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About the Vegas Killer... newest info

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posted on Oct, 6 2017 @ 07:17 PM
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a reply to: mkultra11


I never read anything about how he actually died. Gun in mouth? What about an autopsy? They can determine how long the body was dead.


Good catch. I've been all over the police statements, and no one has said how he died, nor how long they think he had been dead. No mention of an autopsy either.

Take this for what it's worth, but I read a comment discussing the leaked photos of Paddock's dead body, and it was said that it had obviously been moved, and that both fresh red blood and old dark "coagulated" blood could be distinguished in the photo. I admit that I've only glanced at the pics myself. I don't want to know bad enough to search them out and look for myself.




posted on Oct, 6 2017 @ 07:18 PM
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a reply to: evc1shop


That reminds me of the two ladies who were in the pickup truck in LA delivering newspapers and the police shot that truck full of holes with a good volley of bullets and they were barely harmed. It is possible depending on the circumstances.


That's right! I remember that -- and it was crazy at the time just looking at their pickup.

I guess when nothing is what it should be, expect anything!



posted on Oct, 6 2017 @ 07:26 PM
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originally posted by: Dudemo5
What I find strangest is the house with no furniture and the fridge-sized safe full of guns. Who lives in a house like that? I guess the answer is: someone who's going to snap and start murdering strangers.


People who move around to find work and don't want to worry about shipping boxes of junk around with them. Perhaps they planned to return to the Philippines someday. Then the only things that matter are a mattress/futon, TV, a computer desk and maybe a laptop/desktop PC. For him, his collection of guns are all that mattered.

I'm living like that now. Looking at their house, as there are no trees to create shade, keeping the curtains closed is necessary to keep the house cool. My parents do that in their home, and I do the same in my apartment whenever the council chops up the trees outside our apartments.



posted on Oct, 6 2017 @ 07:33 PM
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a reply to: KansasGirl


But remember, they tell us he had three cameras set up in the hallway and above his door's peephole.


Yes, but it's also been said that they were not operating. At all. Which would explain how and why Campos was able to get all the way to the door and actually try to get in before being shot at through the door: whoever was inside couldn't see him outside.



posted on Oct, 6 2017 @ 07:57 PM
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I find something in this article very curious:

'I was just doing my job': Security guard credited with diverting gunfire away from Las Vegas concert


Campos was patrolling the halls inside the hotel and was responding to reports of a commotion, said David Hickey, president of the hotel's security guard union.


A commotion? Not reports of gunfire? Just a commotion? Maybe the sounds... even the vibrations or shaking... of breaking glass? Or if something went sideways, perhaps the commotion included yelling or brawling and a struggle?


Once Campos got to the shooter's floor, he discovered the stairwells had been barricaded. As Campos neared the gunman's room, he was shot in the upper right thigh. Paddock, who was armed with a cache of firearms and thousands of rounds of ammunition, had "fired through the door, striking Mr. Campos," Hickey said.


Actually, Campos did more then "near" the gunman's room, he tried to open the door, and that's when the gunfire came through the door. From the Daily Beast's interview with Hickey:


When Campos first arrived on the 32nd floor, he did so by elevator because Paddock had somehow blocked stairwell doors leading to the hallway outside of his room, Hickey said. The door to the room itself was also barricaded, Campos found when he tried to open it, just before the bullets came through the door.



posted on Oct, 6 2017 @ 08:31 PM
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originally posted by: Boadicea
a reply to: mkultra11


I never read anything about how he actually died. Gun in mouth? What about an autopsy? They can determine how long the body was dead.


Good catch. I've been all over the police statements, and no one has said how he died, nor how long they think he had been dead. No mention of an autopsy either.

Take this for what it's worth, but I read a comment discussing the leaked photos of Paddock's dead body, and it was said that it had obviously been moved, and that both fresh red blood and old dark "coagulated" blood could be distinguished in the photo. I admit that I've only glanced at the pics myself. I don't want to know bad enough to search them out and look for myself.


If you look at the picture you'll see that his body is on top of a weapon and there's one at his feet, I think on a stand over his foot, if I remember correctly. So how was he positioned to kill himself? I don't doubt he did it or anything, but it seems what they are getting to the public lacks details. There's definitely more to it here and I think his brother knows all about it. Or maybe it was him doing the mind blown gesture 500 times in his interview.



posted on Oct, 6 2017 @ 08:31 PM
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There is a link showing photos of the revolver he shot himself with. You're right, they're bloody.

I could link the site wth a warning or try to clip out the image of the revolver appearing in the photo...

I also been digging into his pilots status, the planes he owned, their features.

Probably deserving of a thread of its own.

Not now though, maybe in the early AM



posted on Oct, 6 2017 @ 08:40 PM
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I'm still trying to catch up on these threads so this may have been addressed already but... It seems that the one interview that was done by the reporter with the girl---the one who said someone told them they were all going to die---was a girl looking to get on TV on her 21st birthday (despite the fact that she looked to be about 16 to this old lady's eyes.)

Not another single soul has come forth to collaborate that story about the doom sayer. It may have been prompted---speculation again---by the doom-porn message heard recently on tv in the Los Angeles area (if my memory is correct). Nobody seems to be able to identify the girl in the video who was telling about the "You're all going to die" couple. If security escorted them out it would seem that security would surely remember escorting a person who was predicting death and destruction---unless the security guard who escorted them out was one of the off-duty deputies who was killed when the shooting started. Maybe the cops just haven't tracked her down yet---or maybe they have and she admitted that she made it up.

About the alleged "bookings" of other hotels---I spoke today with a person who is quite familiar with the systems used by the big hotels. She says that those "bookings" could have been added to the reservations list anytime---after the fact and it would take a pretty savvy computer nerd to find when the "reservations" were actually put into the system. It would also make a difference if the reservations were done on-line or on the phone.

Of course, her theory is that this is a deep state operation and the Las Vegas police are being led around by the FBI, Homeland Security, ATF, and all those other alphabet agencies who have "reason" to be there. She swears that she could go into their system and do backdated reservations, print it up and hand it to the cops and they would never go look to see when the data was entered. Her belief is that if she can do it, any government spook wanting to lay false trails could do it.

I'm still hoping to find out where his plane was parked on Sunday night and in what condition of readiness for a flight. We were initially told that he owned two planes but now it comes out that he had sold one of them.... Makes me wonder about a lot of things...

I know that after listening to several "alternative" media shows there are as many theories as there are hosts and guests and all---every one I have heard thus far has clung to the same theory they began to spout at the beginning.... I have yet to hear one say that anything presented has made him/her change their mind. They are, just like msm, twisting themselves into pretzels to try to make their theory fit even if well-known common sense facts contradict them.

For example: The theory that because he was 54 years old he couldn't possibly have lugged all those guns and ammo to his hotel room, nor could he have fired those weapons for 10 minutes straight. That is just bosh. Anyone who spends time at a gun range will see a goodly number of senior citizens out there practicing.
Or the idea that he didn't practice shooting the weapons because no gun range reported his being there practicing. If he was practicing to shoot down into a crowd going to a gun range wouldn't give him any practice for that. He'd more likely be using his hunting license and going out into some canyon and practicing while pretending to be deer hunting or something. If he planned this attack he knew exactly how far away he could be and do maximum damage with the weapons he had.

I'll be interested to see if a list of weapons is released and which were fired that night.

I'm still just looking for facts. There seems to be lots of "information chatter" out there---but I learned long, long ago not to trust someone on a radio or tv show claiming expertise and "inside baseball information" on this or that...or on an internet forum.

I want to believe that this retired millionaire accountant and gambler just wanted his name in the history books and accomplished that without any help from anyone. That he is one of those people who, upon hearing that someone had shot up a crowd immediately said, "Pretty bad marksmanship if he fired 30 bullets and only killed 1 person." The guy who thought (or said) that he could shoot into a crowd and get a casualty for each bullet. I simply can't get my mind around it. But---I'm not a gambler. Not to say I've never gambled, I have. I had a ton of fun losing my allotment for gambling every time I did it at a casino. Lucky for me, my Beloved is pretty good at blackjack so he always won far more than I'd lost. That said: The thought of betting $10k on ANYTHING---isn't within my comprehension.

I hope that is reason the people of Jackson Tennessee lost a wonderful man on his first wedding anniversary. I don't want to think that the US government had anything to do with his death. But I do know that Fast and Furious happened.



posted on Oct, 6 2017 @ 08:47 PM
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TODAY...this is the reason given for the security guard being on the 32nd floor. Police call it a "lucky break".


An open door a few rooms away from the Las Vegas suite of the man who was gunning down concertgoers at a music festival set off an alarm that prompted a response from a security guard, Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department Undersheriff Kevin C. McMahill said Friday.


Source: www.wyff4.com...



posted on Oct, 6 2017 @ 09:05 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen
I'm actually pretty surprised that a lot of folks weren't shot on the street by handguns. Nevada is a carry state if memory serves me so it makes sense that there would be a lot of guns on citizens and wouldn't be a stretch to believe that a few of those carrying, legal or not, might have begun shooting irresponsibly.



posted on Oct, 6 2017 @ 09:45 PM
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originally posted by: diggindirt
a reply to: xuenchen
I'm actually pretty surprised that a lot of folks weren't shot on the street by handguns. Nevada is a carry state if memory serves me so it makes sense that there would be a lot of guns on citizens and wouldn't be a stretch to believe that a few of those carrying, legal or not, might have begun shooting irresponsibly.


The majority of people on the Strip are tourists that fly in.

A few locals do carry guns around, but not many.

The "other" shootings that night were committed by out of town people from California.

All very strange and "coincidental".

5 "other" shootings on the Strip that night before midnight, 2 people wounded, none killed.

MSM not reporting any.

On average, there's only 1 or 2 Strip shootings per year.


edit on Oct-06-2017 by xuenchen because: wild



posted on Oct, 6 2017 @ 09:53 PM
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The MSM has now replaced the half-way decent reporters covering Las Vegas press conferences, with those who barely passed journalism 101. Their questions frustrate law enforcement more than Paddock has.

"Mr. Sherriff. Would the, err.. explosives like blow-up if he got into a car accident?"



posted on Oct, 6 2017 @ 10:00 PM
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a reply to: carewemust

The entire press conferences are restricted and controlled to the letter.

This whole thing is nuts.

I know a few things I won't even post.

But something I knew a few days ago, is there were at least 2 people shooting from inside the concert crowd.

Bullet tests have already confirmed some.

Authorities know it and will not confirm it.

Some videos in other threads have at least one.

It's real.



posted on Oct, 6 2017 @ 10:26 PM
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originally posted by: djz3ro

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
a reply to: DBCowboy


Since people started smoking weed and going out and picking fights.



So never then? After all, who gets stoned then goes looking for a fight? Nobody, that's who!

Ignorant comments aside this is a great thread, lots of us, the world over, would like to know why.





Never then is right , stoners don't go looking for fights.

Valium being a muscle relaxant is highly unlikely to make people flip out either.



posted on Oct, 6 2017 @ 11:13 PM
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originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: carewemust

The entire press conferences are restricted and controlled to the letter.

This whole thing is nuts.

I know a few things I won't even post.

But something I knew a few days ago, is there were at least 2 people shooting from inside the concert crowd.

Bullet tests have already confirmed some.

Authorities know it and will not confirm it.

Some videos in other threads have at least one.

It's real.



"Bullet tests?" Is that what your source called it? I hope not, because it's usually referred to as "ballistics."

So you won't post these few things that you know, huh? You know it's lame to say that right? It's easy to conclude that you don't actually know anything, as you claim. Why say it?



posted on Oct, 7 2017 @ 12:18 AM
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If you have seen the picture of the shooter dead, the one of the waist up including head. I don't think it can be linked here because of terms. If you look at that image and zoom in. There is no blood on the spent shells around his head in the pooling of his blood. This indicates he was dead before those shells were shot, or else they would have blood on them. Things that make you go hmmmmmmmm......



posted on Oct, 7 2017 @ 01:35 AM
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originally posted by: Boadicea
a reply to: PhyllidaDavenport


It has just been confirmed on CNN's website that the piece of paper contained only numbers, which they are investigating at the moment


Thank you!

Just numbers, eh? That's curious. Not sure what to make of that.


Bank account numbers? Phone numbers? Code to the livestream he was setting up?

It sounds more like Lewis Carroll as time passes and these tidbits come out.



posted on Oct, 7 2017 @ 01:50 AM
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I saw that video posted on ATS of one guy in a yellow (police? security?) vest who looked like he was kneeling on one knee to shoot.

There's no doubt that there's a lot more known than what authorities are admitting. Even non-conspiracy-minded people are sensing this.



posted on Oct, 7 2017 @ 02:08 AM
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originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: xuenchen

The MSM has now replaced the half-way decent reporters covering Las Vegas press conferences, with those who barely passed journalism 101. Their questions frustrate law enforcement more than Paddock has.

"Mr. Sherriff. Would the, err.. explosives like blow-up if he got into a car accident?"


I think the fact that he had no social media presence has absolutely confounded the msm. They are so accustomed to doing their "sleuthing" online that they have no idea how to really investigate and report.



posted on Oct, 7 2017 @ 02:21 AM
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a reply to: xuenchen

Just to be clear---you are saying that in an average year only 1 or 2 shooting happen and yet there were 5 shooting on the strip in a single evening? Have all these crimes already been solved?

I am trying to patiently await the release of the ballistics reports from both the hotel and the venue site.




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