About the Vegas Killer... newest info

a reply to: xuenchen

So... based on what you've heard... is information being withheld for the purpose of finding other perps? And do you believe Paddock actually pulled the trigger? And was he alone in the room when he did it?

a reply to: Willtell

That’s probably one reason we don’t have any video or pictures of him with this entourage of baggage where inside is 23 semi automatic and virtual automatic killing machines going onto their hotel

all the camera footage from the hotel is in possession of police/FBI

They are reviewing it to construct his movements over last 3 days before shooting

You will not see any frames or clips for a while as investigation continues

This will take time . Don't expect answers tomorrow

originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: Willtell

Relax.

The hotel security has him on camera on more than 50 video clips.

And all employees in the same clips at MB have been questioned.

All this will come out much later, long after the investigation.

That's assuming the MSM reports it accurately.

He brought lots of luggage up the elevators several times.

He had a bellhop help him one time.

None of which was suspicious at the time.

Hotel security has over 1000 cameras in Mandalay Bay.

The only areas not covered by surveillance is washrooms and the hotel rooms and most guest hallways.

Everywhere else has cameras.

Since you seem to psychic, what was one the piece of paper? That's what I want to know most. Oh, and why he had a camera on himself but not recording.

a reply to: dbuddy

...what was one the piece of paper? That's what I want to know most.

Good question!

I think many of us would like to know more about that.

ETA: Just an FYI, you probably didn't see, but the poster mentioned previously being a long-time resident of LV, and is presumably hearing local scuttlebutt. That was my take on it anyway.

The reason we don't see too many social media posts from real time in the other casinos is because the security people shut down most of the indoor cell phone repeater systems shortly after the shootings started.

Cell phones don't work well inside around there because of the buildings.

Keep in mind too, the social media posts that happened at the concert were from outdoors.

Internet reception outside was working the entire time.

And as I said before, hotel-casino security was taking cell phones from as many people as possible for a couple of hours.

a reply to: KansasGirl

Could've been a set up the entire time to push an agenda considering all the white bashing going on or as another post/thread stated about adding security everywhere to make certain people rich. Who knows

originally posted by: Boadicea
16 Unanswered Questions About The Las Vegas Shooting

1 -- Photos of Stephen Paddock’s hotel room have been leaked, and one of those photos appears to show a suicide note. Why hasn’t the public been told what is in that note?
2 -- Were there additional shooters?
3 -- Why were law enforcement authorities discussing “another suspect on the fourth floor”
4 -- It would have been impossible for Stephen Paddock to kill and wound 573 people in less than five minutes of shooting with the kinds of weapons that he is alleged to have used. So why won’t law enforcement authorities acknowledge this fact?
5 -- How in the world did Paddock get 42 guns and “several thousand rounds of ammo” into his hotel room without anyone noticing?
6 --How did someone with “no military background” and that wasn’t a “gun guy at all” operate such advanced weapons?
7 -- Why was one woman telling people in the crowd that they were all going to die45 minutes before the attack?
8 -- Why did it take law enforcement authorities 72 minutes to get into Stephen Paddock’s hotel room?
9 -- Why did Paddock wire $100,000 to the Philippines last week?
10 -- Why was Paddock’s girlfriend, Marilou Danley, in the Philippines when the attack took place? Did she know what was about to happen?
11 -- Was Paddock on antidepressants like so many other mass killers in the past have been?
12 -- Why was ISIS so eager to take responsibility for this attack, and why was the FBI so quick to dismiss that connection?
13 -- Apparently Paddock had earned millions of dollars “through real estate deals”. If he was so wealthy, why would he all of a sudden snap like that?
14 -- Why did he move so frequently? It is being reported that Paddock had 27 different residences during his adult life.
15 -- Why were nearly all of the exits out of the concert venue completely blocked?
16 -- Why was a country music festival chosen as the target? Was the goal to kill as many Trump supporters and other conservatives as possible? And is there evidence that Stephen Paddock was connected to Antifa in any way?

Some of these questions are more pertinent than others in my opinion... and some are not pertinent at all. There's more at the link. Just posting for informational purposes at this point.

1. They stated it was blank but the police are not obligated to share information with the public during a criminal investigation.
2. There is no evidence of a second shooter other than speculation. Forensics can take time but angles would allow them to determine if there was more than one. Chances are if there were, we would have that information and a manhunt would be on.
3. In the heat of any moment like this, rumors and speculation will find a foothold. Panic can also create exaggeration and a sentence can be expanded and compounded by additional input.
4. 573 people were not shot. Most were injured in fleeing...trampled, falling, diving. No final count of how many were actually shot outside of the 58 dead has been published. Further, one bullet can hit more than one person.
5. Discussed. I am no gun pro but most can be broken down into smaller bags. Others can be concealed in all manner of ways including golf bags.
6. One must assume he knew how to use them. From his vantage point, he wasn't trying to be a marksman, he was "point and shoot". A trained sniper could have taken down far more, most without even realizing what was happening. He just emptied his clips into a very large crowd.
7. There are guys on the street saying the world is going to end too. And we're all gonna die if we don't accept their religion. I would be more surprised if there wasn't one or a few wackos in the crowd like this.
8. Good question but I would also ask why, during the time of almost an hour when they arrived and broke down his door that he stopped shooting.
9. He could have wired it for the same reason he sent his GF away. Her sisters said it was to help their family buy a new home. If he had as much money as they say he could have just as easily put it in offshore banks and it would have been more than a measly $100K.
10. He could have sent her away which is what she is stating. His brother stated that he was trying to take care of her and it would not be strange, if he truly cared for her, to get her as far from him as possible before he committed the crime.
11. Apparently he was.
12. ISIS is getting their butts kicked in the ME at this time and have been relegated to the lone cell attacks we've seen in Europe. And do you think they would not lie to make themselves (and their believers) look good?
13. Great question we may never answer.
14. He was a real estate investor and speculator. The tax evasion and flipping homes could net him a lot of money.
15. The entrances are typically blocked to prevent non-paying people from entering. And then most are often closed after the show starts.
16. He apparently was looking for a venue with a lot of people if he scoped out other shows as it is being reported. The type of music was not important, the number of people, his angle and access being more important. Not all country fans are Trump supporters...stereotypes anyone? And no, no evidence whatsoever only hopes by some and speculation by others. False information always follows these kind of incidents as those with no knowledge like to play the game of "what if" and then back into a conclusion they want by fitting pieces into it rather than letting those pieces guide them to a real conclusion.

The media is often working with the police and as they get information, they are sometimes told not to report it since it is part of the ongoing investigation and could potentially jeopardize it. Divulging sensitive information that they may have after such discussions could cost them a career. Ethical media has always tried to work with law enforcement. Unethical media just make it up or report rumors without substantiating the truth.

Police have retracted the "escape plan" that was speculated. He was monitoring their entrance, not attempting to evade it.

originally posted by: xuenchen

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Cell phones don't work well inside around there because of the buildings.
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Well, not exactly. Even though it is illegal as hell, casinos try to jamb wireless devices inside casinos, or do everything they can to defeat their signals (if not outright jamming). Has nothing to do with the shooting, but everything to do with not allowing you to focus on anything other than putting your money down on a bet, be it a slot machine, horse bet, gambling table...you name it. It's the same reason you don't see any clocks telling people what time it is, and the same reason it's just a maze to walk around in...never a clear alley to a door. They want you inside gambling, not surfing the net, not going outside for a breath of fresh air...just keep puttin' your money down!!

Seriously.

a reply to: Boadicea

Here's another problem the authorities are worried about.

Las Vegas shooter had 50 pounds of Tannerite in car: Why that's concerning

Again, this is a MSM report ^^^^^^^^^^

But here's what that stuff can do.....

originally posted by: firerescue
a reply to: Willtell

That’s probably one reason we don’t have any video or pictures of him with this entourage of baggage where inside is 23 semi automatic and virtual automatic killing machines going onto their hotel

all the camera footage from the hotel is in possession of police/FBI

They are reviewing it to construct his movements over last 3 days before shooting

You will not see any frames or clips for a while as investigation continues

This will take time . Don't expect answers tomorrow

This will take time . Don't expect answers tomorrow

My friend, I don’t ever expect any honest answers from the FBI, now, anytime, or anytime soon.

Recall their wonderful honest work at WTC 1 and II attack in 93 and 2001 respectively

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

Well all the big casinos use repeater systems and wireless internet booster systems.

You can google all that and see.

here's one company ......

Cellular Repeater Infrastructures for Casino Applications

And,

MGM Resorts, the largest casino operator on the Vegas Strip, said Wednesday it launched a mobile gaming platform and online tournament available on the Wi-Fi system at nine MGM properties

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

And you may have missed this......

www.abovetopsecret.com...

I will personally eat my own # and provide video of it, if a video shows him to accidentally shoot him himself. If you saw the death photo you would see no damage to the front facial side, indicating the barrel was inside his mouth, if somehow the gun went off falling or what not, the probability of the facing correctly and also at the same angle has to be damn mathematically impossible. The chance would be so low it would be hard to compute. I mean you could just Google "live leak paddock" and see yourself. That got to be hands down the absolute worst theory I have read so far. Going to be tough to beat that one.

Oh and regarding the note. You can clearly tell it's not a blank piece of paper. There is something written(or SOMETHING) on it, it's definitely not blank. There's a pen to the left, and a roll of tape sitting on top of it to keep it weighted down. Notice the said there was nothing left behind. After those photos leaked, and they were forced to address it, but now say it was nothing. He left it right in front of where he shot himself, and the way it was left to make sure it stayed there, definitely something on it.

a reply to: xuenchen

Now that's some crazy #.

These people are fleeing from a threat for sure.

Even more questions.

Not a peep about this on msm.

yes room service said they didn't see anything like that in the room...they were still in the bags or hidden....if he let room service in do you really think he would leave those guns out in the open??

originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: Boadicea
a reply to: carewemust

I hadn't seen you say that, but you may be right.

I read something that made me wonder about that, but I was off on another tangent and didn't follow it up. But something about someone in a hotel uniform. Or maybe some of the perps somehow got hold of some uniforms?

If I find anything again, I'll post it.

Back when it was believed he only had 10-12 guns in the room, I said that there must have been inside-the-hotel help. Not because bringing to the room was suspicious. Can do that easily using multiple trips over 3 days. But because the hotel maids didn't think anything was unusual.

In fact, to this very day, have investigators stated if room-service notice noticed the weapons? The MSM needs to send a fresh batch of MSM reporters to these law enforcement press conferences. The ones that are there must be "senior" correspondents. (i.e. lacking basic skills)

a reply to: research100

There's been some statements that he had the do not disturb sign on the door.

a reply to: xuenchen

that is interesting and the first I have heard that...could it be a combination of the ywo...they came in and cleaned in the early days he was staying there and then that last day put up the do not disturb because he got all the arms and ammo out??? guess we will see....do you have a link??? just wondering where this info came from

a reply to: Boadicea

His brother is a wack job. I bet his brother talked him into doing the shooting with him, and then he shot his brother and bolted. Perfect crime. He would have used his brother to disable the cameras and alarms, because he worked for Lockheed Martin and had the clearances, and then kill him and leave him to take the wrap. The dead brother was apparently wealthy, so there may be a interfamily insurance claim to consider. Another Cain and Abel story. Who knows though?

originally posted by: Lysergic
a reply to: xuenchen

Now that's some crazy #.

These people are fleeing from a threat for sure.

Even more questions.

Not a peep about this on msm.

How far away is Ceasars Palace from the music festival park?

The Sherriff said during this morning's briefing that some people who were not badly wounded ran into adjacent hotels. If someone comes into the hotel lobby with bloodied clothes, yelling "shooter!", panic would ensue.