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originally posted by: bloodymarvelous
How hard would it be for an ancient culture to get access to cow intestines?
originally posted by: 11andrew34
King Salomon's flying machine is described in the Bible.
originally posted by: Hanslune
Wonderful idea but what made the Zeppelins, semi-dirigibles and blimps usable were internal combustion engines. As noted you'd need a fairly sophisticated engineering capacity to build anything like an airship. Just review what the European had to go thru in the 18-19th century to get the few they had.
The other main problem with airships is wind. They are very susceptible to it and need massive shelters to protect them. Look up what they had to build to protect the Hindenburg and how all the latest helium lifted US navy airships were destroyed by the wind.
originally posted by: bloodymarvelous
originally posted by: Hanslune
Wonderful idea but what made the Zeppelins, semi-dirigibles and blimps usable were internal combustion engines. As noted you'd need a fairly sophisticated engineering capacity to build anything like an airship. Just review what the European had to go thru in the 18-19th century to get the few they had.
If we're talking about using them to lift big stones, or moving freight, then they don't need engines, because people (or draft animals) on the ground could be pulling them around with ropes.
Just like what people would do if they wanted to pull a boat full of cargo upstream.
But if you want to travel freely in one, that is a solid concern. Hard to control where you go without a propeller.
The other main problem with airships is wind. They are very susceptible to it and need massive shelters to protect them. Look up what they had to build to protect the Hindenburg and how all the latest helium lifted US navy airships were destroyed by the wind.
It seems that Hot Air is starting to win the Hydrogen/Hot Air contest. They can be stored away from the wind better.
A dirigible might have a chance if the 1000 or so bladders that are being held together by the outer wall were taken out and stored individually, like in a cave or something. And then brought out and assembled when the dirigible is to be used.
The Great Pyramid of Ghiza site has a network of underground caves nearby to it.
originally posted by: bloodymarvelous
If we're talking about using them to lift big stones, or moving freight, then they don't need engines, because people (or draft animals) on the ground could be pulling them around with ropes.
originally posted by: Byrd
originally posted by: bloodymarvelous
If we're talking about using them to lift big stones, or moving freight, then they don't need engines, because people (or draft animals) on the ground could be pulling them around with ropes.
If you've ever watched parade balloons, you know how chancy that is. Then there's the problem of shouting the instructions to everyone.
If they had balloon technology, why didn't they use it to transport things and improve their lives... and why aren't there any depictions or traditions of this? Other traditions were preserved and technology (weaving patterns, pottery) were preserved.
originally posted by: punkinworks10
a reply to: bloodymarvelous
It takes a fully modern worldwide society to be able to manufacture a zepplin.
Why can we find a campsite used once in the wilderness 15,000 years ago, yet not one trace of the worldwide society required to make a zepplin.
Dont forget germany had worldwide possesions and hydroelectric system that was the first to generate 3 phase AC, which is a requirement for a true modern world, thank you nicola telsa.
This conversation would not be possible without 3p power.
originally posted by: bloodymarvelous
Hydrogen production doesn't require three phase power. It's one of the simplest electro-chemical reactions out there.