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Active Shooter Las Vegas, Mandalay Bay

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posted on Oct, 2 2017 @ 02:14 PM
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originally posted by: Komodo

originally posted by: face23785

originally posted by: Komodo

originally posted by: WhyDidIJoin
a reply to: DrStevenBrule

Does anybody hear two separate guns shooting at the same time in this video near the end?

twitter.com...

Videos on twitter.


I didn't look at that video but on the live link there are definitely are at least 2 ...!

Also, with unsurpressed auto weapons which are close, 100ft +/-50....



There's not sounds of 2 guns firing at the same time.


BS THERE NOT!!

I originally said that it might be echoes that were heard, but listening again... it sounds like the cyclic rate is different between the two different sets of sounds. That would indicate two different weapons.




posted on Oct, 2 2017 @ 02:14 PM
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a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

This is crazy, something ain't right.



posted on Oct, 2 2017 @ 02:14 PM
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originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

originally posted by: Konduit
Found this at the NASA website.

Steve Paddock, Goddard Space Flight Center, Greenbelt, Md.



So there's the NASA connection to go with the pink NASA shirt. His Lockheed Martin background and pilots license had his smelling like an aeronautics kind of dude.

Now watch we find out he participated in some DARPA cognitive mental something or other study at some point...



American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics (AIAA) Space Operations & Support Technical Committee
(SOSTC) Members’ Guidebook 2014-2015

SOS Subcommittee Activities
The Space Operations subcommittee held its first me
eting on June 6, 1985 in the Grumman
office in Nassau Bay, Texas. An official title was
selected, "Space Operations and Support
(SOS)" subcommittee, objectives were defined, and a
timetable was developed to spin off the
new official TC in July 1986.
The second SOS subcommittee meeting was held Septem
ber 19, 1985 at the University of
Washington in Seattle. Steve Paddock agreed to serv
e as subcommittee secretary, and the
following agreed to serve: Art Stephenson on Member
ship, Jim Williams on Standards, Dick
Edwards on Conferences/ Seminars, and Dennis Granat
o on Congressional Testimony.

...

Chair
Manning Dandridge
Grumman
Vice Chair
Lt. Col. Eric Nelson
USAF
Secretary
Stephen Paddock
McDonnell Douglas
Membership
Art Stephenson
TRW
Publications
Thomas Crabb
Aerospace Corp of America
Standards
James Williams
LTV
Conferences/
Seminars
Richard Edwards
Rockwell
Education
James Steincamp
NASA/MSFC
Awards
Nancy Tamburello
Martin Marietta
...
2913
Orbital Express Flight Operations Team
Defense
Advanced Research
Projects Agency (DARPA)


info.aiaa.org...
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posted on Oct, 2 2017 @ 02:14 PM
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a reply to: IAMTAT

If they need a room, pm me.



posted on Oct, 2 2017 @ 02:14 PM
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originally posted by: Komodo

originally posted by: GuidedKill
a reply to: Komodo

yes

no active shooter now



Wait- shooter...what about the other (s)?!


The other shooter was OJ. Tony Stewart was the getaway driver.



posted on Oct, 2 2017 @ 02:15 PM
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originally posted by: face23785

originally posted by: IAMTAT
Just heard one of my daughter's girlfriends was at the concert last night with her boyfriend.
She is okay, but her BF is still missing.


Sorry to hear that, hope he's ok.


Hopefully he's okay in one of the hospitals.



posted on Oct, 2 2017 @ 02:15 PM
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Very true. Thats the answer/problem to not all but alot of this. A person for whatever reason decides to do this, how do you stop it? The instance, you cant. Otherwisw there was a reason the wild west had order.....it works, just nasty to start. Now here would that have helped? who knowa, the guy muttering, hiding, etc, no wrong, the guy walking past and hearing auto fire, maybe, see where im going? an armerd place is NICE PLACE
a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan



posted on Oct, 2 2017 @ 02:15 PM
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originally posted by: zazzafrazz
a reply to: IAMTAT

If they need a room, pm me.

Thanks, Zazz.



posted on Oct, 2 2017 @ 02:16 PM
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a reply to: Dragoon01

Thanks for the detailed response. Your point is though that there is no proof of auto weapons and then you say this:




That distance is about 300 yards from what they say on the TV. I can confirm that more or less as I have been through that area on a couple of occasions. At 300 yards the potential rifles he could have used (an AR or AK) are still going to be traveling between 2500 and 3000 feet per second.


Aren't they automatic weapons?



posted on Oct, 2 2017 @ 02:16 PM
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originally posted by: butcherguy

originally posted by: Komodo

originally posted by: face23785

originally posted by: Komodo

originally posted by: WhyDidIJoin
a reply to: DrStevenBrule

Does anybody hear two separate guns shooting at the same time in this video near the end?

twitter.com...

Videos on twitter.


I didn't look at that video but on the live link there are definitely are at least 2 ...!

Also, with unsurpressed auto weapons which are close, 100ft +/-50....



There's not sounds of 2 guns firing at the same time.


BS THERE NOT!!

I originally said that it might be echoes that were heard, but listening again... it sounds like the cyclic rate is different between the two different sets of sounds. That would indicate two different weapons.


Hopefully the technology is better now than it was in the 1960s when there were two Shooters involved with John F Kennedy.



posted on Oct, 2 2017 @ 02:16 PM
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originally posted by: butcherguy

originally posted by: Komodo

originally posted by: face23785

originally posted by: Komodo

originally posted by: WhyDidIJoin
a reply to: DrStevenBrule

Does anybody hear two separate guns shooting at the same time in this video near the end?

twitter.com...

Videos on twitter.


I didn't look at that video but on the live link there are definitely are at least 2 ...!

Also, with unsurpressed auto weapons which are close, 100ft +/-50....



There's not sounds of 2 guns firing at the same time.


BS THERE NOT!!

I originally said that it might be echoes that were heard, but listening again... it sounds like the cyclic rate is different between the two different sets of sounds. That would indicate two different weapons.


Multiple echoes and re-echoes from various distances, and by extension different rates?

ETA:

Like I said, I have been in a large city with a single, fully-automatic weapon being repeatedly shot, both near and at a distance.
edit on 2-10-2017 by Liquesence because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 2 2017 @ 02:16 PM
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Anyone that can log into LinkedIn should check it for "Steve Paddock". Call it a hunch.



posted on Oct, 2 2017 @ 02:16 PM
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originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: soberbacchus

I see one of two possible motives:

Someone wanted to instill terror (ISIS et al)



Terror needs credit. Orlando shooter rambled on phone about ISIS to Police etc.

Nothing in this guys home(s)...no note..no friends..no one saying anything about him even being religious at all.

This attack would not serve any cause without credit.



or

Someone had a political agenda and needed a disaster to push it.

If it's the latter, their true motive will be uncovered soon through the MSM response to this.

TheRedneck


I don't get that? You will decide if this is political dependent on what w/r to MSM?



posted on Oct, 2 2017 @ 02:17 PM
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a reply to: butcherguy

Exactly what I'm hearing!!



posted on Oct, 2 2017 @ 02:17 PM
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a reply to: Jonjonj

No. I own an AR, it is semi-auto.

Edit: Ruger AR-556 for anyone interested. And for anyone who gets their gun info from the media, no that doesn't mean it's 37 times deadlier than an AR-15.
edit on 2 10 17 by face23785 because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 2 2017 @ 02:17 PM
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a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

Could it really be him?



posted on Oct, 2 2017 @ 02:17 PM
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originally posted by: Jonjonj
a reply to: Dragoon01

Thanks for the detailed response. Your point is though that there is no proof of auto weapons and then you say this:




That distance is about 300 yards from what they say on the TV. I can confirm that more or less as I have been through that area on a couple of occasions. At 300 yards the potential rifles he could have used (an AR or AK) are still going to be traveling between 2500 and 3000 feet per second.


Aren't they automatic weapons?



No they are not automatic weapons....99.9% in public hands are all semi auto.



posted on Oct, 2 2017 @ 02:18 PM
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a reply to: GuidedKill

I would argue that it's pretty easy to rule out a second shooter. Early reports had shots fired at a number of other casinos. Most of these can be ruled out because they didn't have a view of the venue and there were no casualties at outside them. In fact we're really only left with three potential options. Mandalay Bay, the Luxor, and the Tropicana. Out of these options the only casino with broken out windows is Mandalay Bay.

So if there was a second shooter it would have to be in the same room as Braddock. But even this doesn't make a lot of sense. If Braddock was working with someone I can't imagine he would just let him slip away while he took the rap. So then we're left with a second shooter that was able to stage Braddock's suicide and sneak out in a very limited amount of time. That just doesn't sound feasible.



posted on Oct, 2 2017 @ 02:19 PM
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originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

originally posted by: Konduit
Found this at the NASA website.

Steve Paddock, Goddard Space Flight Center, Greenbelt, Md.



So there's the NASA connection to go with the pink NASA shirt. His Lockheed Martin background and pilots license had his smelling like an aeronautics kind of dude.

Now watch we find out he participated in some DARPA cognitive mental something or other study at some point...


Yeah.. Im starting to think that either he was a programmed sleeper that either was given instructions, or just plain snapped. Darpa/ mkultra / intelligence asset. His background lends some support to this. Could also be an intelligence asset that was leaned on to carry out an attack (agenda unknown at this point)

Or maybe he just went off the rails. Hard to say yet. Being in Vegas, there might be an organized crime angle as well.
edit on 2-10-2017 by pirhanna because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 2 2017 @ 02:19 PM
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a reply to: Xcalibur254

No I'm with you this could have and probably was done by a lone gunmen...I was just trying to be objective to possibility of a second shooter.



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