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The Second Amendment is Not The Problem, Violent Groups Like Antifa, BLM etc Are the Problem.

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posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 11:09 PM
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originally posted by: ElectricUniverse
a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1

RIIIIIGHT...as if BLM and Antifa haven't been caught on video calling for violence, and murder...


Soooo...in your headline and YouTube videos to back up your headline,
Black people=bad
Second amendment=good so you can shoot bad people.
So to work out your math
Shoot=black people
Or did I miss something?




posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 11:13 PM
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originally posted by: Lucidparadox
a reply to: ElectricUniverse

You do realize that in the other thread the guy was a confirmed Trump supporter right?

His ex neighbor (who is also a trump.supprter) who was an ex marine called in to a radio show. He said that he didnt think this guy did it and that he thinks he was set up. He sis confirm he was a trump supporter, but that he wasnt radical or anything. He said the guy was a really good dude who he would never think would do this.


You got a link for that interview?



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 11:18 PM
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Hillary at large got them beat as the problem.



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 11:19 PM
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a reply to: theantediluvian

Oh, and btw... Yes, Antifa deleted their post but it was saved in an archive.

web.archive.org...://www.facebook.com/antifamelb/

Just copy and paste entire url.


edit on 3-10-2017 by ElectricUniverse because: correct link.



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 11:21 PM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Your link does not work.

And was it made by a real ANTIFA group or a troll account like the ROGUE POTUS Staff or ALT State Department?

ETA: The page is for "Melbourne" yet everything is in Finnish. But it's totally real guys.
edit on 10/3/2017 by MonkeyFishFrog because: (no reason given)


ETA 2: Weird it stopped being Finnish when I just looked it up regularly. Anyone else notice this? Or did my browser just get taken over by Troll Trace?
edit on 10/3/2017 by MonkeyFishFrog because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 11:26 PM
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a reply to: MonkeyFishFrog

i wrote copy and paste entire link... It is simple... quote my post, then copy the url for the archive and paste.

It can't be embedded correctly in ATS and using url code doesn't help either.



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 11:26 PM
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originally posted by: theantediluvian
a reply to: the owlbear


BTW, the fact that he was Antifa doesn't mean he could not have been also an ISIS sympathizer or to have some link with ISIS. Antifa is a far left-wing group. Muslim radicals are far-leftwing. Muslims in general tend to be left-wing all over the globe.


That's 100% wrong. Why do you believe that? ISIS is trying to establish a caliphate which is a theocracy. There's nothing at all left-wing about a theocracy, quite the opposite — it's super far to the right.

Just like fundamentalist Christians or orthodox Jews, fundamentalist Muslims are ultraconservative traditionalists.

I'm not picking on you, I'm legitimately trying to understand how one could come to believe something that is pretty much the opposite of reality.


Dude, didn't say that.
My comment started with how the media said Tom Petty was dead and he wasn't.
The rest was all whoever wrote that stuff before me.

It's edited now.

edit on 3-10-2017 by the owlbear because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 11:26 PM
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originally posted by: RazorV66

originally posted by: Lucidparadox
a reply to: ElectricUniverse

You do realize that in the other thread the guy was a confirmed Trump supporter right?

His ex neighbor (who is also a trump.supprter) who was an ex marine called in to a radio show. He said that he didnt think this guy did it and that he thinks he was set up. He sis confirm he was a trump supporter, but that he wasnt radical or anything. He said the guy was a really good dude who he would never think would do this.


You got a link for that interview?


youtu.be...

There it is

A conservative radio station too

The caller who was his neighbor said he doesn't believe Steven did it, also mentioned Steven was a Trump supporter.



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 11:26 PM
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a reply to: MonkeyFishFrog

Totally not a fake account. It said the shooter was part of Antifa, that's all I need to know that it's legit.



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 11:27 PM
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originally posted by: MonkeyFishFrog

ETA: The page is for "Melbourne" yet everything is in Finnish. But it's totally real guys.


Oh, so you didn't know that people can choose to view Facebook in their language?

www.facebook.com...



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 11:28 PM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse

I'm not Finnish



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 11:29 PM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse

I tried it before you edited so don't be looking at me like I'm the idiot.



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 11:31 PM
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originally posted by: Lucidparadox

originally posted by: RazorV66

originally posted by: Lucidparadox
a reply to: ElectricUniverse

You do realize that in the other thread the guy was a confirmed Trump supporter right?

His ex neighbor (who is also a trump.supprter) who was an ex marine called in to a radio show. He said that he didnt think this guy did it and that he thinks he was set up. He sis confirm he was a trump supporter, but that he wasnt radical or anything. He said the guy was a really good dude who he would never think would do this.


You got a link for that interview?


youtu.be...

There it is

A conservative radio station too

The caller who was his neighbor said he doesn't believe Steven did it, also mentioned Steven was a Trump supporter.


Thanks.
Sorry...I didn't mean to sound like I was insinuating you were lying, if you took it that way.
I just haven't seen that story yet, I was interested in listening to it.
edit on 3-10-2017 by RazorV66 because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 11:34 PM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Their page shares a post from Boston Antifa calling them their "comrades" even though Boston Antifa's Twitter was banned for being a fake account.

That tells me all I need to know about their Facebook page. Preying on the gullible, shame on them.
edit on 10/3/2017 by 3NL1GHT3N3D1 because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 11:36 PM
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a reply to: Gothmog

Still obviously a psycho. You want an answer? Whatever we get fed, it won't be logical, because I hope we're all sane.

Plenty of people are able to live a facade. But the house of cards falls inevitably.

I'm not saying I'm right, or anyone for that matter. Just that none of us know at this point. So why start pointing fingers at citizens who didn't shoot 600 people.



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 11:38 PM
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a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1

No shortage of gullible around here, rather depressing the amount of people politicising this horrifying tragedy.
Some people have no shame.



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 11:45 PM
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originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: Gothmog

Still obviously a psycho. You want an answer? Whatever we get fed, it won't be logical, because I hope we're all sane.

Plenty of people are able to live a facade. But the house of cards falls inevitably.

I'm not saying I'm right, or anyone for that matter. Just that none of us know at this point. So why start pointing fingers at citizens who didn't shoot 600 people.

Who was blaming citizens ?
I wasnt , and I am one. And proud to be one.



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 11:56 PM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Oh brother. Most of those videos are from utter nobodies. The one with the co-founder of Yusra Khogali is *somewhat* relevant though in that instance, she's clearly being hyperbolic, hence the "cuss/kill." You do get that cussing and killing are far removed from one another right?

If you weren't a YouTube addict, you'd realize that she's said far worse stuff than that. Like that white people are subhuman and genetic defects. Part of that might also have to do with the fact that nobody outside of Canada and probably Toronto had even heard of her until she started getting called out for her ridiculously racist statements.

She's just not that influential in the US or probably even in Canada. She has a whopping 1,500 followers on Twitter.

The rest of them, are *complete* nobodies.

The woman in Seattle is such an unknown person that in three news articles about it, not one of them named her. They claimed she was "BLM associated" because she had a jacket that anyone can get/make that says "Black Lives Matter."

The next video is a college debate. Seriously?

Next video. "Eye Empress Sehkmet?" Utter nobody whose name only got out because she got herself arrested saying dumb # on YouTube. What's her exact involvement with BLM again?

Brian Ogle isn't dead btw. That title is wrong. Again, as far as I what I read, the 4 people arrested for his beating weren't activists and didn't have any actual involvement with BLM. Not even sure how BLM is involved except that his mom said he was beaten over "pro-Cop remarks" or something. Are you prepared to argue otherwise? Have you followed the case?

This Carlos Anthony Hollins kid. He's an activist? What's his connection to BLM? Oh, he's not and there isn't one? He's just some random idiot on social media who threatened a neighboring town and included #blacklivesmatter as a hashtag? Super.

I can easily find you a bunch of videos of idiots in Trump gear saying racist things, promoting violence and making threats. Does that mean that Trump supporters are a threat to America (beyond the polling booth that is)? Expand that to Republicans and I can give you examples of Republican leaders, politicians, saying things every bit as bad as that Yusra Khogali tweet and worse. How about some right-wing cops doing it? How about some teachers?

You know why I don't do that? Why I don't lower myself to these pathetic displays of "WAAAAH the other guys are so much worse!" crap with YouTube videos of randoms? Because it's irrational. There are millions of people constantly saying dumb things online and in public. Cherry picking a few of them, particularly random nobodies, doesn't say a damn thing about the whole.

If that were the case, you'd have to also accept that you're all sorts of really repugnant things that I don't think you'd feel were all that justified.

Oh and as for Assata Shakur, a lot of people view her as a victim who was framed, railroaded, etc. Why don't you read the Wikipedia entry you linked. You'll notice some interesting things that explain why some people feel that way.

That's important don't you think? The distinction between people holding somebody in esteem because they believe she's a cop killer versus believing she's innocent of the crime?

Okay, well that was fun.



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 11:58 PM
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originally posted by: ElectricUniverse
a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1

RIIIIIGHT...as if BLM and Antifa haven't been caught on video calling for violence, and murder...


So you think some millionaire high-roller gambling dude was incited to violence by Antifa?


How is this crap even related?



posted on Oct, 3 2017 @ 11:59 PM
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a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1

Oooh, you mean as "fake" as the several times that Antifa have called for violence against Trump supporters or people who lean to the right in politics?...



Here is a police officer talking about Antifa calling for the start of a "Civil War".



Does anybody remember the post by Antifa saying "it will start on November 4th". (Or something like it)

Well, it seems this murderer couldn't wait that long.



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