Mutiple shooters confirmed by taxi driver footage WE are being lied too.1st 2 Mins vid

a reply to: flice

Exactly... none of this makes any sense what so ever...

If I put on my tinfoil hat, it is beginning to make sense to me in a twisted sort of way.

If you start with the CT basic, that they are only going to willing tell you what they want you to know. And, if something is outed that they don't want you to know, they will attempt to scientific talk you into proving you are a novice, a troll, or just a plain idiot.

They will then try to discredit all the outing sources, and if you persist, they will dismiss you as unpatriotic or a phobe of some variety.

I was very disturbed when I walked into the coffee shop and sat down to a group of folk I know well,, talking about the incident, and the consensus was, "you can't trust anyone, not even your next door neighbor that you may have known for 50 years". "You never know what is really in someone's heart, or when they will snap."

They have already done a great job of dividing us. The next logical step is getting us to distrust everyone. Friend, family, neighbor, they are all now suspect. Of, course the government loves us and wants to protect us, so we can always rely on them.

a reply to: MarioOnTheFly

Or firing positions. He had a large corner suit with windows on two sides of the building.

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: AnonymousTi

Tell me why, if there were two shooters, would the news would cover one up?
Why?

There could be a number of reasons why. Maybe they just don't got all the facts yet, could be some confusion since this is still very recent or it could be part of a much larger conspiracy. I haven't ruled out any of those yet, too early to say. The news is quite known for giving out false reports and covering things up. Pretty sure most would agree there. Usually there's money or power involved. People can be bribed or threatened to say things.

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: AnonymousTi

Tell me why, if there were two shooters, would the news cover one up?
Why?

A perfect example of the media doing just that is San Bernardino, 2 years ago in December. Scott Pelley talked to a lady on the phone who worked there and described 3 athletic males dressed in military garb enter and open fire.

Scott's reply? "Well the authorities have told us it was a man and his wife".

That sir, is the quality of "journalism" we are exposed to.

a reply to: iWontGiveUP

That doesn't even remotely answer the question as to why if there were multiple shooters the news is only reporting one. Why would the police lie to the news reporters? Why lie at all?

a reply to: NightSkyeB4Dawn

What if? Maybe What if...

Maybe it really was 2 ISIS dudes

And the gun dealer was the fall guy

A well known scheme used in the past

a reply to: Salander

Or the lady on the phone was confused?

originally posted by: iWontGiveUP
a reply to: NightSkyeB4Dawn

What if? Maybe What if...

Maybe it really was 2 ISIS dudes

And the gun dealer was the fall guy

A well known scheme used in the past

Not sure about ISIS but having a fall guy is nothing new. What could be worse is if he was filming it to sell as snuff porn to cover his gambling addiction. He was a sex offender after all(Edit: wait was he a sex offender? or is that a different Stephen Paddock), he could be into some really messed up stuff. Maybe he was compromised in some way.
*twilight zone music*
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a reply to: Sillyolme


She wasn't confused. She worked at the facility long enough to know that it had frequently (monthly?) been used for training purposes by the police, and had assumed the men she saw were on a training mission. Until they opened fire, and then she freaked out and locked herself in an upstairs office and called the cops.

Further, her general testimony was corroborated by another individual, not related, not working there, who saw 3 athletic men exit in a big hurry and leave in an SUV.

Scott Pelley and most of the other talking heads believe whatever an authority figure tells them.

Sounds to me like it could be 1 shooter maybe 2.Some shots are just louder.No way you can tell for sure.

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: iWontGiveUP

That doesn't even remotely answer the question as to why if there were multiple shooters the news is only reporting one. Why would the police lie to the news reporters? Why lie at all?

Because it all fits an agenda. It is part of the program, part of the plan.

News is not what it used to be. Once news was about presenting the facts. A good reporter avoided any personal attachment or commentary about what was reported. The editor was the one that made the decision about what ran and how it ran.

It quickly became obvious that people were more interested in the sensational than about Bob and Mary's kid winning a scholarship to some fancy Ivy league school, or old Bessie winning the blue ribbon at the State Fair for the third year in a row. So the sensational started pushing the mundane to the back pages.

Advertisement has always been the meat and potatoes of MSM. The more viewers you can claim the more money you can charge. It was just a matter of time before the MSM began to wag the dog. Now that the MSM is owned by just a handful of people with the primary goal of controlling us and our pocketbooks. What we are fed doesn't need to contain truth. It just needs to have what it takes to manipulate and control how we think and what we do.

Why would they lie? Because that is what they get paid to do.

I'm curious if we're going to see a body/autopsy for the shooter? Probably not open to the public. National Security ya know...

a reply to: Salander

a picture is leaked on 4chan seems to be confirmed dead shooter

originally posted by: Salander
I'm curious if we're going to see a body/autopsy for the shooter? Probably not open to the public. National Security ya know...

They are going to release those black boxes from 9-11 eventually right? I mean its only been 16 years, they gotta process it and stuff....

originally posted by: Gaspode
a reply to: bknapple32

No, it's not muzzle flash. You can see the same light in this video from a different angle. It continues to strobe or flash even when the gunfire stops.

pause @ 0:38

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: Salander

Or the lady on the phone was confused?

CT's have apparently never been involved in an emergent, breaking , chaotic scenario so they apparently have never experienced how multiple people could give different descriptions of exactly the same event..

a reply to: TheJesuit

Have you also considered this footage of what could be a possible second shooter in the crowd? The footage is within the 1st three seconds of the video, a security guard walks past a few moments later.

It has been discussed in this thread on page 4 discovered by user Larry L. The footage is only a few seconds but when slowed down it looks like he crouches and opens fire as we see flashing. He also looks similar to the security guy who walks past the shot a few moments later. There have been eye witnesses saying a security guard was killed by police in the hotel and the taxi driver also seems puzzled by a security guard's behaviour as she says, whats he doing? Another eye witness has said that a security guard was being chased by other guards in the same clothing.
link

This link has a second video from a car at the scene and witnesses talk of security guard involvement and multiple shooters.
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originally posted by: bknapple32
a reply to: Salander

a picture is leaked on 4chan seems to be confirmed dead shooter

Which board? A link would be useful as these things can quickly get pulled down.

If there were shooters on the ground, people would know

I'm convinced the shots came from an elevated position, near Mandalay

originally posted by: daftpink
a reply to: TheJesuit

Have you also considered this footage of what could be a possible second shooter in the crowd?

What part of the video? what's the time stamp of what you're referring to?