas at will that tend to be a bit flimsy and only fleshed out enough to carry a small part in a larger operation.

K2 Intelligence:


Mr. Jeremy M. Kroll
Co-Founder, Chief Executive Officer, President and Director
Mr. Jules B. Kroll
Co-Founder, Chairman and Principal
Age: 75
Mr. Gad Goldstein
Founder of K2g Global, CEO of K2g Global and Executive MD of Tel Aviv
Ms. Renee M. Lercher
Chief Financial Officer
Mr. Robert Brenner Esq.
Chief Operating Officer, Chief Legal Officer and Global Head of Cyber Defense Services



posted on Oct, 8 2017 @ 07:33 PM
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a reply to: jadedANDcynical

damn.
it was mossad after all?



posted on Oct, 8 2017 @ 07:34 PM
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I just looked up info on rigor,,,first the body goes flaccid...then rigor sets in it can be 2 to 6 hours starting in the eyes neck and jaw....the guy in the video said rigor had set in because of the color of the skin around the neck and something else I don;t exactly remember




originally posted by: tiredoflooking
You know the picture that we have of the crime scene is just not right. Those curtains should be black as someone else previously said and there should be thousands of rounds. Maybe the second room shows such and we do not know.

The thing written about rigor isn't true...it sets in after an hour and it doesn't stay at room temp. It goes away in ... I can't remember 2 hours? I'm a veterinary tech. So lots of animals.



posted on Oct, 8 2017 @ 07:35 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

I definitely think that the body was not fully photographed for a reason.

We are seeing only one angle of the room, in all of the pics that have been made public, and conveniently you cannot see all of the body.

There is a sizable blood stain on Paddock's shirt like he was shot in the abdomen. But the photos don't show enough of his abdomen to say if there is a gunshot wound there, too, or not.

Prop-like, yes. Conveniently photographed to suit the official narrative, yes.



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posted on Oct, 8 2017 @ 07:37 PM
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a reply to: dashen

Hell if I know, but one of the founding members, "has more than 30 years of experience in the Israeli Security and Intelligence community," and, "served as a Division Head, in the rank equivalent to Major General at Israeli Security and Intelligence community," so you tell me.



posted on Oct, 8 2017 @ 07:39 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

Hmmmmm... Square One: The hotel room... the body...

Okay.... yeah, you're right. I have no idea what the inside of any room or suite looks like in the Mandalay Bay. I had dinner there once -- yummy teriyaki salmon! -- and that's the total extent of my personal knowledge of Mandalay Bay.

But as was noted earlier, IF those are pics are of the actual crime scene, then it's before being processed, as there are no evidence markers anywhere -- and they would be everywhere after processing! And from the pics, it would seem that no one else is in there but the photographer... and there should be cops everywhere.

I've been wondering how long it would have taken the shooter(s) to set up for their dastardly deed... why no one saw or felt or heard the glass breaking... setting up the weapons...

Should I be wondering how long it took to set up some bogus pics of a bogus crime scene???



posted on Oct, 8 2017 @ 07:44 PM
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originally posted by: Boadicea
And from the pics, it would seem that no one else is in there but the photographer... and there should be cops everywhere.



There is a person in one photo:



Foot and leg on the left...not a uniformed officer.

ETA: On second thought...that might not be a person. My first thought was that it was.
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posted on Oct, 8 2017 @ 07:46 PM
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a reply to: MotherMayEye

In my wanderings today I saw a pic of the bloodied face. I didn't look too hard or too long, but the face didn't look right even under the circumstances. Like it was too flat... It didn't feel right.

But like I said, I did little more than glance, and that's all I've got to go on.



posted on Oct, 8 2017 @ 07:49 PM
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a reply to: MotherMayEye
It looks like the leg of a person, likely male.

It does not appear to be a uniform, but our crime scene photographers don't wear uniforms either.



edit on 8-10-2017 by NightSkyeB4Dawn because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 8 2017 @ 07:51 PM
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originally posted by: MotherMayEye

There is a person in one photo:



Foot and leg on the left...not a uniformed officer.

ETA: On second thought...that might not be a person. My first thought was that it was.


It looks like a leg and foot to me too... I've seen shoes just like that. Looks like probably faded jeans.



posted on Oct, 8 2017 @ 07:52 PM
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a reply to: Boadicea

That's the pic I shared but I redacted the face. Look at the lower part of the shirt...there is what appears to be a sizable blood stain.



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