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About the Vegas Killer... newest info

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posted on Oct, 26 2017 @ 07:32 PM
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a reply to: Asktheanimals


Very frustrating because many of us saw the inconsistencies and lies and were (are) determined to not let "them" get away with another mass murder like they did 16 years ago.


It happened at the Orlando nightclub shooting as well. Multiple witnesses claimed to see more than one gunman inside. Multiple witnesses claimed that the shooter inside made a phone call and claimed there were snipers on the rooftops. Multiple witnesses claimed that there was a gunfight outside between the police and men dressed in black. Multiple people claimed that someone blocked the exit and wouldn't let them out.


Every day I despair a bit more of finding important evidence.


You and me both.




posted on Oct, 27 2017 @ 07:38 AM
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a reply to: Asktheanimals

Don't really have a comment one way or the other on your statement. I was just responding to your earlier statement (and question from firerescue).



posted on Oct, 27 2017 @ 10:07 AM
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originally posted by: JaeG14
a reply to: Asktheanimals

Not sure if this has been posted, but it's interesting (the beginning portion). The rest is cool too but I'm talking about the 3D rendering. Let's assume that audio of shots were used and/or blanks just for the sake of theorizing... it would then make sense to use suppressed/silenced weapons from other areas if you intend to make it seem like there is only one shooter on the 32nd floor. Not saying I believe this is what happened, but it's definitely possible.

youtu.be...


That's a good video worth watching though it jumps around quite a bit. To back up my earlier assertions about multiple aircraft operating behind Mandalay bay from 10:05 - 10:15 PT here's a longer fight radar video (once again transponder radar but guess what the registration number of the LVPD choppper is? N911WY.)





posted on Oct, 27 2017 @ 10:12 AM
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a reply to: Boadicea

Alibaba and Giles was said to be the location of a shooter, they could have easily moved from anywhere on the East side of the venue to there. Any gates on the East side and the First aid area all become possible shooter locations, moving to the apartments to the South or the Roman Catholic shrine to the Northeast.



posted on Nov, 1 2017 @ 09:50 AM
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My apologies for my absence the last few days... family stuff that absolutely takes precedence whether I want it or not


But I was trying to catch up last night in between passing out candy, and I found this intriguing:


A Las Vegas police officer accidentally fired his gun in Stephen Paddock’s suite the night of the mass shooting, the department’s sheriff said Monday, breaking more than two weeks of silence and confirming for the first time that an officer fired his weapon during the Oct. 1 incident. Sheriff Joe Lombardo said the gun went off after the officers made entry to the room, but the rounds were not fired in the room where Paddock was found dead.


Huh??? I've been trying to dissect this, and no matter how I look at it, it just doesn't make sense with what we've been told and/or led to believe. If the pics can be taken at face value, then "Paddock" was found dead in the main suite... so did the officer fire the shot in the adjoining rooms? But the police audio records what sounds like a gunshot as the SWAT team breached the main suite... so was that actually a gunshot or something else? And if it wasn't a gunshot, what was it? And when did the officer "accidentally" fire a shot? And where???

Or did SWAT actually breach the door of the adjoining rooms and not the main suite as it's been believed? Or was someone (cough! cough! security guard! cough! cough!) in the adjoining rooms and tried to leave by that door as SWAT was breaching the other door? Could someone (cough! cough!) have been shot trying to leave by the door to the adjoining rooms? Could the sheriff possibly mean the officer shot into the suite as opposed to shooting while inside the suite?

I don't know... just trying to figure something out and failing miserably!!!

ETA: Source
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ETA2: Just found the ATS thread here.
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posted on Nov, 3 2017 @ 05:15 PM
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a reply to: Boadicea

just saw this article....www.dailymail.co.uk...

the sheriff in vegas say stephen Paddock lost a lot of wealth to gambling and buying properties thinks problems with money is the threason he went over the edge and did this shooting.......what do you think??

just saw another article (daily news) they are going to interview the shooters girlfriend again
edit on 3-11-2017 by research100 because: added sentence



posted on Nov, 3 2017 @ 05:37 PM
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a reply to: research100

Those stories are just more kitten brushing to make the public believe the "official story".




posted on Nov, 5 2017 @ 11:25 AM
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I posted this comment in one of the newer Vegas threads:

I just tried to upload/post it but just can't seem to get it done from my phone; Sheriff Lombardo, on his Twitter, posted a picture of "beautiful artwork" given to the LVMPD regarding the Vegas shooting. It's odd- at the bottom there is an image of blood dripping from the New York City skyline. Isn't that weird?? If someone can post it here I would appreciate it.



posted on Nov, 5 2017 @ 12:09 PM
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a reply to: Boadicea

I was listening to the scanner audio last night and police did have to breach a 2nd room. This is generally not known for some reason. What that has to do with discharging a weapon is anyone's guess.



posted on Nov, 5 2017 @ 12:18 PM
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originally posted by: Asktheanimals
a reply to: Boadicea

I was listening to the scanner audio last night and police did have to breach a 2nd room. This is generally not known for some reason. What that has to do with discharging a weapon is anyone's guess.


Do you mean the second bedroom in the suite or another room entirely...or is that even clear?

And by 'breach,' does that mean the same kind of 'explosive' had to be used on the door to the second room?



posted on Nov, 5 2017 @ 01:45 PM
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originally posted by: research100
a reply to: LadyGreenEyes

this is his only tv appearance......that other one he skipped out just before he was supposed to have a press conference


Yeah, and on a show that cannot be trusted. Very suspicious!!

Every thing about him is suspicious; thought so since the beginning, before we had any reason to wonder. Just felt something was off about his part in things.



posted on Nov, 5 2017 @ 01:55 PM
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originally posted by: MotherMayEye


Do you mean the second bedroom in the suite or another room entirely...or is that even clear?

And by 'breach,' does that mean the same kind of 'explosive' had to be used on the door to the second room?


1) - Not clear
2) - Affirmative, 2nd door was breached.
3) - Room adjacent I presume.



posted on Nov, 5 2017 @ 02:24 PM
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I stumbled across a part 2 for the chopper at the Harley Davidson dealership



Seems to show someone removing a silencer from a rifle. Note the twisting action, silencers are threaded and are screwed on and off a barrel. This means these men were disembarking in all likelihood instead of loading on the chopper. Who they were, what time it was and what their mission may have been all remain open to speculation.

Here's the other part which may not be in order:

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posted on Nov, 10 2017 @ 08:39 AM
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My apologies again to all for going AWOL. Believe me, I would have given anything to be here rather than what I have had to do instead. ANYTHING!!! But that's not how it works sometimes. So it is what it is and I'll try to refocus my attention here again.



posted on Nov, 10 2017 @ 10:12 AM
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originally posted by: research100
a reply to: Boadicea

just saw this article....www.dailymail.co.uk...

the sheriff in vegas say stephen Paddock lost a lot of wealth to gambling and buying properties thinks problems with money is the threason he went over the edge and did this shooting.......what do you think??


Never say never, but that just doesn't ring true to me. For one thing, I haven't seen reports of properties in foreclosure, bankruptcy filings, cars being repoed, or any other indication that he was suffering financially. It could be, but we haven't seen it. And we know he had at least 100 grand to send his girlfriend abroad. He wasn't destitute. Nor does it jive with his reputed brilliant mind, which would operate based on logic and numbers, not emotion. He seems to have had a system, based on calculated averages and risks and rewards, and if that system that had worked for him previously was no longer working, I would assume that he would be looking to change his practices in tune with any changes made by casinos... and/or for where and how the casinos were cheating. It would have been an objective science... or perhaps "art" rather than science. But it would not have been personal. And generally speaking, attacks with guns are personal attacks on known individuals, as opposed to bombs which are usually used against an institution/government as opposed to known persons.


just saw another article (daily news) they are going to interview the shooters girlfriend again


At this point, that may just be the story to make us think they're doing something practical. We still haven't seen any transcripts or heard any recordings from her previous interviews with the FBI.



posted on Nov, 10 2017 @ 10:21 AM
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originally posted by: Asktheanimals
a reply to: Boadicea

I was listening to the scanner audio last night and police did have to breach a 2nd room. This is generally not known for some reason. What that has to do with discharging a weapon is anyone's guess.


So were they trying to hide that shot for some reason? It sure seems so, but I don't know why. I don't think anyone would fault the officer for taking a shot upon entering the room of someone spraying a crowd of innocent concert goers. Even if it went against protocol.

Or were they trying to hide something about the adjoining room... like maybe it wasn't rented out with the suite? Or maybe it wasn't the adjoining rooms but another room?

I don't know. But I do know the facts don't add up as we know them.



posted on Nov, 10 2017 @ 10:29 AM
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originally posted by: research100
a reply to: Boadicea

just saw this article....www.dailymail.co.uk...

the sheriff in vegas say stephen Paddock lost a lot of wealth to gambling and buying properties thinks problems with money is the threason he went over the edge and did this shooting.......what do you think??

just saw another article (daily news) they are going to interview the shooters girlfriend again


Doesn't sound like enough motive, he wires 100K to his girlfriend, hardly destitute.

Seems he had no close contacts with anyone other than his girlfriend. Obviously the authorities can't connect the dots or are intentionally erasing the lines to connect the dots. They don't even have a motive yet. Why bring 20 guns to do a mass shooting, when you are solo and only going to use a few at most? Things don't make sense.



posted on Nov, 10 2017 @ 11:07 AM
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Doesn't sound like enough motive, he wires 100K to his girlfriend, hardly destitute.


That's how I'm thinking as well.


Seems he had no close contacts with anyone other than his girlfriend.


That's very odd in itself too. He almost seems anti-social... but then we hear from his friend/property manager that he was very kind and generous and sensitive to his tenants hardships and needs. It just doesn't seem to jive.


Obviously the authorities can't connect the dots or are intentionally erasing the lines to connect the dots.


That's an excellent way to say it -- thank you!

They are, perhaps, also throwing in lines and dots to send us all on wild goose chases...



posted on Nov, 10 2017 @ 02:35 PM
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Here are 2 videos I haven't seen before. Not sure if they've been posted in the large threads or not as there's just sooo much to plough through

Three Shooters


And this may have been posted by Askthe animals if so sorry
The Dark Helicopter


Think it should also be mentioned in this thread now about the Saudi Prince Alwaleed connection to Mandalay Bay his arrest and this interview which has been posted elsewhere in other threads

"Last night, I was on radio discussing the Las Vegas shooting and the connection to what is happening in Saudi Arabia. They are connected. I'll start at the beginning. There was a King Fasal who had a son, Prince Alwaleed, bin Talal. King Fasal took ill and named his brother Salman as king in his place. King Salman has named his son an heir to the throne, instead of his brother's son Prince Al Waleed. Al Waleed is a Wahabbi. Salman is Suni. Wahabbi is extreme Islam. Salman wanted a more modern, non extreme Islam for Saudi.That's why he named his own son as heir.

In Las Vegas, Prince Al Waleed owned the upper floors of the Mandalyn Bay resort, including the 32nd floor.that was one of the points of shooting at the strip. I say one of the places, because the witnesses were all correct. There were other locations too. The Mandalyn Bay has a heli pad on the roof. That is important, because that was the escape route after the carnage. Paddock was a pilot. He was also a gun runner between the Philippines and the US. He was running guns for Prince Al Waleed. He didn't win at the casino. Those millions came from smuggling. On the night of the attack, I found out that King Salman was in Las Vegas. (I didn't know that part until after the show and I received a missing piece of info. Salman was at the Tropicana. The FBI knew Paddock was running guns. They were tipped off. They didn't know there was going to be an assassination attempt on Salman by Al Waleed just down the strip. Paddock brought the guns as he usually did. Instead of getting paid this time, he was killed. He was victim one. The guns were used to shoot at the country music venue. That was to create chaos and distract from the real target over at the Tropicana. Al Waleed's assassins shot from Mandalay bay, but they also were at the Tropicana trying to kill Salman. That explains why there were shooters on the ground as well as in the air.

Remember the vids of the helicopter fly over. I asked why a helicopter would be there when there was a shooter high up. It wasn't news, or cops. It was the assassins who ran up the stairs to the roof from the 32nd floor. Remember they sealed the door to the stairwell? Paddock had access to the service elevator, because the boss said he could use the elevator. Nobody questioned him. Meanwhile the assassination attempt on Salman failed. Now we are seeing the result of the failed attempt. It was not only an assassination attempt and a terror attack, but an attempted coup in Saudi. This is why everyone shut up in Las Vegas.

The response is still ongoing. You are watching it play out. As I said, I spoke on air about this. I will post links in comments to prove my story. Las Vegas was definitely a terror attack. Paddock was the gun runner. Al Waleed, the owner of the suite was who is behind all of it. All the witnesses citing multiple shooters all told the truth. There were shootouts along the strip and in Mandalay Bay & Tropicana hotels. The reason nobody is talking is it's not over yet."
- Jo Anne Moretti



posted on Nov, 10 2017 @ 02:47 PM
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a reply to: PhyllidaDavenport

Thank you! I've been reading a little about the prince and the Saudi housecleaning and it's all quite intriguing -- especially this that you've added. I want to read it again and think on it a bit before commenting more. It just gets curiouser and curiouser...



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