posted on Oct, 2 2017 @ 02:32 PM
creds, well I was a combat MP (gunner) and did a tour in Iraq. Does that mean I know everything, not a chance lol, but I do continue my marksmanship
passion as a civilian as a long range shooting competitor. here is my two cents...
The rate of fire doesn't matter much at this point - there are plenty of systems that can cycle that kinda brass in a hurry. and from the videos, I
have a few points on that. but first thing was that distance, hmmm.
from the 32nd floor (estimated saaaaay 320ft of elevation?) and from that corner of the hotel to reach out to the first dozen rows of concert goers in
front of main stage is roughly 400-500yds, just by dropping some pins on google maps. Secondly, you triangulate that, since he's 100yds up, that
changes the actual distance so he's a little bit further out as far as ballistics are concerned.
IF and I stress IF he was using AK platforms, (7.62x39) that's a pretty far clip to be pushing, especially into a crowd. you'll see a bullet drop
somewhere around 150 inches at 500yds, and velocity is probably well under 1000fps. this by no way suggest it can't be done, just not accurately. the
man was truly spraying into that crowd. and that round is a bone crusher and probably the round was tumbling at that distance. the terminal ballistics
were probably very very very ugly. I wouldn't expect to see any direct wounds on the news. it'd be ugly.
but to answer the question of the OP, yes, it's very easy to put that kinda of fire down, as many suggested our us army crew serves can go waaaay
above that, somewhere to 800+ rounds per minute.
Here is where it falls apart (for me anyway) is the sound. listening to various online videos of the incident, I couldn't help but recognize the rate
of fire and what we call 'talking guns'. You see, when firing as a squad, you provide 3-5 rd bursts. this is done to increase accuracy (muzzle rises
up and right on full auto) and secondly, to avoid over heating your barrel. So you overlap your fire. we call it talking guns because you'll hear a
'buuuuuuuuuuurrrp' of fire, then just before it ends, another gunner picks up the rate... buuuuuuuuuuup. and it just slightly overlaps, multiple
gunners, laying what seems like constant fire. if you're well trained as a squad, it's almost musical.
Now, listening to a few videos, I noticed a few instances of well overlapped automatic fire. I could be from the echos of those tall buildings - I
wouldn't rule that out, but just for a second there, it really sounds like two or three gunners, using automatic weapons, who have done this before.
no credit to this scumbag, but as one who appreciated the finer aspects of soldiering and being a gunner, the sound of well timed fire can be
beautiful. honestly, the fire seemed professional to me, just for those few seconds.
If the news comes out and says it was one guy with a hand full of semi automatic AKs and AR platforms, i'm calling BS. he had to have some serious
crew serves up there. something that was 7.62 but longer barreled, like a 240Bravo - you'd defiantly get accurate fire out of it.
but for now they are saying he wasn't a gun guy - not a hunter - just a normal old fella with no experience with firearms, wellll I dunno. while it
wouldn't be hard by any stretch of the imagination, this just doesn't seem to fit the bill.
I am eager to hear what weapon system he was using, how many total rounds fired, and maybe better topography of the scene - with all respects to the
victims and their families, I doubt we'll see pics of wounds, but I'm curious to where these people were hit.
all and all this whole thing seems sketchy. I don't like any of it. sooo many variables floating around - ISIS is claiming it, sources said his hotel
room is littered with Antifa propaganda - I don't believe any of it. the worst shooting in history will very well be the most shrouded in conspiracy
one as well.