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About the Vegas Killer... newest info

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posted on Nov, 10 2017 @ 05:30 PM
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This isn't new but it's the first chance I've had to post it:

COMMENTARY: Has the FBI become a telemarketing firm for the trial lawyers?

Is it possible that the FBI uses the trust and bond formed with victims of violent crime and even mass murder to sign them up as clients for private law firms?

Here’s the story.

J.P.’s niece was contacted by a FBI “victim specialist” a week after the Vegas tragedy — at the worst and most fragile moment of her life. The “victim specialist” identified herself as an employee of the FBI and said her goal was to help victims such as J.P.’s niece receive the money “she needs and deserves.” She asked this grieving widow to sign a form and send it back to get the process started quickly.

The form was a contract to join a class-action lawsuit against MGM and Mandalay Bay. Worst of all, it was a contract with two private law firms. I’ve seen the contract the FBI sent to this widow.

J.P. Hyan called the Los Angeles FBI office about this. The FBI “agent on duty” said he saw nothing wrong with such activity. He strongly suggested J.P. have his niece speak only to the FBI “victim specialist.”


Beyond the very obvious inappropriateness of a government agency exploiting injured, grieving and otherwise traumatized victims and/or witnesses by acting as solicitors for private parties in the course of an official investigation, it's the last sentence (that I bolded) that raises big fat waving red flags... I suspect that anyone who joins the class action lawsuit is required to sign a confidentiality/nondisclosure agreement and to discuss their case only with the attorneys and law enforcement.

Neat trick there to keep victims and witnesses from talking publicly.




posted on Nov, 10 2017 @ 06:23 PM
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a reply to: PhyllidaDavenport


Three Shooters


I believe this is a new analysis of an old video posted by someone earlier in this thread... or maybe it was the other thread. In the previous analysis posted, the narrator of the video pointed out the first and most obvious black-clad figure to appear. Some suggested he could be a stagehand or security or something. But in the comments at the link, a commenter said she saw additional figures -- but she didn't elaborate in the comments I saw. So this is really cool that someone else found them and highlighted them for us! Thank you for posting it!!!


The Dark Helicopter


If ATA posted this one, I missed it -- so I thank you for posting it again -- but it sure corroborates what ATA's been finding, eh? I don't know what to make of it beyond that it's quite odd, and it would seem someone is erasing lines and dots as another poster phrased it. I want to hear ATA's comments.


Prince al Waleed


Given the events that are playing out now, if the other "facts" as presented are true, the assassination attempt makes sense and warrants more attention. I have wondered about it. But I tend to think the above is not a totally accurate version.



posted on Nov, 10 2017 @ 07:17 PM
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a reply to: Boadicea

Oh my gosh -- I just remembered something! A couple weeks ago I was re-visiting the Aussie guy and his various interviews and social media postings. He not only said there was a shoot out on his floor -- the 32nd floor -- but that one of the bad guys looked "Asian," which is a common reference to Middle Easterners -- including Saudis of course.

I'll have to get back to that. I think that Aussie guy is more important to understanding the story than we currently realize...

ETA:
a reply to: PhyllidaDavenport

I meant to post this to you -- not myself... d'oh!
edit on 10-11-2017 by Boadicea because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 24 2017 @ 05:47 PM
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Here's 2 recent videos I don't think have been posted here.

First one is a woman being shot in the leg. It's not gory but you can tell it's real



This video is CC footage from a business to the East of the concert grounds where people ran to get away. Tucker Carlson interviews a lawyer for the victims who is suing the MGM grand. What looks like bugs swarming around the light is actually rotor wash from a helicopter hovering overhead that coincidentally does not show up on transponder returns.
Here's the Tucker Carlson video



posted on Dec, 22 2017 @ 09:30 AM
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Las Vegas gunman shot himself in the mouth after killing 58 people - 21 of whom were shot in the head and 36 who took bullets to the chest and back

Not much new in the article.

All 58 victims of the Las Vegas mass shooting died of gunshot wounds, a coroner said Thursday, revealing that no one was trampled to death trying to escape from an outdoor concert that turned into a massacre.


The only wound to the shooter, Stephen Craig Paddock, 64, was a self-inflicted gunshot to the mouth, Fudenberg said.


Four victims had multiple gunshot wounds.


Paddock's brain was sent to Stanford University in California to study after a visual inspection found no abnormalities.

Honestly, this article doesn't seem to have any real purpose... nothing new to report... so why? Makes me wonder if something new is about to drop, and this is somehow setting the stage. Or maybe my tinfoil hat is just too tight this morning!



posted on Dec, 22 2017 @ 09:36 AM
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a reply to: Boadicea

still no motive though,

or explanation how the alleged suicide weapon ended up where it did,

or how they would examine a brain that was scrambled by a bullet



posted on Dec, 22 2017 @ 09:46 AM
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originally posted by: dashen
a reply to: Boadicea

still no motive though,

or explanation how the alleged suicide weapon ended up where it did,

or how they would examine a brain that was scrambled by a bullet


Exactly!!! Just repeating what we've already been told -- that makes no sense as it is... so why double-down on it?

I seriously don't know what they think they can or will find studying a brain that "was scrambled by a bullet" at such close range. It seems to me that it would have been splattered all over the place and there wouldn't even be enough to study. Not to mention that the brother stated that arrangements had been made to cremate the body. So was the brain/head removed before cremation? Was there any cremation at all?

That all just strikes me as weird... and therefore suspicious.



posted on Dec, 22 2017 @ 10:26 AM
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a reply to: dashen

now look ...

making sure everybody automatically believes the "official" story !!

Las Vegas shooting: FBI official says info on motive may take until next October to release


Be prepared to wait a while – possibly until next October – the chief of the FBI’s Las Vegas office revealed this week during an interview in which he said the agency probably wouldn't brief the public until their report is released sometime before the tragedy’s first anniversary.

“Now that’s a long time for some people, but speaking for the FBI, that’s light speed, all right?” Special Agent in Charge Aaron Rouse told the Las Vegas Review-Journal on Wednesday.

He added that FBI investigators have 22,000 hours of surveillance and cellphone footage and 250,000 photos to look over, amounting to about 40 terabytes of data.





posted on Dec, 22 2017 @ 05:05 PM
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originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: dashen

now look ...

making sure everybody automatically believes the "official" story !!

Las Vegas shooting: FBI official says info on motive may take until next October to release



I was just going to post this! You beat me to it!!!

And as suspected, now we know for sure where all the potential cell phone evidence went... of course.

He added that FBI investigators have 22,000 hours of surveillance and cellphone footage and 250,000 photos to look over, amounting to about 40 terabytes of data.



posted on Jan, 12 2018 @ 11:46 PM
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a reply to: Boadicea

January 12, 2018

Probably not a big deal, but Stephen Paddock's girlfriend says that she helped him load ammo magazines from time to time..
www.foxnews.com...



posted on Jan, 14 2018 @ 12:23 AM
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originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: Boadicea

January 12, 2018

Probably not a big deal, but Stephen Paddock's girlfriend says that she helped him load ammo magazines from time to time..
www.foxnews.com...



It seems that Law Enforcement is zeroing in on Paddock's girlfriend.

Marilou Danley, girlfriend of Las Vegas gunman Stephen Paddock, deleted her Facebook account less than an hour before police released Paddock’s name.

Full Story At: www.foxnews.com...

(Does anybody know Why is it so hard to "drag" over text at FoxNews, for copying/pasting? No matter how hard I try, can't highlight more than 9 or 10 words at a time. Using Win10/Edge Browser.)
edit on 1/14/2018 by carewemust because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 16 2018 @ 02:12 PM
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a reply to: carewemust

Thank you for the links!!! I'm reading now and trying to catch up...

Out of curiosity, have you heard or thought much about the Saudi prince Alwaleed connection? I was checking that out a little more in depth after finding a report from a Malaysian attorney/whistleblower type that claims he confessed to having multiple snipers flown in to do the dirty deed, and I have to admit I'm more than a little intrigued by it. At this point, it's little more than circumstantial. But I find it intriguing! Just wondered if you had any thoughts about that angle.



posted on Jan, 20 2018 @ 09:21 AM
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I didn't look, but I'm confident this has been posted here somewhere here. I'm sure you probably saw yesterday in the news the Tucker Carlson interview of Senator Scott Perry wherein he suggests he has seen "credible evidence" of an ISIS link from 'south of the border'. Interesting.

Also of note from the same interview, during some dialogue over the allegation with an attorney representing victims it was confirmed that to date there has been no federal involvement in the investigation. Consequently, the possible ISIS link has not been fully investigated. Interesting.

The plot thickens.



posted on Jan, 20 2018 @ 09:45 AM
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a reply to: Flyingclaydisk
Would they tell us if they were actively investigating?

I am sorry, that was a ridiculous question. A more realistic question would be, "when do they ever tell us the truth about anything?"

Your post reminds me of a movie I saw, can't remember the name, where a government was manipulating and controlling the actions of a terrorist group to do all of its dirty work. Sometimes truth is greater than fiction, and lot harder to believe.



edit on 20-1-2018 by NightSkyeB4Dawn because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 20 2018 @ 10:17 AM
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a reply to: NightSkyeB4Dawn

Well, the reason I found this statement / acknowledgement strange was, I wonder how they confirmed it wasn't terrorism initially...if there was no comprehensive federal involvement?

OR...were the feds involved just long enough to clean up all the incriminating evidence and spirit a few actors away(?).




edit on 1/20/2018 by Flyingclaydisk because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 20 2018 @ 10:29 AM
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originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
Also of note from the same interview, during some dialogue over the allegation with an attorney representing victims it was confirmed that to date there has been no federal involvement in the investigation..


I didn't watch all of the LV Sheriff's press conference the other day, but I am pretty sure I heard him say something about the FBI investigating another person in connection with the shooting.

I'll see if I can dig that up.

ETA:

Here's a Newsweek story on that: THE FBI IS INVESTIGATING A NEW PERSON OF INTEREST IN THE LAS VEGAS SHOOTING
edit on 1/20/2018 by MotherMayEye because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 20 2018 @ 10:55 AM
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I'm still watching this case but I will venture to lay out my theory on what happened. First of all, the events in Saudi Arabia and the arrest of many Saudi royals is not a coincidence in my mind. The Four Seasons hotel occupying the top 5 floors of the Mandalay Bay and their co-ownership by Bill Gates and Bin Talal is not coincidental either. I think the Vegas shooting was an assassination attempt on either King or Prince Salman, however it was foiled due to doubles being sent out, one of whom was to attend the concert in an attempt to lure the killers out of the shadows and give Salman the right to bring the hammer down.

Many of the survivors talk about how they felt like the shooters were following them. Perhaps they were but trying to get to someone else. What about the helicopters? My suspicion is they were hired out by Bin Salman or the FBI to counter the shooters on the ground they knew would be there. Either the suspects or the intended victim ended up at the airport which is why there was the reports of shooters on the tarmac.

If that is indeed the scenario that happened you can see why our government needed a fall guy to take the blame. Paddock (if he was even real) is secondary, I don't believe he was the shooter but our government could hardly admit to allowing a known assassination attempt to go down which ended up killing dozens of American citizens.



posted on Jan, 20 2018 @ 06:17 PM
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Daily Mail has a lot of newly released police photos of Paddock's hotel room:

Link



posted on Jan, 20 2018 @ 06:20 PM
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originally posted by: MotherMayEye
Daily Mail has a lot of newly released police photos of Paddock's hotel room:

Link



The door photos are especially interesting!



posted on Jan, 20 2018 @ 06:45 PM
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a reply to: MotherMayEye

I'm still not buying Lombardo and the FBI's story, the scene looks way too laid out. I think some sicko over did themselves to push an agenda, using Paddock as the fall guy taking the blame.


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