Was the Vegas shooting the first part of a larger plan that failed? Shooter targeted fuel tanks

a reply to: Aeshma


I don't think a real leak would be needed, only the possibility of a leak to stop operations. (again I may be wrong here)

originally posted by: RadioRobert
Did he get his hands on API rounds and think that would work? I have trouble believing he thought this was plausible.

A make shift AP round isn't all that hard to make, but AP rounds are also not too hard to get either if you know where to go (just saying)

a reply to: RadioRobert

At the distance with a 5.56 even a green tip would probably have trouble with the fuel tanks.

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That was embarassing.

a reply to: matafuchs

I think you should stop using the word "he" and instead use the word "they".

a reply to: MysticPearl

Do you believe he shooter had multiple personalities?

a reply to: Guyfriday

Look..
The theory is a very good one. So I have to give that credit. And JANET is right there. This paddock comes off very smart and yet sooo lacking practical sense at the same time.

If that fertilizer mixture he made was somehow attached to those tanks.... it may have produced a long enough effect for me to put my Thumb and I between the carnage about to happen.. but even that should take a long enough time to put out.

a reply to: Aeshma

There was some 7.62 brass scattered about, and my experience with the chinese api rounds was that they were more lively, but I'm still struggling with this. Even igniting avgas or JP-7 pouring from a hole in a tank doesn't ensure a big boom. He's a pilot, right? He has to know this.

a reply to: Aeshma

Appropriate..😆

originally posted by: RainyState
What if there was a bigger plan and the other person/people chickened out?

A) He had more than enough firepower for a couple more shooters

B) he had two vehicles, one with fertilizer and a possible getaway car?

C) he didn't have all of the material to create a bomb. Plus, if you stop by the local hardware store and buy fertilizer and fuel cans, you're probably going to raise some suspicion. Maybe the accomplice(s) were to supply the fuel and whatever else needed to create a bomb, and place the car closer to the tanks

I can see that.

He meant to escape, but then they would know to look for him specifically. How we he expecting to get out without some serious help? Maybe an illgal flight into mexico followed by a name change new passport and off to the phillipines?

whats the motive?? owed somebody a favor so bad he couldnt refuse?

I can't tell.

originally posted by: Aeshma
a reply to: MysticPearl

Do you believe he shooter had multiple personalities?

Do you think multiple shooters have one personality?

a reply to: Guyfriday

(I'm not going to talk about the new info of a possible Obama connection only because without any checkable sources it's just rumor as of this writing)

Dude I'm trying to connect Hillary through it by way of University of Buffalo Magnetothermal deep brain stimulation of motor function, so I don't think its too far out there right now

Maybe all the gear and other equipment in his room actually had magnets in them to maintain control over his motor functions?? Working my way towards its own thread. I figure if I threw it out there enough someone else may take a crack at it. exploring actual proven real world science and legislation to pull off these conspiracies is where we should really be digging at if we going full on Tin-Foil.

And this case requires more foil than seems to be in production at this time.

a reply to: Bigburgh
Even if he's trying some bastardized ANFO, he's still missing the catalyst. This whole thing sounds contrived.

a reply to: worldstarcountry

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I think (if true) then it would be much simpler then that (if true)

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This fuel tank idea that "matafuchs" brought to the table could have some serious merit at this time.

a reply to: RadioRobert
Sometimes terrorists wear fake suicide vests to scare people into thinking that they may go "BANG". This could be something along those lines, or it could be something else.

originally posted by: Guyfriday
a reply to: Bigburgh


But did any J-Flights get delayed? That's the real question here.

Hmmm...
I can't answer that. You got me there.... I actually watch those flights go to TTR and A51 often. As i watch what is going on in Palmdale.

I think it's time to put up the Zaphod Signal.

Didn't he also have tannerite?

That explodes when shot.

Not sure if that could have been used as an ignition source.

a reply to: RadioRobert

He would need to place it on a jp5 tank..
No way that would go un-noticed.. even then it would need to burn for a really long time..
You can't hide that.

a reply to: Bigburgh
a reply to: Guyfriday

So, lets assume in this window of time right here that there was a plan for interrupting flights. Could it be laid as the base for a possible disgruntled worker profile iffin it be the case?? Sure would be the easy button to brush off any further investigating of this bizarre behavior.

Did he have explosive rounds at all? He had 100k of arsenal so maybe he did.