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"END CIV: Resist or Die". A critique.

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posted on Oct, 4 2017 @ 07:58 PM
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Two nights ago I thought: "Let's watch documentaries, before a good sleep". And I saw what I'd call an hour and half long justification of all kinds of extreme leftist violence.

All moderates in history, or peaceful resistance movements like Gandhi, or Civil Rights in the US were described as sell-outs, co-opted or inefficient, by people (I wonder who paid them?), mostly with one-liners and no facts. I kept thinking, who is putting out this propaganda that violence (I guess even terrorism) is the answer? And I can watch this on global satellite television? I wouldn't be able to watch this on television if was about securing borders for Europe, for example.

Whenever they said something sympathetic they showed leftist militias like FARC or the Antifa, as if historic socialism or Columbian coke labs ever did anything for the environment. In fact, recalling the former GDR, socialism was an environmental catastrophe. Or all indigenous people are natural environmentalists (some are are; others sell their own land and go fishing with dynamite, or rip turtles out of the ocean with four-wheel driven cars). Not really the point except that most people like their cars, running water, supermarkets, Internet and electricity. How to provide that outside tearing down the current system was never really discussed. We'll live on violence in the new world, apparently.

I kept thinking, this is obviously fodder for young people who have not yet developed critical thinking skills. Youngsters who will ruin their lives if they believe this drivel. Do not take the bait. It's bull#. And I kept wondering: who funds this stuff?

But it suddenly occurred to me why the radical left is so violent nowadays. It is deliberately put in their minds. Other solutions are totally lacking - I wonder where they expect to get their fuel or food? None of them look like farmers, or people who exactly cycle across the globe to the latest riot.

Here the "documentary":


Not bad as propaganda, but as a documentary, the worst piece of cobbled together misery since the AIDS denialist: "The House of Numbers".

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posted on Oct, 4 2017 @ 08:21 PM
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And make no mistake, once you follow this unclear message of any violence (which could include terrorism, to any personal "direct action"), it will justify a real crackdown by the system.

That is the real conspiracy.

And the brightest young minds who could have made a real and lasting difference will spend the rest of their lives in prison, staring at a cement wall.

This stuff is the real conspiracy.
Do not drink the Kool-Aid.

If it really was so radical, would it be on global television?
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posted on Oct, 4 2017 @ 08:28 PM
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10 years ago in this hippy town (we have rainbow flags on lightposts lol) it was all through learning to work together and recycle and co-op farming and whatever we can make the world better..

now I hear a lot of emotional outbursts and we need to punch nazis!!

it would be incomprehensible for me except I've noticed the propaganda so what can I say..


People have lost the plot.

starts around the one minute mark. I like the simplicity with which john lays out violence and non-vilolence in relation to peace and becoming the establishment.. "Theyve been fighting violence for thousands of years. They know how to fight it, the only thing they don't understand is non-violence."


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posted on Oct, 4 2017 @ 08:36 PM
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I agree completely.

Now many will call me a shill, and I'm just a slave of the system trying to pooh-pooh their wonderfully inaccurate and disturbing documentary.

But how would I feel if I had a kid, and he took to this ideology?
I don't think I'd sleep at night, just as little if he or she was exposed to real neo-Nazi ideology.
This is not living in a tipi and growing your own veggies.
This is propagating violence, or the planet will explode.
This is actually mind-controlling, nihilistic cult stuff.
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posted on Oct, 4 2017 @ 08:39 PM
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And the globalists are pumping it.

Obviously not an "enemy source" of theirs.
I didn't find this first on YouTube, or trailing obscure social media sites.

It was broadcast on television!



posted on Oct, 4 2017 @ 08:48 PM
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Just a step away from ISIS.

I'm surprised they didn't show them.

But now I understand the affinity the radical left and ISIS have for each other.



posted on Oct, 4 2017 @ 08:52 PM
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But say what you like, this kind of stuff can ruin your life forever.

Once you hurt somebody (and you're not a complete sociopath) your life will never be the same.

The nightmares will keep coming back to haunt you until the day you die.

Just like the official armies you so profess to hate.

And how ironic, the moderate left is just letting it slide.
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posted on Oct, 4 2017 @ 09:13 PM
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No petitions to get this off the airwaves, or at least pre or post-broadcast discussions.
No attempt even at perspective or situating it in a wider debate.

Just your kids' future.

No attempt even to situate it as "controversial".
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posted on Oct, 4 2017 @ 09:19 PM
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I'm still shocked - whoops, there it is.
Deal with it.



posted on Oct, 4 2017 @ 09:36 PM
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The way I see it: getting people to commit violence at the weakest, most impressionable part of their life.

And then, if they don't blow themselves away in the act, you can lock them away for life.

Pity, many of them would have led a true struggle with better guidance.

Now that's how you really rid the planet of opposition.
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posted on Oct, 4 2017 @ 09:55 PM
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Maybe the time will come when we can use Antifa....as cannon fodder of course.



posted on Oct, 4 2017 @ 10:00 PM
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And it's not necessarily just youngsters.

Any impressionable person could see this and decide violence is the answer.

"Direct action" to free Mother Nature from humanity could be anything.

And that is the problem.

Violent action has no limitations.

Anybody can interpret that as they wish.
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posted on Oct, 4 2017 @ 10:17 PM
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Yeah the world will remember this turkey in a time of people going ape#. And it will be hung around the necks of the left like a still-fluttering albatross.



posted on Oct, 4 2017 @ 10:27 PM
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A most irresponsible attempt at a "documentary" at best.

When you just justify violence without clear limitations, anyone could be targeted or become collateral damage.



posted on Oct, 4 2017 @ 10:35 PM
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originally posted by: halfoldman
And it's not necessarily just youngsters.

Any impressionable person could see this and decide violence is the answer.

"Direct action" to free Mother Nature from humanity could be anything.


Just add in the feeling of powerlessness!
"powerful entities control the world im backed into a corner."
plus a little desperation.
"we have to act NOW we're running out of time."
and the enemy is evil
"by any means necesary the end justifies the means!"


Bam you now have everything you need to make action besides Direction and Means..

Those are supplied or will be supplied in separate installments probably most often through social media as to be covered and cut out as a "grass roots movement."

and.. ACTION!



... or hold your damn horses, the world's not ending tomorrow. get a grip slow down, and lets use our words to figure out what it all is we want out of this relationship of people.. Lets say why we are hurt or what we want changed. Go get elected to congress or use your money to fund "fair life farming" or use your money on people who support the health of people in general.. F it plant a garden and see what food really tastes like..

This end of the world thing.. This desperation has been ongoing since 9/11 at least here in the US.. Like post tramatic stress.. Waiting for the next news item to be pissed about.. Trump comes in right on que too.. Hes been more used than any president Ive seen before. A character to place on top of half a country.. Another dehumanizing tactic.. The cartoon. Its used to great effect on the North Koreans. well its being used on you guys about the North Koreans..

Man I trained around psyops guys..
"winning hearts and minds"

in summary:

Don't lose your #,
now is not the time for a hissy fit.



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posted on Oct, 4 2017 @ 11:09 PM
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So we have this "documentary" that purports to be leftist and eco-friendly, and it encourages "direct action" without limitations, which could be anything from hitting somebody with a bicycle-lock to a major Sarin gas attack in a subway.
And nobody has been arrested or questioned?
It's widely available and even broadcast.
A bit peculiar that.



posted on Oct, 5 2017 @ 08:06 AM
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This is actually mind-controlling, nihilistic cult stuff.


Very true. And its creepy in the extreme. Interesting how the MSM ups the hype to fan the flames.



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