Man Predicted/Warned About Vegas On 9-11?

a reply to: kurthall

If the guy predicted this and it happened in another state, I would agree with you. The fact that much of what he said happened makes me believe there's more to this. You scoff at three weeks later, I feel that's pretty darn close.

But, hey, whatever helps you sleep at night, man.

originally posted by: kurthall
a reply to: solongandgoodnight


Well, its October, so I am pretty sure this 9/11 post is just trash. Almost 3 weeks later, no vans, and a lone gunman. There is no way this person predicted this. This person more likely than not acted alone. Plus all of the "security" in the world would not have stopped this guy from breaking out his window overlooking the strip and shooting. You could have had 2Xs the security and it still would have happened.

I think it's possibly a coincidence, but what if it isn't?

a reply to: vinifalou

So.....this is all about mandating more security? So, the shooter didn't really die....he was whisked down the back stairs? Death is a high price to pay so the security companies can make more money. And they're expecting MORE people will show up in Vegas with heightened and intrusive security? Oh, yea, that's right because Americans like being molested wherever they travel.

This is all just ridiculous. One thing's for certain, I'll never set foot in Vegas.

originally posted by: vinifalou
Come on, ATS, you're better than that.

The focus should be on what he said next:

they want to make the american public think that places with extremely high security aren't safe. they are trying to create more regulations. you will see laws proposed within the next few years to put up more metal detectors and other security devices. media and politicians will be saying places with lots of police need even more police.

This is happening already. People are wondering what security measures can be taken to prevent that, and they're not wrong. The point is: how did he knew all these details?

If their plan is successful state of nevada will pass a law in the future making all casinos have mandatory metal detectors and backscatter machines. soon after a federal law will be passed to put these machines in universities, high schools, federal buildings.

This smells like preps for the New World Order to me.

EDIT: Just saw this:

Clinton talks gun legislation immediately following massacre

Mandatory metal detectors in highly populated areas? About time!

Safety is the #1 priority in this modern day. Metal detectors will only help prevent future events.

If the NWO is all about public health and safety, then I hope the NWO does happen.

originally posted by: smurfy
Well, one thing that still isn't gelling with me is (1) what sounded like like more than one gun firing, and (2) the two broken windows quite separate from one another. Yes, they could be explainable in some way, but still, how plausibly?

It sounded like two different guns, but im sure the accoustics may have played a part in that. As far as the second window being open I can think of three possible reasons. 1) He was in a suite, which are pretty big. 2) A second gunman who did the 23 skidoo before the cops figured out which room the shots were coming from. 3) ventilation. At the VERY least, he fired of 550 rounds, even with smokeless powder it would gank the room up pretty quick.

originally posted by: smurfy
Well, one thing that still isn't gelling with me is (1) what sounded like like more than one gun firing, and (2) the two broken windows quite separate from one another. Yes, they could be explainable in some way, but still, how plausibly?

It's how suites work. It's one room.

a reply to: solongandgoodnight

This looks like a leak to me. Wynn casinos put in the scanners referenced the day after the attack.

originally posted by: RomeByFire

originally posted by: smurfy
Well, one thing that still isn't gelling with me is (1) what sounded like like more than one gun firing, and (2) the two broken windows quite separate from one another. Yes, they could be explainable in some way, but still, how plausibly?

It's how suites work. It's one room.

Yes, I know that...hence my reply to the other poster but, think about it, what was the point, he was on high at 500 yards, and had all the view desired to carry out what he did, so what was the point of dashing from one window to the other just because..say, there were more preloaded guns whatever, at that other window, which had only a slightly different angle, while the facing window had all the view he needed at that distance and height....he likely knew he wasn't going anywhere ultimately?

a reply to: Kuroodo

We'll yeah, that's why the government needs to attack citizens, and trick them.
It's like democracy. We have to bomb nations in order to accept it, because it is so good.....

That's correct. I was wondering if I was the only person that caught that.

Also people in the bar saw security chasing someone with security vest on. They also said he was shot.
And what about the 4th floor flashes going off. Multiple shooters?

originally posted by: smurfy

originally posted by: RomeByFire

originally posted by: smurfy
Well, one thing that still isn't gelling with me is (1) what sounded like like more than one gun firing, and (2) the two broken windows quite separate from one another. Yes, they could be explainable in some way, but still, how plausibly?

It's how suites work. It's one room.

Yes, I know that...hence my reply to the other poster but, think about it, what was the point, he was on high at 500 yards, and had all the view desired to carry out what he did, so what was the point of dashing from one window the the other just because..say, there were more preloaded guns whatever, at that other window, which had only a slightly different angle, while the facing window had all the view he needed at that distance and height....he likely new knew he wasn't going anywhere ultimately?

a reply to: Boadicea

That this warning was in fact posted is apparently genuine

I don't usually buy into particular conspiracies concerning mass-shootings, but this one I do.

He mentions Sheldon Adelson who basically runs Las Vegas and has a net-worth of around 35 Billion $. Adelson also owns one of Israel's biggest news-media publication companies along with other business interest.

He also mentions Michael Chertoff who just happens to be the author of the US PATRIOT ACT and former United States Secretary For Homeland Security. He too, like Adelson, has deep ties and relationship to Israel despite both being American citizens.

From the OP link:

...Osi Systems and Chertoff [Group] are the main producers of these machines. Sometime around 2020 Chertoff and Osi will merge into a single company. After the merge the owners will sell off their stock and make billions in profit. Mr. Chertoff has been in contact with Sheldon Adelson. Mr. Adelson will become a huge sponsor of these machines and he will be the first to put them in his casinos when the law passes...

From the Chertoff Group website:

The Chertoff Group is a premier global advisory firm focused exclusively on the security and risk management sector.

Chertoff Group: www.chertoffgroup.com...

Here's the thing: I haven't found a direct link between Adelson and Osi Systems. He doesn't sit on the board of directors or show up as a major investor. The only thing that would connect him would be his investments/stocks owned in the company thru his subsidiary companies OR if he has huge investments tied to the Chertoff Group . He very well may own a huge share of OSI stock which Chertoff will help him cash in on IF the two companies do indeed merge in a few years. Adelson pays Chertoff back by having the technology become standard in all of Las Vegas and Asia (where Adelson's companies are centred) and throughout the world where public safety is paramount. Making both even more profit once again.

Corporate Profile

OSI Systems, Inc. (NASDAQ: OSIS) is a vertically integrated designer and manufacturer of specialized electronic systems and components for critical applications in homeland security, healthcare, defense and aerospace. At our core, we are a technology solutions company. Our research and development teams are focused on expanding and enhancing our product portfolios and delivering breakthrough technology solutions designed to keep pace with the rapidly changing marketplace. Our three operating divisions serve a large and growing worldwide customer base through an extensive distributor network and global operations in the Americas, the European Union, Middle East, and Asia Pacific.

Osi Systems: www.osi-systems.com...

If what "John" stated is indeed true: then Stephen Paddock is an unfortunate patsy and Osi Systems is a economic pawn.

...and the 59 dead and 500 + injured and their families are the victims for the sake of profit and control.

usually I'm not one to start conspiracy conversation unless it concerns aircraft but in this case I'll make an exception because I've done the research to verify that the posts were made regarding the attack on the 4chan board on September 10th as the screenshots that I just took from the archives show

a reply to: Involutionist

Wow! Thank you for taking the time to share your thoughts. This is ATS at its best. That's the kind of thing I don't even think of researching or following up... and I know I should. So I really appreciate it!

Here's the thing: I haven't found a direct link between Adelson and Osi Systems....

Again, I'm not sure how to follow up on that, but I guess I'll be watching for it now. And/or associations between Adelson and Chertoff.

Again, thank you.

Something else the media isn't talking about.

Las Vegas authorities on alert after finding 'credible threat' in ISIS propaganda video that calls for lone wolf attacks on The Strip

Also, ISIS isn't known to take credit for acts of terror that they are not at least loosely involved with. Take the Edmonton terror attack a few days ago committed by a Somali refugee with an ISIS flag. No responsibility was claimed.

originally posted by: smurfy
Well, one thing that still isn't gelling with me is (1) what sounded like like more than one gun firing, and (2) the two broken windows quite separate from one another. Yes, they could be explainable in some way, but still, how plausibly?

Definitely something suspicious going on. don't know if this has been pointed out but look at this. There apparently was another shooter

www.facebook.com...

Bravo! Incredible ATS community never fails! This happened with the Oregon shooter as well. He or someone posted warning 4chan members to stay away from colleges in the area the next day. I was reading it the day before myself. I sat up all night and the next day going down the rabbit hole reading 4chan posts trying to figure out who did it. The originally called out the wrong person. Not much ever came of that situation but it stuck with me. I absolutely think these are leaks. Bravo great post!!

originally posted by: Kuroodo

originally posted by: vinifalou
Come on, ATS, you're better than that.

The focus should be on what he said next:

they want to make the american public think that places with extremely high security aren't safe. they are trying to create more regulations. you will see laws proposed within the next few years to put up more metal detectors and other security devices. media and politicians will be saying places with lots of police need even more police.

This is happening already. People are wondering what security measures can be taken to prevent that, and they're not wrong. The point is: how did he knew all these details?

If their plan is successful state of nevada will pass a law in the future making all casinos have mandatory metal detectors and backscatter machines. soon after a federal law will be passed to put these machines in universities, high schools, federal buildings.

This smells like preps for the New World Order to me.

EDIT: Just saw this:

Clinton talks gun legislation immediately following massacre

Mandatory metal detectors in highly populated areas? About time!

Safety is the #1 priority in this modern day. Metal detectors will only help prevent future events.

If the NWO is all about public health and safety, then I hope the NWO does happen.

Really? So you would be okay with someone frisking your sisters and daughters every time they try to go buy groceries?

Coming to a Wal-Mart near you!

a reply to: hounddoghowlie



Sound like he was suggesting anything could happen after 911.

As if he didn’t know the exact date

originally posted by: Kuroodo

originally posted by: vinifalou
Come on, ATS, you're better than that.

The focus should be on what he said next:

they want to make the american public think that places with extremely high security aren't safe. they are trying to create more regulations. you will see laws proposed within the next few years to put up more metal detectors and other security devices. media and politicians will be saying places with lots of police need even more police.

This is happening already. People are wondering what security measures can be taken to prevent that, and they're not wrong. The point is: how did he knew all these details?

If their plan is successful state of nevada will pass a law in the future making all casinos have mandatory metal detectors and backscatter machines. soon after a federal law will be passed to put these machines in universities, high schools, federal buildings.

This smells like preps for the New World Order to me.

EDIT: Just saw this:

Clinton talks gun legislation immediately following massacre

Mandatory metal detectors in highly populated areas? About time!

Safety is the #1 priority in this modern day. Metal detectors will only help prevent future events.

If the NWO is all about public health and safety, then I hope the NWO does happen.

They can make guns out of plastic and bullets will find a way to be available for a bad guy...No place is safe from mean people who hate others for breathing air. Then they will move to gas like in Japan a while back, or bio weapons. Haters are gonna kill and their just isn't a way in the world to stop them unless we can read minds. We need to realize this and deal with that fact. Common sense would say an armed society is a polite society. If you see something, say something would work if people didn't want to believe their "friend or loved one" could be so cruel.

originally posted by: RomeByFire

originally posted by: smurfy
Well, one thing that still isn't gelling with me is (1) what sounded like like more than one gun firing, and (2) the two broken windows quite separate from one another. Yes, they could be explainable in some way, but still, how plausibly?

It's how suites work. It's one room.

But you can't shoot from two locations at once. I can say that I heard two distinct times where there were more than one machine gun and we sure have eye witness and Police scanner reports saying middle part of the building and not one of the top floors. Can't explain that away at the moment but we might be able to later.